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What 5 New guns would you buy now and put away for future sale?
I see ads in our classified section (and other places) that advertise as "unfired." Like an "unfired" model 27 or...?
So I started to wonder what 5 pistols/revolvers would you buy today to put away for a bunch of years so you could advertise them as 'unfired' and get a premium price in the future. Or I wonder how a gun could be purchased new and then never shot?
Who has the foresight to buy a model 39 and just stash it away; or a 617 and lock it in the safe for 10 years?
So what would it be...and not just Smiths...
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I'd buy 5% CDs, FDIC insured instead of trying to guess what new guns of current or vintage make might be worth a premium in a "bunch of years". Or still legal to own and sell yourself.
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"What 5 New guns would you buy now and put away for future sale"
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"What 5 New guns would you buy now and put away for future sale"
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I’ll lock up some more Gold and Silver.
The Guns I buy now get shot.
Recently bought a Sig 365 X Macro.
Have shot it about 300 times.
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If I bought five guns....
I'd keep them and shoot them and never sell them.
I don't make a good horse trader.
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2. Staccato P or XL
3. Colt Anaconda
4. Stealth Arms 1911 Platypus
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To buy today for investment purposes, I would buy NIB 20-30 year old pre-lock Smiths and similar era Colts. Many can be bought for about the same or near the price of current new guns. Not all but some, certainly 5 could be found.
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Guns that are “new” and easily obtainable are not worthy investments. You might make a few bucks but not worth the trouble. Put your money into some of the easily obtainable 5% CD’s and you will be way ahead. A thousand bucks will make you $629 interest in 10 years.
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At 72 i can’t see anything currently made that would appreciate enough for me to get anything out of. But I’ve always said that a boxcar full of AKs and ammo will be worth more than a boxcar full of gold before the end. And considering that the USA is broke, 33 trillion in the hole, borrowing money to kick the can down the road till the next cycle we are closer to the end than the beginning. A guy I used to work with was fond of saying that the idiots inside the beltway were just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
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1. Colt Ultimate Stainless 6" Python .357 (vintage from 80's or 90's).
2. Colt 6" Blue .22 Diamondback.
3. Smith 629 no dash 6" 44 Magnum.
4. Smith 29-1 6" Blue 44 Magnum.
5. Pre 1970 Browning Hi Power.
These are all of course discontinued and most likely hard to find but I bet there are still some out there NIB, but with a very hefty price tag. If you meant recently manufactured NIB, it would just be a guess and no way that I would know of as to which ones would skyrocket in price in the coming years. Who guessed a Colt Python NIB several years ago that costs $800-$1000 then would have an asking price now of at least three times that much. Or what has happened to Browning Hi Power prices over the past several years. But as others have stated, I have always bought firearms with the intention of shooting them-alot! Never thought of putting one up for investment purposes.
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I see ads in our classified section (and other places) that advertise as "unfired." Like an "unfired" model 27 or...?
So I started to wonder what 5 pistols/revolvers would you buy today to put away for a bunch of years so you could advertise them as 'unfired' and get a premium price in the future.
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When I was young and in college, my cash flow usually forced me to sell one firearm to acquire another. It was never in the budget to preserve one.
As I got older, my cash flow improved.
I have never bought a firearm with the intention that it is going to make me money down the road
I just do not think that way
However today I do have many firearms that remain unfired since leaving the Factory . . . I do this for myself because it is cool or sometimes I do it for the preservation of an item (I am a lover of museums)
The six revolvers pictured above represent one of each variation of the 8 shot Model 27 that have ever been produced. All six have the same serial number with different prefixes. All 6 remain unfired since leaving the Factory. While today this set of six would bring several times what I paid for it, I created this set for myself.
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Or I wonder how a gun could be purchased new and then never shot?
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Easy, purchase two.
One to shoot and one to preserve.
The first run of the 8 shot 627s were on display at the 1997 SHOT Show in January. They were a Lew Horton Exclusive and LH had limited this to only 300 revolvers. I recall this because I wanted serial number 357 (I love serial numbers). I took number 27 instead. It is the revolver in the upper left corner of the image below. It arrived to me in June of 1997.
