with Romeozero Elite red dot.

The firearm looks and feels like a real winner. I love the trigger pull on it... Almost like single action. First shots will come tomorrow. I expect nothing less than complete satisfaction.

Now for the red dot... It stinks!!! What was Sig thinking with it's design? The sole button to access the features is almost up against the glass under the hood. It is extremely difficult to turn on which makes it next to impossible to access the controls to change any of it's features. I wrestled with it for almost 2 hours with no luck changing anything. You also have to remove the sight to change the battery.

I looked to see if Sig had other better models but didn't see any that would fit this model handgun. A lot of YouTube videos raved about the Holosun 507k red dot on their P365. I immediately purchased one to have sometime this week. All of the controls are easily accessible. The battery sits in a tray accessible on the right side.

I bought the P365 with red dot installed as a package deal so the red dot shouldn't be returnable to Sig.

Who has a P365 380acp and what do you think about it?

I have a 365 and a 365XL with Holosun 507 sight, both have thumb safetys and like them both a lot! The smaller 365 has an excellent trigger but the larger gun is not too bad. The Holosun sight works great once you get use to it, you have to be careful that your left thumb doesn't hit the dimmer switch during recoil but the "instant on" and the big "circle and dot" sight work great!

Just now finding out they made a P365 in 380.

My 9mm P365 is my all time favorite EDC.

I’m wondering why you chose the .380? Isn’t the 9mm the same size and cheaper to shoot? I’m going back n forth on a 365 or Hellcat. I like Hellcat but don’t like that it’s made in Croatia.

I chose the P365 in .380 because I like to shoot. I have several firearms in 380ACP and they're all accurate and a blast to shoot.

I have the Hellcat in 9MM and a SA XDS in 45ACP. Both are pretty much the same size as the P365. They're accurate but not fun to shoot for any long period. Shorter barrel leads to more recoil. It's harder for me to get back on target considering I only shoot 5" Shoot-N-See targets.

I don't carry but for home defense I have the 5906 ready to go along with plenty of extra mags. Hardly any recoil and is DA/SA.

I also like the "shock and awe" that my PMR30 provides if I start unloading 30rds of Hornady Varmint in an intruders direction.

I wasn’t impressed with the factory sight either. Luckily with the modularity of the P365 you can buy a standard slide and have it milled for a better choice.

My understanding with the P365 is there are multiple mounting plates available to allow nearly any red dot to be used. I have the original P365 with just iron sights, and find it one of them most ergonomically made handguns. It feels like an extension of my hand. I stay with the open sights for any of my defense handguns, I realize the dependability of the dot sights by now, but still won't take the chance of a dead battery on the time I need it. I do have red dots on several target guns.

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SWCA1967 SWHF244

While I’m sure it will be a fine seller for Sig, it’s odd to me they’d mfg the 365 in .380 and not try and scale it down a bit more?

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My issue isn't with the iron sights on the P365 but rather the RomeoZero red dot that came with it.

The Holosun 507K X2 is a "drop in" red dot with no modifications needed. Unlike the RomeoZero the Holosun's features are easy to access as well as easy to use.

The Holosun has a sleep mode with multiple times that it will shut off if there's no movement. It comes set at 10 minutes but if you CC it wont shut off unless you manually do it.

The Holosun has a low profile that allows you to co-witness the iron sights so if the battery dies you can keep going.

Below are some pics I took. Sorry for the low light.

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Holosun= CCP’s finest.

380 is for the kids to learn shooting, not to carry

It might not be considered a carry gun but break into my house and I'll show you what a mag dump of 16 rounds feels like.

Don't ever underestimate what any firearm can do in the hands of an experienced gun owner.

Personally, I specialize in head shots.

Sig have pulled this gag before with the P250 in 380. By keeping the same size slide they can fit a weaker recoil spring and make the gun really easy to rack. My wife loves hers.

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Ditto your thoughts on the Romeo Zero. Holosun 407k and be done with it, or irons if thats your jam.

I like the co-witness you’re getting with the Holosun. I installed extra tall X-rays on mine and they just barely clear the RMRcc. I have many Trijicon products and they all have performed stellar, however I’ve heard nothing but good things about Holosun. Maybe it’s time I try one.

Youtube is a great place to research things.

I've watched guys take a dremel tool to install a particular red dot. Some red dots require the removal of the rear iron sight. I'm glad I kept looking.

Not to start any argument here, but while I do own a Colt .380 acp Model M Pocket Pistol, I don't think I'd ever use it as a defensive handgun unless I had no other choice. I also own a P365 in 9mm and think it's the cat's meow and has been my EDC for 4 years now.

Originally the whole idea Sig that perfected was to put a powerful 9mm cartridge into a .380 sized carry gun. They did an incredible industry changing job on that. Don't really understand why someone would want to go backwards but that's just one man's opinion. To each his own.

