Milsurp 1917 Enfield value?

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Bought this 20 years ago when collecting milsurps. I am no expert on these. Never fired it


Specs

Win barrel dated Jan 1918
No import marks
RAP cartouche
Win receiver and barrel
Eddystone bolt
Mismatched small parts?
Obvious refinish


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CMP had a few to sell several years ago but ran out. The ones with Winchester or Remington receivers bring more money than the ones with Eddystone receivers. They usually sell for less than the 03-A3s that the CMP has sold recently. But like all milsurps a bit pricey these days. Probably find a few on GB to get an idea of current selling prices.
 
Skyhunter said:
That's easily a $1,000 to $1,300 rifle in my area.
Nice rifle in any case.

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Skyhunter
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With the refinish being so heavy in places as to obliterate the edges of the finger grooves, I think those numbers are hopeful. Sadly, this kind of "improvement" is the fate of many collectible rifles. That said, I would say this example would make $700 or more at auction simply because many have drunk the Winchester Kool-Aid. I can say that they are built like a brick outhouse and weigh about the same, lol.

In my experience the rebuild mark is actually unusual on Model 1917s. Mine doesn't have it, but I think it is an import. Sorry I cannot be more specific as the rifle is way in the back of the safe and I did not have/take detailed pictures of the markings.
 
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I must be living in the past. These re-build 1917's didn't bring more than a couple hundred dollars the last time I looked. I sold such a Winchester parts 1917 in very good condition with the British red painted forend several years ago. Should have held on for a few more years. I better get back to studying.
 
There were a few at the gun show I attended this weekend. Seemed to be in the 800-1000 range. I didn't look too close.
 
30-30remchester said:
I must be living in the past. These re-build 1917's didn't bring more than a couple hundred dollars the last time I looked. I sold such a Winchester parts 1917 in very good condition with the British red painted forend several years ago. Should have held on for a few more years. I better get back to studying.
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I've looked for a red striped M1917 for years. I've lost count of those I saw where the red paint used to be. Usually the forend ended up bleached by whatever paint remover the ignorant owner used, sometimes poorly disguised by a dose of tung oil. Alternatively, the wood was sanded to within an inch of its life. Either way, the collector value was destroyed.
 
LVSteve said:
I've looked for a red striped M1917 for years. I've lost count of those I saw where the red paint used to be. Usually the forend ended up bleached by whatever paint remover the ignorant owner used, sometimes poorly disguised by a dose of tung oil. Alternatively, the wood was sanded to within an inch of its life. Either way, the collector value was destroyed.
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Mine I bought about 18 years ago at a pawn shop in Chandler, Arizona. Shot it at our military rifle shoots, then got bored of it. I paid $275 for it and thought I had cut a fat hog when I sold it a couple years ago for $500. Mine, though a rebuilt was in superb shape. The red paint had faded to a kind of pinkish red but when it was applied it had been properly masked so the edges were square and looked pleasing. Some I see looks like it was done by a drunk racoon. Wish I had it back.
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Well, all I can say is that my grandfather bought a Winchester made 1917 Enfield (P17?) way back in the late 1940s, for $11. It was "government surplus".

John
 
30-30remchester said:
I must be living in the past. These re-build 1917's didn't bring more than a couple hundred dollars the last time I looked. I sold such a Winchester parts 1917 in very good condition with the British red painted forend several years ago. Should have held on for a few more years. I better get back to studying.
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Don't beat yourself up. Most of us remember being able to find 1917s, 03A3s, and Jungle Carbines for well less than 2 bills. Times have changed.
 
Here's a U-Tube video of old film. Mfg the M1917 (at Remington ?).
Interesting.
Spinning those recv'rs on pretty quick with that action wrench.
No wonder they have a tendency to be so tight.
..and never heard the term 'slush' before as a preservative. Kind of like
cosmolene I guess.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39wM-lzDWE4&t=5s[/ame]

It plays kind of fast. If you click on the 'Gear Wheel' (settings) in the lower right corner , then click Play Speed..you can slow it down to .5 or even .25 speed for a better look at what they are doing


Best one I ever had was a DCM Remington in about new condition. Bought at OGCA in the late 90's for $275 I think it was. That was about the limit for me on 1917's at the time. But it was special.
Times have changed. They always do.
My first one was an excl condi Eddystone. Straight Military with sling & 100rds of milsurp ammo in StripClips....$20
But that was 1963.
Yes times change
 
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