1867 Swedish Rolling Block

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Another interest is old single shot rifles. Just got this one finished. Couldn't do much with the original chambering.

1867 Carl Gustaf Rolling Block that was 12.7mm x 44mm rimfire. Barrel liner to .44-40, case color receiver, rust blue barrel and parts, trigger job, peep sights, and a coat of varnish on the wood.

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The Vatican Swiss Guards used a variety of rolling block rifles chambered in 12.7x44 RF during the late 1860s. I think many of them were Belgian but not all. Allegedly their arsenal had about 15,000 of them. It is at least remotely possible it could have been a Papal Swiss Guard rifle as they were later dispersed widely. I have no idea how you could find out that information.
 
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The Vatican Swiss Guards used a variety of rolling block rifles chambered in 12.7x44 RF during the late 1860s. I think many of them were Belgian but not all. Allegedly their arsenal had about 15,000 of them. It is at least remotely possible it could have been a Papal Swiss Guard rifle as they were later dispersed widely. I have no idea how you could find out that information.

Thanks for that info - I have no idea what the history is on this rifle. Date on the receiver is 1875 and my understanding is the Model is 1867 but I could be incorrect. The gunsmith is highly respected in the single shot game and his opinion is it had never been fired.
 
Another interest is old single shot rifles. Just got this one finished. Couldn't do much with the original chambering.

... case color receiver, rust blue barrel and parts, ...
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That metal work is drop dead gorgeous! I swear, I think I could give you some of my Smith revolvers to make them look like that.
Blasphemy, I know, but I can imagine.
Thanks for sharing.
 
That metal work is drop dead gorgeous! I swear, I think I could give you some of my Smith revolvers to make them look like that.
Blasphemy, I know, but I can imagine.
Thanks for sharing.

The metal work is excellent but not my work. I purchased the rifle a few years ago but wanted to be able to use it so took it to Lee Shaver for the gunsmithing work.
 
Working on old Rolling Block rifles can get very pricy! I own two, One is a Spanish copy in 43 Reformado in very usable condition. The cartridge is similar to 43 Spanish. Reformado uses a.454" dia. 400 grain semi RN lead bullets. Cases are 57mm or 2 1/4" long. Around 70 to 80 grain FFg with wads and filler. Brass and reloading dies are readily available.

The other is a 40 year long project! Started as an Egyptian RB in 43 Egyptian. The poor barrel was too bad to do anything with including unscrew! Sawed off flush with front of action. Took a Dixie provided U.S. Navy surplus 50-50 (aka 50-45) barrel and turned off the threads, and Counterbored the old barrel stub. Silver soldered in place. I found an 1861 Springfield rear sight that fit the predrilled holes. Already had a very short blade front sight. Trim 50-70 brass from 1 3/4" to 1 5/16. I use a as cast 425 grain spitzer solid base with rubbed on SPG lube over 50 FFg Goex. Over the powder card and a 3/16" "cookie" of SPG lube.

First time I shot it I thought the light carbine would kick like my 45-70-400's! The full-size rifle butt plate made recoil similar to 44-40 in a lever carbine. (Surprisingly pleasant!) I'm still missing a forearm and the block & hammer pins retainer, but it works well!

Ivan
 
Working on old Rolling Block rifles can get very pricy! I own two, One is a Spanish copy in 43 Reformado in very usable condition. The cartridge is similar to 43 Spanish. Reformado uses a.454" dia. 400 grain semi RN lead bullets. Cases are 57mm or 2 1/4" long. Around 70 to 80 grain FFg with wads and filler. Brass and reloading dies are readily available.

The other is a 40 year long project! Started as an Egyptian RB in 43 Egyptian. The poor barrel was too bad to do anything with including unscrew! Sawed off flush with front of action. Took a Dixie provided U.S. Navy surplus 50-50 (aka 50-45) barrel and turned off the threads, and Counterbored the old barrel stub. Silver soldered in place. I found an 1861 Springfield rear sight that fit the predrilled holes. Already had a very short blade front sight. Trim 50-70 brass from 1 3/4" to 1 5/16. I use a as cast 425 grain spitzer solid base with rubbed on SPG lube over 50 FFg Goex. Over the powder card and a 3/16" "cookie" of SPG lube.

First time I shot it I thought the light carbine would kick like my 45-70-400's! The full-size rifle butt plate made recoil similar to 44-40 in a lever carbine. (Surprisingly pleasant!) I'm still missing a forearm and the block & hammer pins retainer, but it works well!

Ivan

The Rolling Blocks are neat old rifles. My other one is a .50-90 that I use black powder to load. Don't know what the receiver started life as because I bought it 15 - 20 years ago finished from the same gunsmith that did the Swede.

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I'm working up a smokeless powder load with jacketed bullets for the .44-40 to use for deer hunting. And I'm certain I've got more cash tied up in the Swede than it is worth but who's counting.
 
In the Buffalo Runner days, 50-90 was called "The Big 50". I have a friend with a Shiloe Sharpe's Big 50. With Long Range 550 grain bullets everybody sure knows when you pull the trigger. First the BOOOOM! Then the blizzard sized cloud of smoke. Then the loud grunt of the shooter. And somewhere the impact of that thumb sized hunk of lead: a big clang on steel, a big smack on flesh, or a big mush on a muddy hill side. Something like heavy 45-70 loads ONLY MORE SO. My Reformado is an early Spanish Military. The original ammo only had lead bullets (which turn white with age, The original 43 Spanish ammo came with a "Gilded" metal wash of brass. Which turns green with age. (the easy to tell them apart!)

I like the old single shot rifles! I have the following:

1873 Trapdoor Carbine (SN says one of 5 from 1875)

Spanish Reformado 1872

Egyptian receiver, in 50 Carbine

Martini Henry in 303 British (1903, Citadel)

Pre WWI Belgian Complain in 7x57

Shiloe Sharpe's 1874 45-70 (Framingham, NY circa 1974)

Rugar No1 in 7x57 pre 1976

Rugar No1 in 218 Bee circa 2005

I'm always on the lookout for an oddball single shot at a good price.

Ivan
 
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