NEW HK P7s?

Glenn R. McMannly · Feb 9, 2024

Rumor is circulating that Heckler & Koch is planning on bringing out a run of their classic P7 squeeze cockers again. Specifically the M13. The gun supposedly will feature some modern enhancements such as ambi controls, optics cuts, and a picadilly rail for mounting a torch.

Seeing as originals are fetching well over $4000 on the open market this is interesting for sure.

Has anyone else read much about this?

ColbyBruce · Feb 9, 2024

I like the slim versions.

CH4 · Feb 9, 2024

Interesting. If I would have known, I would have taken time to stop by their booth at SHOT...assuming they had one.

That said, I've never been a fan. A few departments around here issued them, but they didn't last long. The officers didn't appreciate the loud click when cocking it, most thought they were butt-ugly and there weren't many choices for leather.

lowriderfxr · Feb 9, 2024

Glenn R. McMannly said:
Rumor is circulating that Heckler & Koch is planning on bringing out a run of their classic P7 squeeze cockers again. Specifically the M13. The gun supposedly will feature some modern enhancements such as ambi controls, optics cuts, and a picadilly rail for mounting a torch.

Seeing as originals are fetching well over $1000 on the open market this is interesting for sure.

Has anyone else read much about this?

I think that was a typo. Original P7M13s in nice condition are approaching 4K on the open market. I haven’t heard about them being reintroduced, but I’ll buy a bunch if they do.

petepeterson · Feb 9, 2024

I assumed you were going to say Girsan or Tisas was making them.

Glenn R. McMannly · Feb 9, 2024

lowriderfxr said:
I think that was a typo. Original P7M13s in nice condition are approaching 4K on the open market. I haven’t heard about them being reintroduced, but I’ll buy a bunch if they do.

Fixed, thank you.

Echo40 · Feb 9, 2024

I'd honestly rather they bring back the VP-70z and P9S.

forindooruseonly · Feb 9, 2024

I have a P7M8, if they reintroduce a M13 at a reasonable price (by H&K standards) and they are as well made as the originals, I would definitely buy one.

Remember, H&K hates you.

murphydog · Feb 9, 2024

Nice if true, but with the typical “aspirational” H & K retail pricing it will probably be a $5-6K gun.

alwslate · Feb 9, 2024

Many years ago A friend bought a P7 and loaned it to me for a test shoot. Stamped steel with open rough welds on the inside and an excessive price. Very hard to get used to compared to conventional guns. I wouldn't buy one if they were the same price as a Glock.

BLACKHAWKNJ · Feb 9, 2024

The NJ State Police adopted it in the 1980s, the troopers didn't like it, required an awkward and unnatural grip to draw, in addition they needed a heat shield in the top of the trigger guard, a long course of fire made for uncomfortable heat buildup.

Screwball · Feb 9, 2024

BLACKHAWKNJ said:
The NJ State Police adopted it in the 1980s, the troopers didn't like it, required an awkward and unnatural grip to draw, in addition they needed a heat shield in the top of the trigger guard, a long course of fire made for uncomfortable heat buildup.

I have never met a NJ Trooper who was issued a H&K and didn’t like them. Like to the point that they put it along side the SIG P228.

They had them from 1983 to 2000, fully switching to the P228. Prior to getting the SIGs and the failed attempt at the SW99, NJSP attempted to purchase replacement P7M8s from H&K. They stopped production by then.

A very good video regarding the H&K’s time with NJSP. And very accurate.

Procedures, Protests and Procurement of the Heckler and Koch P7M8 by the New Jersey State Police - YouTube

quikdraw67 · Feb 9, 2024

I had a P7 German Police surplus.

I really didn't care for it.

But, to each their own.

LVSteve · Feb 9, 2024

BLACKHAWKNJ said:
The NJ State Police adopted it in the 1980s, the troopers didn't like it, required an awkward and unnatural grip to draw, in addition they needed a heat shield in the top of the trigger guard, a long course of fire made for uncomfortable heat buildup.

You have to understand how Germans specify things to get why they didn't have a heat shield in the original design. I would bet that a German police "course of fire" rarely goes beyond a double tap. I doubt they are trained to keep whaling on the trigger as seems to be the way with most US LEO training.

Best example of this from years ago was an artillery location radar developed with Germany. Apparently, the spec said something like "75% availability in a 24 hour period". Unfortunately, the system got hot after about 3 hours of operation and then had to cool down for an hour before being used again. That meets the 75% requirement, but it doesn't mean you could run one for 18 hours continuously, which was the interpretation of one user country. German lawyers argued it met the spec, and I think they won.

I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing a PSP off CDNN 10-15 years ago.

gdogs · Feb 9, 2024

I can't see HK doing this... but who knows? I have a trade in PSP that I payed $500 for at the tail end of their importing. Wish I had a bought a few of them considering what they go for nowadays. You really have to shoot one to appreciate them - accurate/reliable/soft shooting, that said, for a single stack 9mm they are ridiculously heavy. I wouldn't see them being any more popular today than they were 30 years ago... and would for sure cost WAY more. I'd love to see a company like Girsan bring one to the market, but I doubt that would ever happen.

THE PILGRIM · Feb 9, 2024

A while back I passed on a West German Trade in.
Could have had it at my Buddy’s Wholesale cost.
Regret it because of the price run up, but the truth is -
I Didn’t like it!

murphydog · Feb 9, 2024

I have shot a P7M8, it is about the easiest 9 mm pistol to shoot - heavy, low bore axis, decent sights. A great beginner's gun for the caliber if you know how it operates.

Ματθιας · Feb 9, 2024

I have a P7 German police trade (NDS marked) low 4 digit serial that I picked up at a pawn shop for a ridiculously low price. Came with the box.

It's a beater. The side is discolored due to a thin finish and the are obvious machine marks on the trigger guard. But aside from the cosmetic issues, that thing will shoot! It's a laser! The fluted chamber making the brass stripy with power residue is cool, too!

The only thing I don't like about it is the heel mag release. Well, that and the staple gun grip safely.

offrdmania · Feb 9, 2024

Ill believe it when I see it. It must have come from the same rumor mill that said Glock was coming out with a 1911

Valmet · Feb 9, 2024

Neat guns for sure but I’ll never understand why some folks lose their minds over them and shell out thousands and thousands for them. Anything “new” by HK will be ludicrously expensive.

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