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Old 01-02-2024, 07:43 PM
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Talk me in to (or out of) a .30 Super Carry, specifally the Sheild Plus with 13 rounds. Onboard.

Is this a silly cartridge and gun combo? My local gun store had a ton of ammo on the shelf with most 9mm sold out.

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I would never talk anyone out of a new caliber...

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It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the current availability of .30 Super Carry ammunition is due to low adoption and is going to be temporary.
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There's nothing inherently inferior about the .30 SC, but my thinking is that its main appeal is to those who believe in having lots of rounds in a small package. Just like those who go GaGa over the FiveseveN.

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If I were looking for a new carry gun, I would definitely consider a .30 Super Carry.
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Glenn, I recently bought one to try. Grab a gun has them for $300, there was also a mail in rebate ( over now ). I've only put about 70 rounds through it, but it seems to shoot accurately & the 16 round mag gives enough grip length to get a good hold. Less recoil than the 9mm ( 1st gen) shield I shot. I'm a DA/SA guy but I'm trying these new fangled striker things, this has a decent trigger.
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[QUOTE=Glenn R. McMannly;141898413a .30 Super Carry,

Is this a silly cartridge and gun combo?.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I think it is. Larry
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I carried a Colt 38 Super for many years. When I shook the pistol it would rattle but was very accurate VS my Colt 45acp which was tight but not so accurate.
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It's not for me but if you like it go for it !

I'm a reloader and have thousands of 38/357, 9mm, 45ACP brass and so on and I've no desire to open another rabbit hole, LOL. I took the leap with the 10mm a few months ago but I was already partially set up from having 40 S&W stuff.
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Old 01-03-2024, 01:55 PM
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Talk me in to (or out of) a .30 Super Carry, specifally the Sheild Plus with 13 rounds. Onboard.

Is this a silly cartridge and gun combo? My local gun store had a ton of ammo on the shelf with most 9mm sold out.

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Certainly, the .30 Super Carry has received a lot of criticisms. Keep in mind that the cartridge is fairly new and recent and it hasn't been standardized yet. It's hard to tell what the future outcome will be. It's a bit of niche caliber for now. Just like the .327 magnum and .32 H&R.

As for the .30 Super Carry, it has all the ballistic qualities for self-defense. I don't think Smith would have just come up with an arbitrary caliber without a gel ballistics protocol. So yes, it's a formidable round for self defense so long as shot placement is priority number one.

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As for the .30 Super Carry, it has all the ballistic qualities for self-defense. I don't think Smith would have just come up with an arbitrary caliber without a gel ballistics protocol. So yes, it's a formidable round for self defense so long as shot placement is priority number one.
Right up there with the .45 GAP
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It's SUPER!!



What purpose does it serve? Any outstanding benefits over 9mm??
Kinda like when they came out with micro 9mm and then started making higher cap mags and optics ready. No longer micro!
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Right up there with the .45 GAP
.45 GAP
.40 S&W
.357 SIG
.356 TSW
.30 Super Carry

The above are highly formidable self defense calibers, but never surpassed the 9mm with acceptance and popularity in the long run. 9mm is king.

My colleagues use to give me grief back in the day for carrying 9mm. I balked the .40 S&W for good reason back then, and I still do. Now, they have come full circle, they dumped their .40s and started to carry the 9mm again... "Decades" later, I turned out to be right!

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A lot of good deals on used 40 cal guns and I've never seen a shortage of 40 ammo on the shelves, especially during Covid. Don't see it going away any time soon. If fact, we are still producing a lot of it. I actually shoot more of it in my 610s.
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Talk me in to (or out of) a .30 Super Carry, specifally the Sheild Plus with 13 rounds. Onboard.

Is this a silly cartridge and gun combo? My local gun store had a ton of ammo on the shelf with most 9mm sold out.

Thoughts?
There are no rules as to what caliber you should carry for self defense, so long as it's meets the minimum of being lethal. Yes, there are wild cat cartridges in that category, but most importantly it boils down to what best works for you. I am personally fond of the 9mm in the semi-auto and for other reasons not mentioned here. Ultimately, you have to decide. If you prefer the 9mm over the .30 Super Carry, then by all means stick with it, even though ammo is not available in your region. There is always mail order as a consolation to your situation. I would just think it through and through until you turn blue in the face and then you will arrive with your own conclusion.
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Its a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Sounds great now, but try to find ammo in a couple of years.

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The last weird caliber gun I bought was a Winchester model 70 in .25 WSSM. The round was great but I like to shoot and don't reload and ammo was expensive and hard to get so I sold it and it took a long time and a lower price to finally get a buyer. I took a chance on the 6.5 Creedmor when it was first starting to get popular but there were already several manufacturer's of reasonably priced ammo.
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There just hasn't been enough time to see if it will stick. That'd be my only concern.
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For it's worth, the .30 Super Carry is similar in ballistics to the old .30 Luger, which was a pretty hot number way back when. You don't have the issues of dealing with a bottleneck case with the .30 Super Carry.
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A guy that asks a bunch of other guys about buying a gun is looking for absolution not permission. More than enough wheels out there for me, not looking for another re-invented wheel. I just got my wife a shield plus with 2 extra 15 rnd mags so there goes the whole I got 13 30 Supercarry rounds.

You just need to ask yourself if you really want it or really need it and I am sure you will find the answer.
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I wish S&W would make a 30SC I or J-frame (moonclips for quick reloads), but I agree that it's unlikely to replace .32/.380/9mm in the little-gun market. Just because something might be better, doesn't mean it's going to replace the incumbents.
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Interesting... What's old is new again.
30 Peterson - 7.65 French Longe - 30 Super Carry. All similar but different power.

Maybe I will be able to adapt the brass for my SACM M1935A. (SIG 210's Grand Daddy)
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Hmmm
I just received a TK Custom catalog with an order I placed with them. As I was thumbing through the cool gunsmithing work offered, the rechambering revolver cylinders for auto cartridges got me thinking: Can they convert my 30-1 to 30 Super Carry while still being able to use 32 S&W and 32 H&R mag; unfortunately, I don't think the 30-1 can handle 45,000 psi.
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Hornaday stopped making Ruger 480 brass this year, 356 and 307 Winchester are tough to find brass or ammo, see above re the short magnums, Ruger 375 and 416 magnums and many others. Are you a reloader and prepared to invest in 700-100 cases? Go for it. Are you worried about resale in 5 years? It is marketed as a self defense weapon. What does it do from 15 feet that nothing else on the market does? If you think there is something unique about it go for it.
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But he's still dead.
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There just hasn't been enough time to see if it will stick. That'd be my only concern.
It's weinie that will never stick with me.........9mm is as low as I go on the weinie scale.
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