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Desert Eagle 10mm? Do what now??
I got this full size Desert Eagle 10 mm Im pretty happy with.
I do got the 10 mm love baby! And I love 1911s! Not since the long lost Delta Elite have I been so happy! If 10mm pistols are good enough for Sonny Crocket well by gosh its good enough for me I reckon  Go get you one. Go on get now ya hear! Before they are all dried up and gone bye bye.
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I'd love a 10mm, but I have 0 ammo and the prospects of building a stockpile are pretty poor.
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I do love the HAND CANNON! So here we have another one of those illustrious hand cannons! The 10 mm auto. I do love the 44 magnum however good luck tryin to get your little booger pickers on one of those new Colt Anacondas right now unless you want to put down a house mortgage payment for one... Also I havent seen any new Ruger 44 mags around lately for some strange goofy reason. Redhawks where are you? Whats up wit dat Ruger?? Eh whatever... I can launch a whole mag worth of 10mm auto down range accurately and quickly on target faster than you can say, "Sonny Crocket you are my most favorite TV land hero!" Meanwhile Mr. Hand Pain 44 carpal tunnel special is still takin its time revolving till the cows come home! Anyways here is the specifications on the new Desert Eagle 10 mm:
Detailed Description: MANUFACTURER: Magnum Research
FAMILY: 1911 Style Pistol Series
MODEL: Desert Eagle 1911
TYPE: Semi-Auto Pistol
ACTION: Single Action
CALIBER/GAUGE: 10mm
FINISH: Matte Black
FINISH TYPE: Black
FRAME: Steel Frame
STOCK/GRIPS: G10 Black/Grey
BARREL: 5.01"
OVERALL LENGTH: 8.63"
CAPACITY: 8 + 1
# OF MAGAZINES: 2
MAG DESCRIPTION: 8 rd.
WEIGHT: 36.2 oz.
SHIPPING WEIGHT: 4.8 lbs.
SAFETY FEATURES: Extended Thumb Safety
ADDL INFO: Skeletonized Hammer
ADDL INFO: Extended Mag Release
ADDL INFO: Stainless Frame/Black Slide
I do really like the 5 inch bull barrel on the 1911. I havent seen that since the ole Detonics ScoreMaster of the 80s! I like it a lot! Did I mention the Israelis make a fine handgun yet? This gun is manufactured by Bul LTD. They are famous for there superbly built 1911s. From what I see the work on these Magnum Research guns look better to me than any of my Colt made 1911s. Im not the type to BS so just my honest opinion! Maybe its a good thing Colt is taken over by CZ. You know CZ!!! A company that can actually make good quality instead of over priced over hyped junk. More to come with this little 10mm jewel!
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Eh... like everything that bull honky ammo shortage will end. All the weirdos will stop goin bonkers for coco puffs buying ammo because they watched to much Walking Dead and it will eventually normalize again. Like always just sit tight!
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Eh... like everything that bull honky ammo shortage will end. All the weirdos will stop goin bonkers for coco puffs buying ammo because they watched to much Walking Dead and it will eventually normalize again. Like always just sit tight!
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I guess all this .357M, .44M, .45ACP, .40S&W, and .357SIG will have to keep me happy.
I also want a 9x25 Dillon (probably a spare barrel with the 10mm) but that's also a tough deal right now.
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The 10mm 1911 has recently got my attention; or should I say the magazine article(s) about the Kimber Black Ice Rapide (or something like that.) About $1700. I believe S&W manufacture some, among other firearm makers. I have heard that CZ make an excellent product. So, I'm asking you, dandyrandy, are the prices vs. actual quality along the same lines as some of the other manufacturers? (I don't know, so I ask!) Not long ago was the article/assessment of the 10mm in American Rifleman, I asked about it on Forum and was kinda informed, respectably, that there are other manufacturers out there, like S&W, etc. I don't hunt anymore or hike in grizzly country, I don't shoot for scores vs other people, I would just like a nice quality 1911, but not enough to spend too much over $2G. I've been interested in the 10mm, like I said, so could you give me an idea of what $$$ I'm looking at? I want a keeper, not like the $400 ATI I gave to my son. Which, by the way, was a darn good shooter at the range and never gave me any clicks instead of bangs. I'm having a hard time trying to explain what I want, but your post gave me reason to ask you. Thanks a lot for any advice, or anybody else who can help me decide what to shoot for. Jeff T., PGH
10mm or .40 calibers
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Ive seen them go for between $700 to $1200 however they dont seem to stay in stock very long. The Magnum Research 1911s are about priced the same as the Ruger, Colts, and SA 1911s. About the same category however the build quality looks a little better on the MR than compared to the others mentioned.
