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Old 07-09-2024, 10:41 PM
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I see in another thread that most people here have lost their guns in a boating accident. But some did not. Does anybody have any experience with the rifle rod gun safe organizer system? I am asking for a friend.
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Old 07-09-2024, 11:02 PM
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I wonder what temperature the rods can handle before they melt?

In a typical house fire the temperature inside the safe can easily reach 300 degrees. Sometimes more if there are accelerants near by.

A quick search shows that polyethylene plastics melt below 300 degrees. Polycarbonate plastic just over 400 degrees.

The website doesn’t mention what type of plastic is used other than injection molding.

You might want to contact the manufacturer.
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Old 07-09-2024, 11:09 PM
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I use the rifle rod system in both my safes, I'm very satisfied. I used it because I needed to get as many rifles as possible into each safe. I attached the velcro sheet to the bottom of the upper shelf using spray trim adhesive. The instructions said to staple it but I wasn't convinced that would hold, that's why I glued it. You want the distance between the underside of the shelf and the muzzle to be as short as possible. The rods get a little whippy if too much is sticking out of the muzzle, I segregated my rifles into short and long, I put all the longer ones in one safe and the short ones in the other. The system I purchased was from Liberty Safes, I bought them off Amazon. The 20 rod system's I purchased were just under $80 each. I would never had been able to fit as many rifles into my safes if I hadn't used the rifle rods.
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I advise that you find a friend that is smart enough not to put guns in a boat if they do not have boating skills
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I don't have any and never seriously looked at them. I have a friend who likes and uses them in his safe but I really never had the need. Not saying they are bad - just never had the need to try them.
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Old 07-10-2024, 07:07 AM
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I’m another satisfied user. They’re a big help in maximizing space.
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I haven't seen one of these type safe's advertised for a long time. Not sure if they are even still made.
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I haven't seen one of these type safe's advertised for a long time. Not sure if they are even still made.
I haven’t EVER heard of them, and actually don’t even know what y’all are talking about!
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It's a system of rods that are inserted into the barrel of rifles or shotguns with a velcro covered flat tip exposed. A velcro pad is attached to the underside of the shelf of the safe, and the rod is extended to attach to the velcro covered shelf bottom. this allows the long guns to stand "very vertically" (if that's even a term), which maximizes storage space by eliminating the need to "lean" the guns for stability.
Some new safes may come so equipped but I've mostly seen the system sold as an "add on."

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It's a system of rods that are inserted into the barrel of rifles or shotguns with a velcro covered flat tip exposed. A velcro pad is attached to the underside of the shelf of the safe, and the rod is extended to attach to the velcro covered shelf bottom. this allows the long guns to stand "very vertically" (if that's even a term), which maximizes storage space by eliminating the need to "lean" the guns for stability.
Some new safes may come so equipped but I've mostly seen the system sold as an "add on."
Sounds like something I have no interest in trying , but if it works for others then that's cool .
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I use the rod system. It works well for me.
I put longer (taller) guns on one side and for shorter guns on the other side I place a box on the floor to raise the rifle to get the rod further into the barrel with little leaning.
Getting the box the correct height is the trick to master. I also reinforce the box.
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I see in another thread that most people here have lost their guns in a boating accident. But some did not. Does anybody have any experience with the rifle rod gun safe organizer system? I am asking for a friend.


FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!

If you get cork rifle rods your guns won't sink.............
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BTW, I have seen such systems in the Winchester gun safe warehouse in Mansfield, Texas.

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So I guess you remove the horizontal carpet-covered pieces that the rifles currently lean against. My old Liberty also has shelves, so without removing them too, I can’t see how it would allow me to put many more long guns in it than it is currently configured for.
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I like this approach much more than the idea of velcro holding my rifles apart. However, I went to storing most long guns in a rifle sock a couple years ago and wouldn’t be willing to give that up protection from “handling marks”.
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The actual Rifle Rods look like this.

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I haven't used the rifle rods, but I do use quite a few handgun hangers (from Gun Storage Solutions). These are similar to the rifle rods (vinyl covered metal rods), but they are designed to fit onto the shelves in your gun safe. Like others here on the Forum, I'm not sure how much heat the vinyl can take before melting inside the gun barrels. But the carpet and lining of the gun safe would probably melt if the vinyl coating on the rods melted.
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Old 07-10-2024, 08:41 PM
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My old Browning safe is for 22 long guns, removing the bolts and stacking close got 33 long guns in the same space. (50% increase!)

Lever action, falling block and rolling block are the easiest to stack close! Modern Sporting rifles are the worst, with chaise bolt actions right in that "Waste-a-space" category!

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I've got the Winchester rods and am satisfied with them. Certainly make for more room.
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I saw these after I bought my safe. Thought it was a good idea, but was unwilling to spend the money. I made my own from broken carbon arrows. I was able to find flat faced drawer pulls that screwed right into the inserts. A circle of velcro hook and they stick to the carpet inside.
Too big for 22's but handles most rifle calibers just fine.
An arrow with the fletching still on it fits in a shotgun barrel.
Works for me but YMMV.
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