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The Uberti Schofield
I've looked at these things for years, seems like every time I'd see one at a gunshow or my LGS, I'd have to stop and ask, "May I see that please?". Play with it for a few minutes and then hand it back thinking, "Wow. That's actually pretty cool".
Every one I've handled, and there's been a bunch, struck me on how well they were fitted, the quality of the machining, and excellent polishing. But I always handed it back over as it seemed I was always looking for something else that day.
But not anymore. 🙂
This one was sold through Navy Arms about 20 years ago and came to me LNIB. The lock-up on this six gun is INCREDIBLE. Really looking forward to getting out to the range with this one. I'm betting it's going to be very accurate, and I just happen to be sitting on several hundred rounds of 45 Colt "Cowboy Loads".
Anyone else own one? Or Two? Any of the other variants of Number 3?
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I have one and we love shooting it! They have appreciated somewhat in value over the last few years.
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Nice revolver. Also picked up one a few years ago to go with my Crossfire Trail impression. Not as fast as my vaqueros but fun to shoot.
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I also have one of the Navy Arms versions made by Uberti. Excellent gun and a fine shooter. Very happy with it.
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I have a Cimarron/Uberti Schofiled and it is a beautiful firearm that is just plain fun to shoot. I took it out and fired it side by side with my Ruger Blackhawk. The Cimarron/Uberti revolver produced significantly lower velocities than the Blackhawk using the same length barrel. I also noticed the brass cases were more significantly soot coated on the Schofield. I also fired some mild handloaded 255gr LFP cast bullets through both and again the Schofield was significantly slower. When I got home I tried dropping the 255gr cast LFP bullets through the chambers on the Schofield and they dropped straight though easily. When I checked the cylinder throats on the Cimarron/Uberti they measured out at .457. I bought and loaded some Hornady 255gr .454 (#12458) swaged lead bullets to see if they will bump up to fill the throats when fired.
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Sadly, I bought a new Model 3 Cimarron/Uberti Schofield early this year off GunsInternational. It is beautiful but had serious endshake problems (0.005-0.009” cylinder gap variance). I talked to Cimarron about fixing it before accepting delivery. They’ve had it for over 3 months now and just told me at the end of May that they had to order a new barrel and cylinder from Uberti to correct the problem.
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Barrel-cylinder gap and cylinder throats have kept me from buying one. No easy fix for the problem either.
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I have two - long 7 1/2" barrel and short 3" barrel. Long barrel works fine, the shorter barreled one has a mysterious problem I can't solve.
The Uberti made guns have a hammer block safety that's supposed to drop away from the falling hammer when the trigger is pulled. And it does ... when the action is open. But close the action and the damned thing doesn't drop out of the way. Happens every time.
I know how the "safety" works - a pin on the inside of the hammer is supposed to push down the safety block when the hammer falls. For the life of me I can't figure out why. I've also bought & fitted new parts - no change. I'd just as soon remove the damn thing but unless I leave the hammer fully forward the cylinder will spin free. And there's not enough metal on the hammer to create that 1st "safety notch".
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The Schofield is one of those neat looking guns that have you wondering why they didn't replace the 1872 and others entirely, then you handle one and discover why. The 7.5" is ungainly - muzzle heavy, grip too short, too tight behind the trigger guard, and the low-angle hammer spur cocks straight back with none of the wonderful "curve" one feels in the Colt design. The gun "points" okay, but offers nothing like the SAA in terms of balance in the hand. For this the trade off the one GREAT feature and that's the break action design for fast clearing of empties and quick loading. But even with that said, it's one of those guns you just gotta have to take out and play with, and admire for what it represented in the evolution of revolvers.
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The above post reminded me - a KLN frame BK grip adapter works great on the Schofield. Better hold and makes SA thumb cocking easier, no need to change your grip.
