Beretta is apparently responsible for making the Manurhin revolver. And they are going to sell them here.


Holy Toledo. That's some gun. I think it's worth the price. You can pay three times more for a Rolex and a revolver is worth more in a fight.

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I want one!

Interesting that the French chose a revolver over a semi for their elite anti terrorist unit. I wonder what their reasoning was...

More here: The Manurhin MR73 Revolver - Fighting Wheel Gun Par Excellen

Manurhin, now owned by Chapuis Armes, is the manufacturer. Beretta is just starting to import them now. Here's a previous thread I made on this development - these things look awesome to say the very least. While I hope that street price is a little lower than MSRP, they do seem to be well worth the cost.

That's a lot of cheddar.

I'm hemming and hawing over a used 3rd gen .40 that's like 1/7 the price LOL

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I purchased a Manurhin model 73 .357match version. The trigger pull is adjustable with a screw in the front of the grip, the hammer is adjustable with another screw in the front of the grip. The gun uses S&W K frame speed loaders and as designed is supposed to stand up to 150,000 full house .357 loads.

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They didn‘t just choose a revolver, the founder and first commander of the GIGN, Capt. Christian Prouteau, was directly involved in the development of the MR73.

A lot has to do with the specific philosophy of their approach, which aims to reduce the danger of collateral damage by achieving maximum effect with a minimum number of rounds fired.

So a highly effective round and maximum precision. GIGN troopers have used their MR73s occasionally single-action as short-range “sniper rifles”.

Remember the 2019 Miramar shootout where a dozen officers just emptied their guns into the hijacked UPS truck, killing not just the bad guys but also the hostage and a bystander down the road? The GIGN has been very successful applying the exact OPPOSITE approach.

There’s much to be admired in folks that can hit what they’re shooting at so they don’t need to touch off 17+ rounds to just get started!

I think that this revolver will be a big success in the high end collector market. Beretta has recently purchased Holland and Holland. Why not have a super high end revolver to show in the same showrooms?

Only the Korth will compete for the same customers.

I can see this one guy's head exploding on the old, now defunct Kansas forum when or if he reads that. He was a devotee of striker-fired pistols in 9mm.

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I always liked the old Civil War Veteran's stories of the major battles and them saying “I could have held up my cap and caught it full of lead.”

I think the 17 round magazines are the modern equivalent—get enough lead in the air, you are bound to hit something! Perhaps what you are shooting at may run in front of one of the rounds by accident!

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Beretta has nothing to do with making those

CHAPUIS ARMS has manufactured the Manurhin guns for 20 years, Beretta bought CHAPUIS ARMS and will now distribute not only Manurchin handguns but also rifles and shoguns made in limited numbers by CHAPUIS ARMS.
The production of Manurhin has been limited to 400 per year.
Beretta produces some low production models of shotguns and I hope they use their knowledge in managing Holland&Holland and Manurhin.

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While I like the MR73 Revolver, it's waaay out of my price-range, and if I were going to splurge on a high quality revolver, then it's going to be a S&W Performance Center.

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It was because Raymond Sasia who was training in the FBI and he learned the techniques and philosophy of handgun combat of America law forces of that age.

He (Raymond Sasia) used to like the model 19 smith and wesson as law enforcement side arm.

Forgive my bad English

I was not able to open the link in the post I quoted before, but I think it is the same I was read about Raymond Sasia i talked about.

Your English & grammar is better than a lot of English-speaking people who post on forums! Don't worry about it. You're good!

I'd really like to handle one of these revolvers fresh out of the box to see what makes it worth MSRP of $3300, as seen in May '21 issue of Shooting Illustrated, p. 68. Also two guns above that one is a $5300 Korth that is just plain ugly, IMO. I will say that Manhurin R73 is a nice-looking gun, and I would hope it shoots as good as it looks, but that's a lot of green! I have to agree with Forte Smitten Wesson on this one.

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Some time ago I saw a video about the disassembly of a Manurhin like MR73, and since then I Thought the Manurhin MR73 is an improved Model 19 Smith & Wesson (the favorite handgun of Raymond Sasia)

The video is in Spanish lenguage (it was made in Spain), but if you see the images you can see all the internal parts was inspired in Smith & Wesson revolver with some minor changes.

Maybe S&W for some dollars more could produce a improved version of one of its revolvers and could compete with the Manurhin MR73 in endurance and crafsmanship.


The revolver in the video has a not factory sights, and it is not a .357 Magnum (it is a .32), but it is like a MR73 in all the others aspects.

There is another video about the same revolver assembley of the same author.