I don't know about others here, but after shooting over 3,800 rounds through my Sig P365 I have never felt that the recoil was objectionable - and that includes shooting +P's on occasion. In fact, my P365 immediately replaced my trusted long time M60-7 as my EDC. Now the M60-7 with Buffalo Bore 158 grain +P's was a handful! I did not choose to install rubber grips on the small revolver because they are not pocket carry friendly. So without recoil absorbing grips - the M60-7 got shot less and less as I got older - not a good thing for a carry gun - constant practice is essential. Hence the switch to what I consider a mild recoiling gun - the 9mm P365. Again, that's just my personal opinion and my intent is not to ruffle feathers here - just posting my personal opinion.

The P365 in 9 is sliced bread.

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Sig came out with the P365 .380acp as an alternative to the original 9mm version for those people who have difficulty racking the slide. The .380 recoil spring is lighter enough than the 9mm recoil spring to make a significant difference when racking the slide. Arthritis, diminished strength and physical limitations as we get older can be an issue, and for some people the .380 version might be a better option than the 9mm. They kept the profile of the gun the same size for holster compatibility with the 9mm version. If they made the P365 .380acp smaller, the recoil spring would have to be shorter and heavier which would defeat the whole purpose.

While .380acp might not be everybody’s first choice as a defensive caliber, for some it’s the best choice due to strength issues. At the end of the day it’s not the size of the caliber you carry, it’s being able to put bullets in a good and effective place to stop a threat.

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SWCA #2727 , SWHF #435

Stand at the 25 yard line and let a pistolero fire 10 of my 380 120gr HC handloads at you.
If you smile after each hit you’ll get a cookie or a slice of pizza.

Some people cannot handle 9mm or bigger proficiently.
Beats empty hands.
Our easy shooting 38s are well liked by the petite Ladies and they’ll give you blueberry muffins.

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I agree with your comments, and believe that having something is always better than nothing as it relates to caliber, and also placement matters.

That said, whenever I hear people talk about how comfortable they are with .380 as a self defense round, I’m reminded of my buddy’s story of his friend getting shot by a .380. He and a friend were at a bar back in the 80s. His friend got into an altercation with another guy. His friend went to walk away, and the guy pulls out a Colt Mustang and mag dumped into his friend’s back. All torso shots from what my buddy said. His friend lived, and is doing just fine.

Now obviously, none of those .380 rounds hit the right place, and maybe 9mm would have been the same result. Maybe not? It just made me think twice about relying on that round.

I pocket carry a Kahr P380 from time to time. Great little gun, can’t beat the size.

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A .380 acp beats a pointed stick and harsh words every day of the week!

Well, I don't have strength problems at least as far as racking any slide.

Recoil varies with caliber and barrel length in my opinion. There's a noticeable difference between my Sig P365 380 and my Bersa Thunder Plus in 380. In 9MM the recoil on my Hellcat is much greater than my 5906.

Notice the pics below. I prefer practicing with the 5.5" Caldwell target. It's not an issue with any of my .380 firearms. I have to slow down to get back on target shooting my Hellcat. My practice is to aim small...miss small.

I figure if I get proficient hitting the small target with all of my firearms the 24" silhouette target will never be an issue .

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A locked breech .380 solves a lot of the racking and shooting problems folk with small hands and/or diminished strength experience.

My wife's buddy is a perfect example. She has tiny hands and wrists and struggles to rack a 9mm. She owns a Sccy CPX-2 and can barely work it. Adding in the DAO trigger and the grip size (yeah, really) her accuracy is poor. She shot my wife's P250 in 380 and did much better. There's nothing wrong with the CPX-2, as it is combat accurate at 7-10 yards for me.

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Hope you never have this statement shoved down your throat by some prosecutor.....

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So the idea of putting a red dot on a 380 is so you can't pocket carry. I don't get it.

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I agree with you. I don’t understand the whole notion of putting a red dot on a pocket gun which is intended for short distance use.
Perhaps some of you can clear that up for me.

For the recoil shy with poor handstrength, a .380 of this type may well be their primary (only?) house gun. So why not put a red dot on it?

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I have two 365XL's, one from a couple of years ago, and one which was recently on sale at my shooting range. Second had a Romeo Zero from the factory (they included the iron sights in the box). First one, I tried the Zero, didn't like it, sold the Zero, and bought a Holosun 507. I like the controls on the 507 much more than the Zero, and both co-witness, so the jury is still out on which one will eventually win. The dot has advantages, and the circle/dot does too.

A 365 in .380? At my age, I may consider it. For years while out on the road in the 80's, I carried a Walther PPK-S .380, and found it accurate and easy to carry and shoot. Back then, I carried Silvertips. I'm sure there is other .380 ammo available that is as effective.

(Note - I was window shopping Cabela's today, and they have a lot of .380, including Federal and Hornady SD loads, as well as 90gr. FMJ loads.)

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I can't say I prefer iron sights over a red dot but I'm willing to try it. I also have a green laser on a couple firearms. I'm beginning to think the laser might be a better choice given the variety of conditions one might encounter.