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I once owned a custom Desert Eagle in 44 mag. That pistol is definitely a hand full! I sold it tho to a happy new owner!
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I repeatedly considered getting a 10mm 1911 of some fashion, but prices on them were absurdly expensive and full-power ammo was only available from boutique loaders. I considered alternatives, but there were none that I really liked.
Eventually I discovered the H&K USP45 Elite, which is capable of shooting both .45 ACP and .45 Super sans modifications, so that's ultimately what I chose to scratch my itch for a powerful semiautomatic pistol.
.45 Super is roughly equivalent to 10mm Auto in terms of ballistics performance when comparing similar loads, but the bullets are obviously larger in diameter, (which is a plus for me) and thus the operational pressure is substantially lower at 28,000psi.
The USP45 Elite is a massive gun of extremely robust design, plus it has some serious style, with an appearance which blends the aesthetics of early 1900s pistol designs with the ruggedness and reliability of more modern designs.
Sorry to crash this 10mm party with a .45, but I don't get many opportunities to talk about it otherwise, and .45 Super is basically the 11mm equivalent of 10mm Auto.
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Jeff- the Springfield Ronin in 10mmlooks like a nice gun but are apparently unobtanium right now (like a lot of guns). I have an RIA in 10mm that is a nice gun and didn't break the bank when I bought it. The 10 is a great round IMHO.
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I have a Desert Eagle in 10mm, no wait, a DOUBLE Eagle in 10mm. Colt. Heh heh. My bad.
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"SHIPPING WEIGHT: 4.8 lbs."
Really? That's one heavy pistol.
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I don't have a 10mm but that's one of the very few calibers I have actually seen in stores. Couldn't tell you how much because I didn't look since I wasn't in the market for it.
The 10mm is a very serious caliber!
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Waiting on a SA Ronin to appear somewhere. A lot of gun for the money. Purty too.
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Some of these Magnum Research pistols ship with extra added accessories in a bigger box. I have one that came with a large Magnum Research knife with extra grips magazines and a nice good quality heavy made sheath. Something the other manufactures sadly dont do much any more. Your lucky to just get two magazines now a days with your purchase.
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pix187455693 by Dandy Randy, on Flickr
You get a knife in some of these purchased MA 1911s. You can put 1911 grips on the knife too and customize it however you want. Im not a big knife guy but this is one of the coolest nicest quality knives I ever seen.
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I repeatedly considered getting a 10mm 1911 of some fashion, but prices on them were absurdly expensive and full-power ammo was only available from boutique loaders.
.45 Super is roughly equivalent to 10mm Auto in terms of ballistics performance when comparing similar loads, but the bullets are obviously larger in diameter, which is a plus for me.

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That looks like you didn't get away from boutique ammo to me.
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Ventilate something , punch holes in paper , kill a tin can or a water filled milk jug ... Times awasting !
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Yeah, but I would have to buy it either way if I wanted full-power ammo, and .45 Super is more available because it's less popular.
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I have a Desert Eagle in 10mm, no wait, a DOUBLE Eagle in 10mm. Colt. Heh heh. My bad.
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Funny, My eye initially read the title as Double Eagle as well
I have many 10MM Auto firearms in addition to my Double Eagle. Only a few of them are the 1911 platform
I built one of my favorites about 4 summers ago
Longer barrels produce exceptional increases in performance, so I am fond of long slides
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To the OP, I want the top one in your picture, what are the specs on that one? What model is it?
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Funny, My eye initially read the title as Double Eagle as well
I have many 10MM Auto firearms in addition to my Double Eagle. Only a few of them are the 1911 platform
I built one of my favorites about 4 summers ago
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Your the first one I've heard of other than me who has a Double Eagle in 10mm. Any idea how many was made?
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Your the first one I've heard of other than me who has a Double Eagle in 10mm. Any idea how many was made?
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OP sorry for the thread drift
I have a Double Eagle First Edition in 10MM Auto
I actually bought 3 of the First Editions for me and my family members. A buddy of mine was the main distributor for them so I picked my serial numbers . . . 737, 747 and 757.
To COLT, the First Edition is the first 1000 pieces. First Editions are roll-marked differently and came in a soft case with 3 mags, holster and a mag pouch.