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The Schofield is one of those neat looking guns that have you wondering why they didn't replace the 1872 and others entirely, then you handle one and discover why. The 7.5" is ungainly - muzzle heavy, grip too short, too tight behind the trigger guard, and the low-angle hammer spur cocks straight back with none of the wonderful "curve" one feels in the Colt design. The gun "points" okay, but offers nothing like the SAA in terms of balance in the hand. For this the trade off the one GREAT feature and that's the break action design for fast clearing of empties and quick loading. But even with that said, it's one of those guns you just gotta have to take out and play with, and admire for what it represented in the evolution of revolvers.
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To each their own, but I didn't find the 7.5" barrels I've played with to be "ungainly" at all, albeit there is of course additional heft on the front end, the same as the 7.5" SAA. And chopping the barrel to 5" solves that, even though I didn't consider it an issue in the first place.
With regards to grip angle and the other subjective criteria about tightness of the trigger guard and "wonderful curves", I disagree entirely. This gun, for me, is a GREAT natural pointer and feels much better in hand than a SAA or Remington 1875. That's the reason I bought it.
Again, to each their own.
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Anyone else own one? Or Two? Any of the other variants of Number 3?
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I had a very early import. I don't remember the maker or importer. It would unlatch when fired. Sent it back for a refund. I understand the newer ones function correctly. Yours is a handsome firearm. Have you shot it?
There were replica Number 3 Americans produced. Here's a couple of links:
NEW MODEL N.3 FRONTIER | Uberti Replicas | Top quality firearms replicas from 1959
GUNS Magazine Cimarron S&W No. 3 American - GUNS Magazine
The museum were I volunteer has Number 3 in .44 Russian with 8 inch barrel.
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I have a 5 1/2" and a 3". I couldn't be happier with them. Oddly, the 3" seems to shoot better than the 5 1/2"
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I bought a TAYLORS & CO. (UBERTI) last summer. The cyl gap was .013". I had to wear gloves to shoot it, to keep burned powder off my hands. Sent it back to TAYLORS. 8 months later, same problem. Shoots ok, but must wear gloves. BTW 44-40 cal.
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I like them also
I tend to like shiny cowboy guns for SASS
Saw a 3 1/2" come into the shop and had to have it, it being 400.00 helped
I also got a 45 Colt converted BP to go with it
Picked up a few of the Barra airgun versions also, much cheaper to practice with, you can get them in 5" and 7
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Well I have 3 original US Schofield, 75.76.77. My pride and joys of all my collection.
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S&W made their own commemorative Model 3 Schofield
Back in Y2K, S&W's Performance Center released their own Model 3 Schofield commemorative. They were actually chambered for 45 S&W. I have two of them, one nickel-plated and one blued. Here are a couple of quick photos of the blued one. I also have a Navy Arms (Uberti) version chambered in 45 Colt. I like both versions, but the actual S&W commemorative balances better. I've used them to shoot in SASS events.
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I had one of the Uberti 7.5" .45 Colt versions. No issues with the barrel/cylinder gap or throats but the trigger was absolutely atrocious. Heavy with a lot of creep. Others reported their triggers were fine.
From reading the comments in this thread it seems that the quality varies from one gun to the next. I would certainly want to have some plug gauges and a feeler gauge handy before buying another.
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I have looked at these several times myself. Maybe one day I'll actually buy one! Enjoy!
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I tend to like shiny cowboy guns for SASS
Saw a 3 1/2" come into the shop and had to have it, it being 400.00 helped
I also got a 45 Colt converted BP to go with it
Picked up a few of the Barra airgun versions also, much cheaper to practice with, you can get them in 5" and 7
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A) I really like the 3.5" nickel. I got mine at a pretty nice price too, not $400 nice, but lots more attractive than MSRP.
B) Nice collection of pocket top breaks. That knuckle duster H&R (IIRC) looks particularly tasty.
C) Might have to add one of those belly gun BP conversions down the road. I like the uniqueness of them, bet they're fun too.