Since only 300 of the 8 shot revolvers were ever to be produced, I shot this one
I ended up getting a call from Lew Horton just a few months latter asking if I still wanted number 357. This Distributor Exclusive firearm turned out to be the fastest selling Exclusive Lew Horton ever offered. They had decided to run an additional 300 pieces.
Number 357 is in the upper right corner of that group photo and I received it in September of 1997 and that one remains unfired since leaving the Factory.
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Every year the graduating Class of the United States Military Academy commissions a class firearm. This can only be bought by members of the Graduating Class or Instructors. 2002 was the BiCentennial for the USMA.
As I said, I like serial numbers. I wanted #45, the problem was that the serial numbers would be starting with USMA2002 for the BiCentennial. So if I took USMA2045 it would actually be the 44th gun produced. The only solution was to take both USMA2045 and USMA2046. So I own both the number 45 and the 45th gun produced. Both remain unfired since leaving the Factory
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When COLT reintroduced the series 70 1911s, I grabbed serial #70. Obviously I like numbers
It remains unfired since leaving the Factory. I have lots of other 45ACP 1911 Colts that I shoot
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Introduced at the SHOT show in 1985
Production actually began on December 6th of 1984 starting off the AFN serial number prefix
Smith & Wesson selected 25 of the first day of production 649s between serial number 13 and 58 to be Class A+ engraved
This 649 is the 39th produced and wears some of the nicest African Elephant Ivories I have seen on a snubby
This firearm also remains unfired since leaving the Factory
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I have more unfired firearms with accompanying duplicates
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I wish now with 20-20 hindsight that I had bought a truck full of the brand new Russian SKSs back when I bought mine for $145.00. I saw one on GB recently, still unfired for $1450.00. But that was back in the 90s nearly thirty years ago. I don't have another thirty years left to wait for that amount of appreciation.
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"What 5 New guns would you buy now and put away for future sale?"
Assuming you mean "new production":
NONE!
Reasons:
-Too many contemporary firearms, with the exception of a very few high-end imports, are all lacking in the one common denominator and important quality that makes the "classics" so desirable (at least to me): That is, in a word, workmanship.
If you're not gonna shoot them, and they have the build quality and aesthetics of a household appliance, what's the point?
-Inflation will easily wipe out any perceived gain in value. Do you really want to be "that guy" at the gun show desperately trying to recoup his money from those "investment grade" Winchester commemoratives he bought in the 1970s?
-I generally don't bother going to gun stores anymore. Since they've abandoned my needs as a customer (I'm thinking reloading supplies), I've got little reason to support them. They can choke on their tactical gear as far as I'm concerned.
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Smith and Wesson Revolvers, but I would still shoot them. If you look at the prices the last couple years Smiths have continued to clime in price where as Colt's MSRP is still the same and their guns now sell below MSRP.
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I was really interested in S&W’s back in the day and I purchased several and shot them when I could afford to. I don’t sell my firearms either but I do enjoy shooting them. If I had it to do over I would have purchased blued Colt Python revolvers in 2.5” & 6” bbls to go with my 4” Python. I don’t believe they are any better than my S&W’s but they are beautiful,well-made revolvers nonetheless. Not as any kind of investment though, just to enjoy...
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I would spend my time "hunting" in Local Gun Shops for "deals" on unrecognized guns.
couple of examples
About 15 years ago I picked up a 98% Registered Magnum for the then going price of a 6" model 28.... $325
A few years later a 3" Model 66-4 for $300
The RM is now probably a $8,000-9,000 gun (I was offered 8K a few years ago)
The 3" 66s are now selling for $1,000-$1,500
The hunt can also be a lot of fun!
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If these were actually a solid investment asset there'd be an ETF "Firearm Fund" (symbol GUN). Lord knows there's an ETF for every other questionable asset class out there.
They have a poor risk profile. Beyond market risk and selection risk you have political risk and storage costs.
Just use the Inflation Calculator with some current real world examples and you'll see the best they do is keep up with inflation, maybe.
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I'm not a warehouse. I buy guns I like to shoot and enjoy. Over the long haul you make way more money in other endevors than stacking new guns in a closet and waiting 20 or more years them to appreciate.
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Colt SAA's. Already averaging 1K over retail and still in production, but very limited production.