I have no clue beyond the first one thousand. You have more knowledge than I on that issue, since these were started on the DT serial number prefix, what number is your gun?
I also have a 45ACP Double Eagle LW Officers that I carried in an ankle rig for quite some time.
My stainless Double Eagle Office 45 was stolen with my suburban back in 96
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OP sorry for the thread drift
I have a Double Eagle First Edition in 10MM Auto
I actually bought 3 of the First Editions for me and my family members. A buddy of mine was the main distributor for them so I picked my serial numbers . . . 737, 747 and 757.
To COLT, the First Edition is the first 1000 pieces. First Editions are roll-marked differently and came in a soft case with 3 mags, holster and a mag pouch.
I have no clue beyond the first one thousand. You have more knowledge than I on that issue, since these were started on the DT serial number prefix, what number is your gun?
I also have a 45ACP Double Eagle LW Officers that I carried in an ankle rig for quite some time.
My stainless Double Eagle Office 45 was stolen with my suburban back in 96
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It starts with DTO(letter O) 4[zero]XXX, so DTO40.... stamped dot-matrix. I initially though there were no first editions on the 10mm and it came out after the 45 was upgraded. Been a lot of confusion on this subject and I never got any clear answers.
I bought it as clamed to be unfired second hand without a box and I think only one mag. I had plenty of 1911 10mm mags so it wasn't a big deal. Bought it in '95 for $600 IIRC.
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I believe your referring to the 45 acp version of the same 10 mm 1911. Its the same specs as a Government model however it has a steel guide rod and front strap checkering. I have both models and all of the are some if not the best 1911s for the price. I also have the Commander version too which has a bull barrel.
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In all honesty, the first time that I ever heard of the "Desert Eagle 1911" I assumed that it was going to be a massive 1911 like the old LAR Grizzly Mark V chambered in .50AE or at least a Desert Eagle that took styling cues from the 1911. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of folks were thinking the same thing. Instead, it's just another 1911, which is fine, but the Desert Eagle moniker does nothing for it and just makes it sound like something that it's not.
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In all honesty, the first time that I ever heard of the "Desert Eagle 1911" I assumed that it was going to be a massive 1911 like the old LAR Grizzly Mark V chambered in .50AE or at least a Desert Eagle that took styling cues from the 1911. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of folks were thinking the same thing. Instead, it's just another 1911, which is fine, but the Desert Eagle moniker does nothing for it and just makes it sound like something that it's not.
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If all I saw was the photos my first reaction would have been Kimber. And, as long as it doesn't have that ugly external extractor I'll call it a 1911.
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It could have been one of the Grizzly Mark I Long Slides, though they were chambered for the measly little 45 Winchester Magnum.
10 1/2" of barrel
While LAR did make a 10MM Auto conversion for the standard Grizzlies (along with several other calibers), I have never seen one for the Long Slide.
The only other barrel that I have ever seen for the Long Slide is chambered for the 357/45 GWM cartridge
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In all honesty, the first time that I ever heard of the "Desert Eagle 1911" I assumed that it was going to be a massive 1911 like the old LAR Grizzly Mark V chambered in .50AE or at least a Desert Eagle that took styling cues from the 1911. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of folks were thinking the same thing. Instead, it's just another 1911, which is fine, but the Desert Eagle moniker does nothing for it and just makes it sound like something that it's not.
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I believe they have changed the name to the Magnum Research 1911 however my 10mm says Desert Eagle on it and so does some of my 45 1911s. The name Desert Eagle actually refers to there many semi auto pistols however the 50 AE semi auto is what comes to mind for everyone. I also had a little tiny Desert Eagle pocket rocket in 380 acp. I would love to have another one of those that was a great little 380 auto! I have to admit I have never had a bad firearm from Magnum Research ever!
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It's a shame that LAR isn't around anymore and that nobody ever picked up the Grizzly 1911s, I'd like to think that they could sell as long as they were offered by a company who also sold ordinary pistols, so they weren't reliant solely on the sales of magnum pistols to remain financially stable.
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I'm used to Magnum Research using the "Desert Eagle" name to sell other pistols, but at least the Jericho (a.k.a. the Mini Desert Eagle) shares aesthetic similarities to the Desert Eagle and the Micro Desert Eagle took some styling cues from it as well, whereas the Desert Eagle 1911s just look like so many other 1911s on the market, namely the Kimber Raptor and Taurus PT1911.