Thanks for sharing all of them.
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Well I have 3 original US Schofield, 75.76.77. My pride and joys of all my collection.
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Would love to see a picture or three. 🙂
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A) I really like the 3.5" nickel. I got mine at a pretty nice price too, not $400 nice, but lots more attractive than MSRP.
B) Nice collection of pocket top breaks. That knuckle duster H&R (IIRC) looks particularly tasty.
C) Might have to add one of those belly gun BP conversions down the road. I like the uniqueness of them, bet they're fun too.
Thanks for sharing all of them.
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the Knuckle Duster is a IJ, very few were built, they had to be fitted at the factory. If I remember right, there were about 1800 total shipped, they say at one time, Iver Johnson was shipping about 9000 guns a week
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Back in Y2K, S&W's Performance Center released their own Model 3 Schofield commemorative. They were actually chambered for 45 S&W. I have two of them, one nickel-plated and one blued. Here are a couple of quick photos of the blued one. I also have a Navy Arms (Uberti) version chambered in 45 Colt. I like both versions, but the actual S&W commemorative balances better. I've used them to shoot in SASS events.
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I had two of the pro center guns in my sample kit, when I was a RSM for S&W, shot a couple match's with them.
I had found a little out of the way gun shop in the mountains of NC that I called on, that had a couple of cases of 45 Schofield on his shelf, that he had had forever, traded him a case of S&W coffee mugs for them.
Wish I would have kept those guns. I think I might still have some of the paper "Promo kits" on them in a box ,,somewhere.
Holster was made in or around 1938 by "Eubanks leather" in Idaho
(Guns in the holster now are Berra Schofield Co2 bb guns)
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I have one, in 7.5 inches. Gets a lot of looks at cowboy shoots
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I've looked at these things for years, seems like every time I'd see one at a gunshow or my LGS, I'd have to stop and ask, "May I see that please?". Play with it for a few minutes and then hand it back thinking, "Wow. That's actually pretty cool".
Every one I've handled, and there's been a bunch, struck me on how well they were fitted, the quality of the machining, and excellent polishing. But I always handed it back over as it seemed I was always looking for something else that day.
But not anymore. 🙂
This one was sold through Navy Arms about 20 years ago and came to me LNIB. The lock-up on this six gun is INCREDIBLE. Really looking forward to getting out to the range with this one. I'm betting it's going to be very accurate, and I just happen to be sitting on several hundred rounds of 45 Colt "Cowboy Loads".
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Excellent ! Mine in 44-40
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This one was sold through Navy Arms about 20 years ago and came to me LNIB. The lock-up on this six gun is INCREDIBLE. Really looking forward to getting out to the range with this one. I'm betting it's going to be very accurate, and I just happen to be sitting on several hundred rounds of 45 Colt "Cowboy Loads".
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A beautiful brute! With that huge rib, how much does that thing weigh?
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A beautiful brute! With that huge rib, how much does that thing weigh?
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I'd have to look up the spec weight, but it's a rather quick handling single action imo. I'll add this, it's a hell of a lot lighter in the hand than my 1875 Remington clone. (another fun repro to play with)
The barrel rib is scalloped along it's length and has a groove along the top leading to the front sight. It's a neat piece of machining, whether in 1875 or 2023. 🙂
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I'd have to look up the spec weight, but it's a rather quick handling single action imo. I'll add this, it's a hell of a lot lighter in the hand than my 1875 Remington clone. (another fun repro to play with)
The barrel rib is scalloped along it's length and has a groove along the top leading to the front sight. It's a neat piece of machining, whether in 1875 or 2023. 🙂
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Very nice ! I think we think a like. My 1875 is the older EMF, with the rare brass trigger guard, which they don't do anymore. It is also in 44-40.
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I just bought an Uberti 1875. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. What do y'all think of your's?
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I knew of them, but never saw one in any gun shop in my area. Three years ago, went shooting with a buddy. He brought his two Schofields, both in 45 Colt. After shooting his I became interested.
