Some are way out in left field on this.

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Sure you did

Gotta love thread drift.

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Release the Kraken

Just an FYI, but I was thinking that with this influx of Carbines in unknown condition that parts might begin to dry up soon. So, I went looking for a spring and pin kit for my QH Carbine. It doesn't need it right now, just insurance for the future health of this fine weapon that very well could have seen duty at D-Day (Serial Number puts it in the range completed by Quality Hardware in September 1943).

Looks like some folks are already starting to jack up prices, with sellers on Fleabay wanting $50 for a spring kit. I did, however, find a full spring and pin kit on SARCO to $10, and with shipping it is a tad over $13. If you think that you might need some soon, it might be best not to wait.

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Only a cold warrior

Exactly what Sistema1927 said. If you already own a Carbine and need anything for it, get it right now! Prices will be going way up very soon.

You are wrong and totally misinformed. You should read the history of the DCM(director of civilian marksmanship) later called CMP(civilian marksmanship program). A long history of surplus military made available to US citizens.

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Old smiling Larry can keep his M1 carbines and all of his products as fare as im concerned . If he wont ship a legal rifle to me in california I dont need to ever buy another thing from him again . I know Im one person and it wont hurt his bottom line but Im tiered of people saying they are for the second amendment and then thier action prove otherwise .

Picked up a .30 Carbine Receiver off Shotgun News years ago.



After a while I eventually sent it off to Federal Ordinance and they built a nice .30 carbine for me. I think I have about 600 bucks in the build. I have another Inland re-import that I think I paid 200 bucks for!

"Another Springfield Armory Inc. advertisement in Shotgun News in June 2001 indicates their M1 Carbine receivers were still available. At the National Rifle Championships held at Camp Perry Ohio in the summer of 2003, these forged steel receivers were being sold at clearance prices at the Springfield Armory booth in the vendor area.

These receivers were of a quality and dimensions equal to, and some believe better than, the original WWII Carbines manufactured under contract to U.S. Army Ordnance. They have been one of the best commercial carbine receivers manufactured to date."
After market Folding stock one is the Inland.

Folding Stock is ****! Back split and has been repaired, back to the original stock!

Some of us agree with ol' Larry. The voters in California have brought it on themselves, it's not Larry or Wayne's fault.

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Live long and prosper

I'm betting a mod will be along directly to remind us about rules on politics...

I don't think the Californians upset about not being able to buy an M1 carbine are the ones responsible for the gun laws there.

I know exactly what DCM was and it’s purpose. It wasn’t set up to sell surplus weapons as its mission. It was to get programs going to have civilians familiarized with rifle marksmanship.
CMP isn’t a pimple on DCMs butt.

There was a time when it was frowned upon. Nowadays it may start in the second post.

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Well...

I added a Winchester with no bayonet lug to my cart and tried to pay. I got a message that the item was restricted.

Confirmed. They are not shipping to California, despite M1 Carbines being perfectly legal there.

Without being political, any outrage directed against Larry P. for not wanting to ship to California is misplaced.

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Only a cold warrior

The feeding frenzy has begun. Some models are out of stock already. Not sure what “one-time run” means, but it sounds like those are gone.

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“What you got, ain’t new.”

Midway's help page says they are happy to ship guns to California. I've spent a fair amount of money there over the years. I'm honestly disappointed in this decision.

They probably just don't want to deal with the hassle.

California has become so hostile to gun rights and they have so many strange rules that are unique vs. any other state that many gun dealers just simply quit doing business with them.

I'm betting Potterfield is doing this for the advertising value. Getting restricted items re-imported hasn't been cheap for decades.

What, those overpriced mixmaster import stamped Carbines are going like hot cakes? Who’d a thunk it?

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Sure you did

I would not blame Larry Potterfield for crazy Kalifornia's dumb-azz gun laws. If he could ship them there, you bet he would. He's in business to make money, so don't blame Larry for your states stupid laws. And as far as M-1 carbines unreliability, I've owned two in the last 50 years, and both ran like a Singer sewing machine. As far as "my uncles step-dad knew a Marine from World War II that said the carbine was junk, and they threw them in the trash, or traded for an M-3 sub-gun (a REAL piece of junk!), well, I take those stories with about 3 lbs of salt.

Well.....
Did anyone here buy one ??

Not I. But I'll bet they all sell out today! There are people who love the little carbine, all the naysayers in this thread not withstanding.

I would have been glad to buy one if I could go in and pick though them for just the right one. Alas, it wasn't like that and I am not going to take potluck in a feeding frenzy.

Yes the price sounds high, but the seller does indeed want to make a profit. Businessmen are funny that way.

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You're shy a few manners.

Some people in a Discord I frequent bought a few, the desirable ones went fast but they snagged some. I'll post any cool **** they got.

I don't agree with CA's gun laws any more than you do. However, it remains legal in CA to own an M1 carbine and it it perfectly legal to have one shipped to an FFL.

Midway already had my FFL on file and sells guns to CA. The way these sold out, Midway lost no money excluding CA. I remain curious as to why.

They were all gone by 11:00 am CST...
Not sure how many they had.

I’d say based on the rapid sellout, they weren’t overpriced.

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Say what you want. Facts are facts. It was/is about civilian marksmanship. the offshoot is we as American citizens can buy great military firearms there. When in stock. WAY CHEAPER than in public as ol Larry wants for his. Anyways, your dislike has zero effect on me and thousands of others.

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I am late to the game but did get one…..I just wanted one to go with my original magazines.