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I’ll suggest this just because no one else has. We’ve all seen the money a documented Fitz, Jovino, Behlert, etc etc go for. We’ve lost many of the great classic gunsmiths. Who is left? Pick up an affordable classic and have him work on it. Keep your invoice!
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New...IDK. But me thinks that any pre 1898 firearm in good working condition would be a safe bet. Winchester levers, the old S&W top breaks, and any pre 98 American made single shot rifle., to name a few.
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Buy the guns you want to shoot. Buy a thousand rounds of ammo, maybe two thousand. Shoot them, enjoy them, practice self-defense actions.
Your practice, your preparations for SD, and enjoyment of what you have now is worth more than guessing what may or may not increase in value.
A CZ 75B that you use in a SD action that saves your life is worth more than a mint FN Hi-Power from 1936 in your safe.
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Guys, the OP did ask about ‘new’ firearms.
A bit of crystal ball gazing:
3” Colt Python, Anaconda
Sig P210 and XM 7 rifle as mentioned above
A really nice custom 1911.
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If you are buying for the express purpose of future resale, then you might be interested in this: New concerns surround ATF's new "gun dealer" definition – Bearing Arms
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I would buy 5 new M41 S&Ws. I don’t think they are going to survive much longer. Political tin foil hat crowd aside I believe 22s will be around a long time. Cheapest to shoot. There has already been a trend to different types of 22 shooting that wasn’t that popular before this present political situation.
I never buy any gun that isn’t possible to break even on. I’m not impressed by those that brag about never selling a gun. But if you buy quality firearms they are an investment. They will be cashed in sooner or later by you or your heirs.
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Last year I bought an unfired model 16-4 6" and an unfired model 24-3 4". Neither remains unfired today. I have made some money trading and selling guns but it pales in comparison to stocks, funds and REITs.
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Having absolutely no desire to becoming a "gun dealer" in the future I don't purchase firearms for resale: I have purchased multiple lowers in the past but only to build my various MSRs...
Probably too old (and too jaded?) to get into the FFL world now? Maybe a C&R...?
As far as 5% FDIC-insured CDs are concerned... Where do you get those?
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So, an unfired, NIB example of something current....
My best guesses here - the metal framed S&W M&P pistol.
- a Beretta 92X, or whatever it is with the slide mounted safety
- that Wilson Combat 9mm 1911-style pistol, without the grip safety
It's just really hard to say what might become valuable down the road, and what isn't.
I recently won some items at a consignment auction, and one of the pistols was an Astra A90 in 45acp. Like new condition, comes with the styrofoam box and cardboard sleeve, with serial on the sleeve. So for clarity- a LNIB pistol, all steel, that is over 20 years old, from a now-gone manufacturer.
My winning bid was $158.
Odds are, most guns you buy now would have the same fate- they just become "outdated", with no desire or interest in them.
The Astra, I have a passing interest in decent Spanish guns (Astra and Star), and I like Sigs (the A90 has a similar frame control setup).
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I would if it was Francisco Scaramanga's Golden Gun from the book, a gold plated 45 Colt Peacemaker.
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I can’t think of a contemporary Smith I’d buy.new for investment. If there is one, it’s not Tupperware.
High condition NIB pre 1982 Smiths and Colts are the best bets for handguns
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"Future Classics" in other words. Due to the gun laws here in Australia, generally it's going to have to fit within the barrel length restrictions as well was avoiding Calbres larger then .38 special / .357 mag and .357 Sig. (At least in the state I live in). Will also need to be useful for Target shooting as we don't have self-defense as a genuine reason for ownership.
* Colt 2020 Python
* S&W 686 Competition
* Thompson Centrefire G2/Encore - last of the new old stock
* Colt Gold Cup National Match
* Sig X5 P226
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Start by predicting what the gun laws will be in twenty years. Anti-gun laws and restrictions might make your gun and expected value worthless. I would choose the guns least likely to be banned which would be revolvers and .22 pistols and rifle. With semi-auto pistols constantly in danger of being banned demand is shifting to the basic .38/.357 revolver.
I in 100% confidence predict the effort to ban and own firearms will continue for the 20 years. The 2A hangs by a thread.
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As far as 5% FDIC-insured CDs are concerned... Where do you get those?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
My local bank, same place as my checking account. First Merchants Bank. 1 year CDs
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Garands and carbines. They’re value is only going up up up.
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