Last year decided to order one from Taylors and Co. They were on back order. Go figure. Well last month I get a call from Ryan at Taylors asking if I still wanted it.
The answer below,,,,,,
Its mine! 7 inch barrel, 38 special.
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Schofield Speed Loaders
The HKS 25-5 (for 45 Colt) and HKS 45 (for 45 auto rim) speed loaders both work perfectly with 45 Colt in current Schofields. Too bad they did not have them in the day. 45 S&W (Schofield brass will not fit,however, rims are too big) DJ
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I have a pair of Uberti Number 3 Russians (in 44 Russian). I have friends with Schofields in both 45 S&W and 45 Colt. The longer cylinder really changes the balance.
I traded into about 750 45 S&W reloads, they won't work ib SAA recessed chambers, but work fine in exposed rim guns like my Vaqueros. They also feed and extract fine in my 92 and Marlin 1894 45 Colt lever guns. But 44 Russian is just too short to work in 92's & 1894's.
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I too have admired the Schofields and other large frame S&W top breaks but could never afford one, original or reproduction. But a few months ago I found a nice Taylor/Uberti Frontier on a local classified site. Its a 6.5" barreled, 44 Special and I'm not complaining. Nice trigger and very accurate with the two boxes of 200 and 240 grain HSM Cowboy action ammo that came with it. Now to find a nice holster rig...
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I too have admired the Schofields and other large frame S&W top breaks but could never afford one, original or reproduction. But a few months ago I found a nice Taylor/Uberti Frontier on a local classified site. Its a 6.5" barreled, 44 Special and I'm not complaining. Nice trigger and very accurate with the two boxes of 200 and 240 grain HSM Cowboy action ammo that came with it. Now to find a nice holster rig...
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I'm jealous, a little bit anyway.
Not that I'm complaining about mine, far from it, but I lost an auction in the month prior to my purchase for a New Model #3 like yours, but in 45 Colt.
So I'm happy with mine, but I want yours too. 😁
And like you, I'm looking at leather. "The addiction that never ends".
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I just bought an Uberti 1875. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. What do y'all think of your's?
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Schofield or Remington?
They both use the date in their product description.
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06-10-2023, 11:25 AM
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I've been Cowboy Shooting two Uberti 5.5" Schofields for the last 14 years, and have never had a lick of trouble with them. I've got 5 different pairs of cowboy guns, so they only get shot every fifth match, but that still amounts to a LOT of shooting over the years. I've personally never found them to be any different to handle than Colt clones or Rugers, nor any less accurate. As someone said above, that seems to vary from gun to gun. I obviously got lucky, twice.
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Finding it was a bit of serendipity. I had just sold my last two S&W top breaks, a 32 and 38 SA. They provided 100% of the funds for the #3. Timing is everything!
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06-10-2023, 01:47 PM
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I keep ding the same as you, pick it up, put it back but I really want one. I'm going to have to pull the trigger so to speak on one, you have convinced me!
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06-11-2023, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VoodooSan
I've been Cowboy Shooting two Uberti 5.5" Schofields for the last 14 years, and have never had a lick of trouble with them. I've got 5 different pairs of cowboy guns, so they only get shot every fifth match, but that still amounts to a LOT of shooting over the years. I've personally never found them to be any different to handle than Colt clones or Rugers, nor any less accurate. As someone said above, that seems to vary from gun to gun. I obviously got lucky, twice.
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Your pics of the rig makes me wish there was a giant thumbs up or something other than just a "Like" button.
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06-11-2023, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTIM255
I had two of the pro center guns in my sample kit, when I was a RSM for S&W, shot a couple match's with them.
I had found a little out of the way gun shop in the mountains of NC that I called on, that had a couple of cases of 45 Schofield on his shelf, that he had had forever, traded him a case of S&W coffee mugs for them.