Well, they do seem to be going up in price about 10% every year and Larry's prices seem to be pretty square with the market price these days. People list them on auction sites for so called "correct" examples for a lot more. An M-1 carbine is one of the easiest rifles out there to break down and swap parts on. There's a bunch of people that just buy parts so they can build a "correct" rifle and flip it on GB. The CMP doesn't have a source for carbines anymore and hasn't for a few years so it's a supply and demand thing now.

Anyone who thinks the CMP is connected to the federal gov't, is supported by tax payers, or is operating in the red needs to do a little more research.

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A bit skeptical....but I snagged one.
National Postal Meter.....Good to very good.
We will see...
Received notification it already shipped.

One source stated there were 1300 units...

JG sales must have been waiting. Mags, bayos, wood, in stock.

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Only $49.95 each for USGI, which may have rust spots. Two dollars more to select one with your desired markings.
M1 Carbine 15rd Surplus Magazine, Original USGI, Nice Blued Condition, with Choice of Mfg Available.

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You're shy a few manners.

A few years ago I tried to sell a bunch of original mags in lightly used condition for $25/ea. They were stored away in cosmoline probably sometime in the 60's and a real chore to clean up. I finally dropped the price to $18 and sold them. $50/ea seems a bit high. A person might be able to locate a few on the CMP forum for a lot less.

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That's just somebody talkin.

A few months ago I was buying USGI mags under $20/shipped in wrapper, and the KCI ones (which i honestly prefer) cheaper still. I don't know that the number midway is selling will have an impact on the mag market (mostly private sales anyways) but I guess we'll see.

I passed because the prices were higher than I could pay, but I don’t believe they were overpriced, given the current selling prices of pre-lock S&W revolvers in general (3” in particular), S&W 952s, Pythons, HK rifles, and a whole lot of others that come to mind.

I remember buying USGI mags still in the wrap for less than $5 each. Now they're $50!
But then this is like all those posts where folks are reminiscing about the Carbines they bought years ago for $100 or less.
Sorry to tell you, but those the days of cheap Mil-Surps are long gone and never to return.

Yes sir, maybe I’m the dumbest one in the crowd, but my Winchester will be delivered on Friday (assuming UPS doesn’t mess it up).

Yep, expensive to be sure, but I’ve never owned one, and now I will. Did I pay too much to buy too soon? Honestly don’t care, it’s a piece of WWII History and I’ll be proud to pass it down in the family and shoot it just for fun.

BTW, when I looked back at the site just after lunch, they were all sold out. No idea how many they had, but within 4-6 hours they were all gone.

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SWCA #3370 - SWHF #672

I live about 5 hours from Anniston. I've been buying stuff over there for years. The drive ain't bad and the scenery is nice. The stock ain't what it used to be but I did get a 03A3 Smith/Corona and a 1917 Eddystone for decent prices a couple of weeks ago. There were no M1 Garands for sale while I was there. Mail order only. About five years ago I was over there and they had 15 round M1 carbine mags for $5.00 each. Some were in bad shape, but I did pick out about 20 nice ones. I've had some of the 30 round mags with not very good results. They haven't had carbines in a while and the last two I got were Underwoods. I kept one and traded one for one I didn't have. I'm thinking that if they ever get any more carbines that they are going to sell for a lot more than the last ones I bought there.

Got a email from Midway. I knew the M1 Carbine was banned by name in NJ.
Not buying one anyway for $1100 that was lent to our allies. They should have went to the CMP

So you resort to childish insults.......Your post is still wrong. The CMP funds itself.

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How do you know that these were "lent to our allies"? Do you have a source to support your contention?

My understanding was that if they were, that they would have reverted to the Army, and possibly eventually to CMP. However, ones that were sold to other countries would not come back via that route, and could then be sold on the open market.

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For those of you who bought one: please post lots of pictures and a range report. I'm sure the rest of us would like to know just what ya got.

KCI M1 .30 Carbine 15-Round Magazine

While I've got it copied for another chat, these are the mags I prefer over the GI for shooting, $11/per and in stock.

Brownells is showing in stock new in wrap surplus WW ll carbine mags for $39.99. American made also.

I think that is basically correct. The problem I think with the ones that are owned outright is the importation process. Lots of hoops to jump through which has to be approved by the state dept. That has to drive up the cost also. IIRC an importer tried to get the S Korean carbines into the country and a certain adm used an EO to keep them out. Evidently that EO is no longer a problem.

All of the 1911's now being sold by the CMP were owned by the US Army and were gifted to the CMP. The channels for any carbines on loan would be the same because the army would still own those. The CMP has said that don't foresee any more carbines coming from that source.

Edit. Source of Midway carbines.

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I have never tried the KCI mags so I don't know anything about them. But the price of KCI mags may not matter much.

A lot of recent purchasers will want USGI mags. There is something about M1 Carbine buyers that drives them to being obsessively "correct". Fifty dollars for a magazine with the right stampings is nothing to them.

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I've used their 15s and 30s extensively in my M1s, a friend's M2, and he uses their 30s exclusively in that M2. They're solid, but it's not a high bar as the USGI magazines aren't that great and a definite weak point of the design. I've got a bunch of usgi mags and a handful of KCI mags, if I could do it over I'd reverse that, even when the price difference was much lower.

We qualified with them in the USAF in West Berlin in 1970. Rattily old things left over From WWII I guess. A hoot to shoot but not real accurate. Don't recall any malfunctions. But again, a real pleasure to fire.

Only time I ever fired one. The next year they had M-16s for us for qualification, as they had in basic.

Wish I had bought one when CMP had their last batch - out of my price range now.

And.. they’re gone…
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