I hope it is not against the forum rules link videos.

Basically a super high end copy of a vintage S&W that is built to tight spec's by craftsmen that care. It's a shame they get to beat S&W at their own game!

The second part of the video, it is more notorius the funtions of internal parts is basically the same as the smith & wesson´s:


I am sorry I can´t find a similar video in English

Very nice, but above my pay grade. MHO? For those who can afford them, they'll be safe queens. Will they be fired much, if at all? Will anyone run a Manurhin hard enough to take advantage of their superior construction? Doubtful.

That they are marketing them over here. The video explains it as this is the first I've heard of a Manhurin.

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Manurhin revolvers are awesome. Would love to own one. A lot of talk about these revolvers lately that have been around since the 70s.

Additional Pictures of Manurchin MR73

The special run of S&W revolvers that were made for GIGN when Raymond Sassia was head of procurement was a three inch fixed sighted model 19-3.




The presumption that each and any owner of Korths and MR73 is a lame collector and not an avid shooter and reloader and keeps the guns in the safe is as wrong as presuming that no Porsche driver will go over 2,500 rpm.

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Post 17 shows the finish of the innards of the MR73.

Here is a Ratzeburg Korth:


and here a later MIM S&W 64

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Some months ago I´ve seen videos in Youtube where there are Surplus Manurhin MR73 for sale. Some in bad shape but others in a more or less good shape being selling at about 500 or 600 dollars. Maybe a littel expensive for a police trade surplus gun, but cheap for being a Manurhin.

If I would live in USA maybe I would buy one of this surplus Mr73 and spend a little more money in a gunsmith for its restoaraion. If it were in good mechanical contidtion maybe only refinish it and a new grips.

There is a video of a man with te nick "Bobby Cee" who has a customizes surplus MR73. It was a intensive restoaration and customization. Maybe a little expensive for I Would had done it in his place. But it is a good example of an alternative to buy one of this really expensive new Bereta /Manurhin MR73

The problem is finding one in the USA, even used, for a significantly lower price.

I will be watching a nice one coming up in a couple of days to see what it goes for.

I suspect it will, after all cost are added up, approach the price Beretta has listed. It is said to be in excellent condition.

I think so too. The pics before and after of the revolver changes is in another forum so I wont lnik it here.

I would do it different, only a new finish and new grips, maybe the sights. But bobbed and made an slab side in the barrel I wouldn´t do it.

A small batch was offered up on Aimsurplus. They went in under 30 minutes.

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While the MR73 is still official dress uniform for the GIGN, it seems like they haven't really used them "in anger" for about the last 20 years.
The sniper version was a 8" gun with a custom bipod mount invented by the GIGN.
They are selling for about $3400 on funbroker and the like with new guns and used guns fetching pretty similar prices lately.

I've had the opportunity to try one during my ISSC(then UIT or ISU in english)and found it to be an extremely well built gun.I'd say the frame is slightly smaller than a K frame but the balance quite similar.The rear sight is better than the stock model 14 sight .So is the stock trigger.
But after analysing the pros and cons of getting one,I got to the conclusion that for the money put on the MR,I could get a 6''model 14,smooth the trigger a bit,put on a Belhert rear sight and a Morini target grip.The operation would leave me with a gun that was as well balanced for me and a few hundred $$$ to let me buy some powder and primers for more practice.Which I did and didn't regret it.

This really stinks

It gives the Anti’s in New Jersey grounds for designating my .357 Magnum an “Assault Revolver” that must be banned in the next round of gun control legislation

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Apparently one thing that's become a real problem for shooting youth in the under 21 age range in swaths of the country is when somebody makes a .223, .22Magnum, .410, or whatever pistol then whatever it shoots is now "pistol ammunition" and they can't buy it anymore.

I think it is the opposite: It is a little larger than a K frame S&W but saller than a L frame.
The messurements of the cylinders are the K frame 36 mm, the MR73 38 mm and the L frame 39.5 mm.

But the manurhin is a little lighter in weight 33.5 ounces against 36 ounces og the model 19 when both are 4 inches barrel.

I’m very happy with my colt, s&w and ruger revolvers I’m not ready to jump ship into any expensive revolvers. I don’t buy expensive 1911’s too.

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That is indeed true. Most noticeable is that the crane of the MR73 is wider and has a different way to fit and lock up.

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At the club every spring we shoot a double action revolver league. I use a different revolver each week, most use one gun. Used the Manurhin twice, shot better scores with it. The double action pull is nice, very smooth & light. I left the adjustment alone where the previous owner had it. The trigger is adjustable with a screw driver and a hex wrench, easy.