Wish I would have kept those guns. I think I might still have some of the paper "Promo kits" on them in a box ,,somewhere.
Holster was made in or around 1938 by "Eubanks leather" in Idaho
(Guns in the holster now are Berra Schofield Co2 bb guns)
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Yours too. 🙂
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12-03-2023, 04:37 PM
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I've been eyeing these for some time, and yesterday one showed up at the LGS.... 5" barrel and stag stocks, in .45 Colt, so I brought it home.
Not sure who made the stocks, but they are real and not plastic.
Unfortunately, it didn't come with the original stocks, but I was able to find a set on eBay, and they are on the way. Not sure if I will take the stags off, but I wanted to have a set of the originals in hand.
If anyone has an idea where the stag stocks may have originated, I'd love to hear it.
Looking forward to getting it out to the range, but realistically it may be after the holidays.
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12-03-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter Rego
I had one of the Uberti 7.5" .45 Colt versions. No issues with the barrel/cylinder gap or throats but the trigger was absolutely atrocious. Heavy with a lot of creep. Others reported their triggers were fine.
From reading the comments in this thread it seems that the quality varies from one gun to the next. I would certainly want to have some plug gauges and a feeler gauge handy before buying another.
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+1 on this observation. I would not buy one of these without laying hands on it and doing a thorough inspection.
Cimarron received my #3 with excessive endshake in early March. Last week I was told they finally have the barrel, cylinder and other parts needed to fix it. Ugh. The maddening thing is the gun is just gorgeous.
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12-03-2023, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodan
I've been eyeing these for some time, and yesterday one showed up at the LGS.... 5" barrel and stag stocks, in .45 Colt, so I brought it home.
Not sure who made the stocks, but they are real and not plastic.
Unfortunately, it didn't come with the original stocks, but I was able to find a set on eBay, and they are on the way. Not sure if I will take the stags off, but I wanted to have a set of the originals in hand.
If anyone has an idea where the stag stocks may have originated, I'd love to hear it.
Looking forward to getting it out to the range, but realistically it may be after the holidays.
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Don't know what made those stags, but they look fantastic on your Schofield. Congratulations and thanks for sharing yours.
P.S. I don't know the wood Uberti uses for the OEM grips with the cartouche, but every one I've seen has really great grain, almost like curly maple.
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12-03-2023, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTIM255
I tend to like shiny cowboy guns for SASS
Saw a 3 1/2" come into the shop and had to have it, it being 400.00 helped
I also got a 45 Colt converted BP to go with it
Picked up a few of the Barra airgun versions also, much cheaper to practice with, you can get them in 5" and 7
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Yeah, I'd buy an Uberti for $400 too!
Until I find one (not likely) I have a Umarex replica to play with.
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Barrel-cylinder gap and cylinder throats have kept me from buying one. No easy fix for the problem either.
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I have been tempted to get one of those for years. They are beautiful guns.
But they look like a somewhat delicate design that few gunsmiths are familiar with, and would be a problem when something breaks, or needs tweaking. Replacement parts could also a problem.
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I have one and it’s pretty cool and I love webley top breaks too but for me the Schofield is a very slow gun to shoot. I can run my vaqueros tons faster.
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Seller's pic of the one that got my wallet throbbing. Very pleasant to shoot with moderately loaded .45 rounds.
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Have two Uberti Schofields, 1 is 5” barrel and one is 7”. New from the factory the 5” has some end-shake (007-009) but locks up well and doesn’t shave lead when fired. The 7” has no end-shake and measures .004; shoots perfectly. Guess it is the luck of the draw.
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I’ve heard these Ubertis bind up with black powder (design differed from originals).
Any truth to this?
That combined with all the horror stories of awful customer service (I’ve had bad from Uberti myself in fact) plus lousy QC make this a hard ask for the $$$ these command.
But they’re nifty and pretty for sure. I imagine they’re much faster to get back into the fight than a SAA for reloading.
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