That being said, the fact that they've dropped "Desert Eagle" from their line of 1911s shows that it really wasn't doing anything for the marketability of their 1911s.
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It's a shame that LAR isn't around anymore and that nobody ever picked up the Grizzly 1911s, I'd like to think that they could sell as long as they were offered by a company who also sold ordinary pistols, so they weren't reliant solely on the sales of magnum pistols to remain financially stable.
@dandyrandy
I'm used to Magnum Research using the "Desert Eagle" name to sell other pistols, but at least the Jericho (a.k.a. the Mini Desert Eagle) shares aesthetic similarities to the Desert Eagle and the Micro Desert Eagle took some styling cues from it as well, whereas the Desert Eagle 1911s just look like so many other 1911s on the market, namely the Kimber Raptor and Taurus PT1911.
That being said, the fact that they've dropped "Desert Eagle" from their line of 1911s shows that it really wasn't doing anything for the marketability of their 1911s.
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Ya LAR Grizzly needs to make a come back however in the mean time there is the 460 Rowland conversion. I like that better because you can take any good quality 1911 and shoot 45, 45 super, or 460 Rowland out of it. Its what i use when I have to hunt tyrannosaurs in the bush. I would like to do a review on that too just some much stuff I want to cover for ya'll. Like I want this good info to get out there on this firearms stuff!
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My issue with .460 Rowland conversions is that they call for a fixed compensator. How exactly are you supposed to break down your 1911 for cleaning if the compensator is fixed in place on the end of the barrel?
Furthermore, I find it difficult to believe that all it takes to make an ordinary 1911 that was designed for .45 ACP which operates at a mere 21,000-23,000psi capable of safely and reliably handle .460 Rowland which operates at 40,000psi is some heavier springs and a compensator.
Granted they've been around for a very long time, but how hard has anybody actually run a 1911 with a .460 Rowland conversion? How many rounds has anyone put through one of them?
I know that they're probably perfectly safe and all, but it's just not for me... I'm not into converting firearms to handle more powerful cartridges than they were designed to shoot, hence why I opted for an H&K USP45 Elite to shoot .45 Super as opposed to converting a 1911 or some other .45 ACP pistol. (Although I would be far more comfortable converting a .45 ACP to fire .45 Super since the pressure difference is much closer between the two.)
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Ya LAR Grizzly needs to make a come back
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Not going to happen
LAR licensed the Grizzly design from the patent holder, Perry Arnett. LAR's founder did a few modifications/improvements
Perry Arnett only lived about 30 minutes South of me
When Clinton was going after all the manufacturers with threats of prosecution, LAR agreed to never make another Grizzly pistol in exchange for immunity from prosecution. As we all know now, there never was any prosecution
Perry could not produce the pistols because he did not own the rights.
Perry has since passed away. The family is probably the current owner of the design. I suppose someone could try and buy the rights
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It could have been one of the Grizzly Mark I Long Slides, though they were chambered for the measly little 45 Winchester Magnum.
10 1/2" of barrel
While LAR did make a 10MM Auto conversion for the standard Grizzlies (along with several other calibers), I have never seen one for the Long Slide.
The only other barrel that I have ever seen for the Long Slide is chambered for the 357/45 GWM cartridge
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“the measly little 45 Winchester Magnum”
And since we’re thread drifting within the 10 mm auto (I didn’t put the G20)
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the Desert Eagle moniker does nothing for it and just makes it sound like something that it's not.
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At one time I had a Magnum Research Mountain Eagle .
Whoooe , what junk.
On my list of "worst ever".
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I had to Google what a Magnum Research Mountain Eagle was because I'd never heard of one before, and that is without a doubt the absolute junkiest-looking .22 Target Pistol that I've ever seen in my entire life.
I have literally NEVER used this statement before because it has always struck me as immature, condescending, and ignorant, but here it is quite an apt statement; That thing looks like a toy.
Seriously, it doesn't look like a real Target Pistol, it looks like a cheap plastic toy version of a Target Pistol designed by someone who has even never owned one and is just making one based off of a foggy memory of Target Pistols he had seen in fliers for sporting goods store. Good grief, it that thing terrible-looking. Wow!
If anyone here owns one, loves it, and actually feels that it's a good Target Pistol, then I beg your pardon, but I'm stunned by just how cheap it looks.
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Someday in the future- not now. I hope to be able to shop for an S&W FBI (or Treasury) Model 1076 again.
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what to do next?
Take it apart and check out the AR type bolt they use!
Very different and very cool!
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