The Manurhin was available from a couple sources before Beretta. Actually owned 2 at one time, sold the 4” target after winning the 6”.

If you are thinning the heard/downsizing and don’t want to give the money to the wife, buy a Manurhin. Have been selling a bunch of my guns I never use and buying higher end to replace them. Love quality.

Wish I could understand the videos, lot of great info for sure. Larry

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IIRC some of the SEAL Teams used S&W Model 66s back in the day.....

Guy who commanded the Navy's Red Team (later wrote a book) made the choice.

And they (SEAL) used also models 686 S&W, did they?

The GSG9 team that freed the German hostages on the Landshut airplane successfully also used revolvers. Actually, they used a S&W snubnose and when the terrorist did not drop after he got shot, he got shot with a subgun.

That worked miracles.

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I am not familiar with this gun, but anyone who has handled a lot of handguns will instantly see the ergonomics, craftsmanship, and have a 'sense' of how this target revolver will shoot. My gut feeling is an up-sell Model 14 in feel, with a dash of Model 27.

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The commander, Wegener, used a 4-inch Model 19, to take out at least one terrorist. The other guns used within the plane were a mix of .38 Spl. S&W snubbies and HK P9S, although the few published photos taken during the operation show only the P9S.






They did not perform up to expectations with the first-generation Geco BAT ammo. So afterwards from the late 1970s through the 1980s the S&W Model 19 with 2.5-inch barrel became the standard sidearm of the GSG 9, until replaced first by the HK P7 and then the Glock.

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I bought a new one made by Chappuis Armes back in 2009 (and made in 2007). Price was 2000 Swiss francs, which was the same in US dollars. Today’s price in Switzerland in $ 3000.

They are beautiful guns with an amazing blueing. Trigger is great, accuracy is excellent. A true collector and shooter.

I had a shooting buddy who was in the GSG9 recue team in Mogadishu. He also owned an MR32 and won a few state championships with it.

His name is on many SIG Sauer test targets, he was one of the guys test firing them in Eckernförde.

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Here is one which closed at auction last evening. (May 5, 2021)

I want to think it is a refinish, but I could be wrong.

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IMO Revolvers are still valid, and I saw the TFB TV video on that revolver, and it's pricey, but it seems that the price may be justified.

That is a crazy price. I imagine the buyer did not know that it is not an original finish, but most likely the refinish of a very worn police revolver like this

Hello everybody, For what it's worth, I was able to examine, handle, and dry fire a Manurhin MR73 the other day, and I thought some of you might be interested in my reactions. The gun is very well finished (blued)...about on a par with my S&W 19-3s. The trigger is very smooth, again, about on a par with my nicely smoothed up 19-3s. The MR73 I handled had a six inch barrel and felt nicely balanced in my hand. The Trausch grip felt very nice indeed.

I'd very much like to have one of the MR73s more as a curiosity than anything else, but they really aren't available just now. A salesman from the New York Beretta office said they might have more in in about Sept. I suspect that by then, I'll have lost interest.

On the down side, if I'm properly seeing the several youtube videos on
the MR73s they lack two of the internal safely devices that are built in to traditional S&W revolvers. As you know, there are three internal blocks on a Hand ejector...I believe I'm correct in this...The rebound spring, the bolt safety, and the sliding safety. Each of these does its bit to keep the gun from firing unless the cylinder is properly in place and the trigger is pulled. The Manurhin appears to lack both the bolt safety and the sliding safety. If I'm correct about this, it would be interesting to get into the minds of the engineers who designed the MR73. Did they not realize just what the bolt safety did? Did they think the sliding safety was an unnecessary redundancy? Interesting.

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You compared the MR73 with the S&W Model 19. Good comparison since the French used the Model 19 until they decided to build their own revolver. They liked the Model 19 but it wore out too quickly due to their extensive training. They designed the MR73 to be similar to the Model 19. So, there is a good reason for the similarity in the two revolvers.

The MR73 is simply a better built revolver for quality and durability over the Model 19. Therefore the significant price difference in the two.

I really like my MR73. It came with a 4 & 1/2 lb. single action trigger pull and a 7 lb. double action. This setting feels right
for my use. The trigger pull length and the single action hammer draw are both shorter on my MR73 than my Model 19 and the Model 66.

Just bumped this recent one to alert the enthusiasts.
Over on BrokeGunner, there is a beastly wicked model
called the MR93. Over 60 photos in the array, and certainly
something you rarely get a chance to see.