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05-21-2023, 11:26 PM
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Info on Winchester 70
I own one in 270 win, I acquired a used one and I like to know more about the rifle.
Can you all guide me please? 
Cosmetically the barrel had superficial rust on the bluing.
The bore was clean and no signs of rust.
I replaced the scope. I went with a vortex 4x16
It shoots good, it’s dialed in a 300 yds.
It likes 130gr reloads.
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05-22-2023, 08:05 AM
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A close up pic of the action and bolt would help. It looks like a push feed post 1964 rifle. A 4x16 power scope seems like a bit much for Deer hunting, good for varmint hunting maybe. But some folks just like big scopes.
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05-22-2023, 08:30 AM
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A close up pic of the action and bolt would help. It looks like a push feed post 1964 rifle. A 4x16 power scope seems like a bit much for Deer hunting, good for varmint hunting maybe. But some folks just like big scopes.
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Big scopes let you hunt earlier an later. Nice mdl 70. I have a Swarovski 2.4x12x50 my Win mdl 70 FWT in .280 and love it.
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Look at the red butt pad and see if it has U.S. Repeating Arms. If so, they were producing Winchester Model 70's in the 80's.
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05-22-2023, 09:27 AM
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I know Winchester came out with the XTR version back around 1978. Glossier bluing and better finish on walnut. If push feed could be of that era I had a 74 made Model 70 which was not as nice in overall finish as the one pictured above.
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05-22-2023, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
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A close up pic of the action and bolt would help. It looks like a push feed post 1964 rifle. A 4x16 power scope seems like a bit much for Deer hunting, good for varmint hunting maybe. But some folks just like big scopes.
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The OP doesn’t indicate where he is from. Way back in the day before variable scopes were the norm, the Weaver K-4 was for eastern hunters and the K-6 was for western hunters and it was rare to see much more magnification.
However, now the 3-9x is common everywhere and a 3-12 or 4-16x scope on a .270 isn’t unusual out in the big flat states where;
-hunting distances are a little longer and or where you might want a little more magnification to verify which pronghorn you want to shoot;
- where the extra magnification can help with long range predator hunting; and
- where even a .270 might be used for Varmint hunting.
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Big scopes let you hunt earlier a later. Nice mdl 70. I have a Swarovski 2.4x12x50 my Win mdl 70 FWT in .280 and love it.
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Big objective lenses produce a larger exit pupil for a given magnification which allows for improved low light use.
I have a 4-14x46 on my long range hunting rifle. The 56 mm objective allows a full 7mm exit pupil at 8x and at 14x it still has a 4mm exit pupil that makes will create a bright, sharp image even on a heavy over cast day.
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05-22-2023, 07:04 PM
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Look at the red butt pad and see if it has U.S. Repeating Arms. If so, they were producing Winchester Model 70's in the 80's.
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It’s got Winchester in the center. My eyes can’t read the smaller stuff.
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It’s a push feed gun. The pre-64 Winchester‘s with controlled round feeding used to be very highly sought after, and they had the supposedly superior Mauser feeding and extraction system. The push feed system was easier and cheaper to produce but in reality it was every bit as good. Nearly all rifles now have push feed type systems.
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Thanks Farmer.
I use it as a 300yd range gun.
I shoot 6-9 shots. I put it down.
And I Grab another 300 yd gun.
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05-22-2023, 07:26 PM
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I never had any issues with push feed guns, but if I were hunting dangerous game where my life might depend on it, I'd go with a controlled feed rifle.
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05-22-2023, 07:48 PM
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Papa - If you send me the serial number, I'll tell you the year it was manufactured.
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05-22-2023, 09:52 PM
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The most prized Model 70s in all variations are those made prior to 1964, the older the better. Some calibers are in the rare category. Around that time, Winchester was prostituting most of their firearms line to lower production costs to better compete with other manufacturers, most notably Remington. Generally, Winchester rifles and shotguns for a few years beyond 1964 were scorned by the buying public because too many corners had been cut. They were perfectly serviceable guns, but no one could compare the quality and appeal of the post-64 guns to those made earlier. I once had a 1967 M70 in .270 that I bought around 1995 for less than $100. Nothing wrong with it at all, but I couldn’t get any enthusiasm worked up about it. Very plain wood, clubby stock with a big gap around the barrel, and impressed checkering. I kept it a few years before selling it to a friend for, as I remember, $175. On the other hand, I still have a Model 1200 Skeet Grade 12 gauge pump and it is my favorite. It displaced the pre-64 Model 12 shotgun. Truth be told, I would not trade that 1200 even for an equivalent condition Model 12. I think it is that good.
I presently have two Model 70s, a 1937 Standard in .270 and a 1953 Featherweight in .308. Those will be the last rifles I sell when the day arrives. Regarding the .270 as a useful varmint caliber, it works superbly in that role if 110 grain bullets are used. I have another .270, a Model 7400 Remington semiauto. Some love to denigrate the Remington semiautos, but mine groups like a good bolt action and is very dependable. Not sure it is because of the rifle or the caliber. I am one of those who firmly believes that a good rifle chambered in .270 or .30-‘06 is all anyone needs in the lower 48. Forget all the other calibers.
There is a book titled “The Rifleman’s Rifle” by Roger Rule that will tell you everything you would ever possibly want to know about the Model 70, old or new. But if you can find a copy, it won’t be cheap. Probably $200+ today. I have a copy that provides the serial number range for each year of new M70 production from 1963 to 1981. There were around 750,000 of the “new” M70s made in total by Winchester during that time. The greatest production in a single year was in 1977, about 77,000. USRA production began in July 1981.
I am very catholic about scopes. I find that older El Paso Weaver K2.5s, K4s, and K6s bought cheap at gun shows are at least the equal of any other for normal use. And those Weavers are also historically correct for the earlier M70s. I am not crazy about variables but I do own several.
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About two years ago, visited a Winchester specialty GS in a small Nebraska town, where I have bought rifles for near half century. He showed me a handsome Winchester 70 in 270, a popular plains cartridge, and explained it was one of a small number of reproduction pre-64 rifles made about twenty years ago. All the nice features of those earlier rifles. So bought it, and reload Hornady 130 grain SST's for it. A Vortex scope and a nice leather sling. It is a really nice rifle, my only 270, but it is a bit heavy I would think for lugging all day under a prairie sun. I think I paid $1300 for it. I will post also a pic of a "controlled feed" bolt face if anyone is not really sure of the difference from the above "push feed" rifles.
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The latest issue of Rifle magazine has an in depth article about the pre 64 Winchester by Brian Pearce. Brian lives what he writes about and hunts in remote areas and has great praise for controlled feed rifles.
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