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So are they shooting .22 rifles now? Because my grandchildren loved the .22 but not the shotguns even an old .410 that I thought was age appropriate.
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Mossberg O/U Shotguns
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So are they shooting .22 rifles now? Because my grandchildren loved the .22 but not the shotguns even an old .410 that I thought was age appropriate.
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Pete, I am fairly familiar with Mossberg's however not with their o/u version. I would suggest subscribing to "Target Focused" which is a Youtube channel that focuses on shotguns only. He reviews all brands and price point shotguns on a weekly basis. His name is Steve and he is one of the better and more honest reviewers IMHO. He might have even reviewed what you are asking about - and you can search for that on his channel.
I own a grade 2 Browning Superposed O/U and have shot it over the last 40 years for every type of shotgun sport, including hunting birds. It is my all time fav! Some of my friends own Citori O/U's and while they are made in Japan instead of Belgium like the old Superposes' were, they are still very nice guns! The advantage to buying something like the more expensive Citori (not crazy expensive) is that I'd expect it to hold its value way better than an o/u Mossberg, as Mossberg is not really "known" for their o/u guns - the Citori is and is respected as such.
If nothing else, you should definitely check out the YouTube channel I mentioned above - it might help you make a decision.
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This is a wise place to start. Single load most open choke on the singles. Lots of enablers at any skeet club I’ve ever been part of. They will let you shoot their guns to see if you like that particular one. If you are adverse to spending money don’t shoot anyone’s Kolar or Perrazi.
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Yildiz makes youth 20 ga o/u with short shock and 24 in bbls. Sold through Academy.
They are good guns for those of us who may run through a 100 rounds a year. I am not sure they are OK for 26 weeks a year of 100 rounds an afternoon.
The old ones were, but sadly the newer ones are a lower quality Turkish made import.
Do you know fact from fiction? Do you own a Yildiz? Have you ever shot a Yildiz?
Probably no to all 3 questions.
I own 3 Yildiz O/U's......In 12-20-410........Been using them for nearly 8 years now.......For Skeet(I own a field)...Doves-quail & Rabbits......NONE have ever had a problem.........I have friends that shoot the same guns....Again no problems.....SO why don't cha buy one.....Shoot it 8 years and report back here.
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There has been almost no mention of Mossberg O/Us in this thread except in the original post. I guess that says something about Mossberg O/Us. I had no idea Mossberg even marketed such guns.
I had one part. I wasn't impressed with the insides. It struck me like many of the other Turkish guns, nice looking, but not made for hard use.
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Read before you post. Start with Post #15.
Also, if you are really interested, go to Mossberg's web site and look it up.
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Ruger Red Label?
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I believe that there is a reason the Ruger is not in the shotgun business. I believe the Red Label was a part of that
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In the mid 90's I bought a used Red Lable. A very early blue steel receiver 26" Skeet 12 gauge, It had Briley Thin Wall Choke Tubes installed. My brother bought it for $250 and shot Sporting Clays for 2 or 3 months, I bought it for $275 and shot Sporting Clays for 1.5 months and sold it to an LGS for $400, it is still floating around Central Ohio!
The problem we experienced with it was it was "Butt Heavy" and just didn't follow through and hard crossing shots. If we had been in the Skeet sport it was a great gun. We estimated it had half a million rounds when I sold it!
Red Labels pivot on trunnions like a Berretta, but they are cast in the receiver instead of replaceable (like a Berretta). An old Red Label's lock-up is dependent on how well the various owners kept the trunnions greased! (something to look at on old Ruger shotguns!)
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BTW, I know of 3 older (1950's) Berretta SO (S= Side Lock O = Over/Under) shotguns with well over 1 million shots through them! If Berretta made a gun with their name on it, They WILL fix anything wrong or broken, JUST NOT FOR FREE!
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I read the posts. I said "almost" no mention of Mossberg O/Us throughout the posts. Yes, it's good to read before you post.
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A friend of mine had a 682 boxlock Beretta and started getting light strikes. Come to find out, the silver solder of the barrels to the mono block had broken down and the barrels were migrating forward. Beretta did not fix that, they sent him a new gun.
Berettas are nice guns, and I could not tell you about the high end stuff they make but the lower end stuff like the 682 did not have a very likable trigger group IMO
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.F. Mossberg & Sons Inc.
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Wed, Feb 26 at 8:16 AM
Good morning. The O/U shotguns are made in Turkey, by a company called Khan. We import the guns to sell under the Mossberg International line. There should not be any problems with that round count as long as proper maintenance and practices are used. The guns are serviced down in TX. Thank you.
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Anthony
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O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc.
I asked if they would take 2-300 target loads every week
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To:
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Wed, Feb 26 at 8:16 AM
Good morning. The O/U shotguns are made in Turkey, by a company called Khan. We import the guns to sell under the Mossberg International line. There should not be any problems with that round count as long as proper maintenance and practices are used. The guns are serviced down in TX. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Anthony
Customer Service Team
O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc.
I asked if they would take 2-300 target loads every week
For how many weeks????? Larry
Alton
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By 1989, over 90 percent of the company’s total production was based in Eagle Pass at its subsidiary facility Maverick Arms Inc., according to the American Rifle Man website.
In 2014, Mossberg decided to have a 116,000-square-foot expansion of the Texas factory after the state of Connecticut passed a gun-control bill that banned some of the company’s most popular products, according to a Forbes article.
I bought a 20 gauge O/U for the wife. Great looking gun but its no where close to my Browning 725 in quality, but no where in cost either. If your shooting 300 rounds a week I would think a nice shotgun would be in your hand while doing it.
In 2014, Mossberg decided to have a 116,000-square-foot expansion of the Texas factory after the state of Connecticut passed a gun-control bill that banned some of the company’s most popular products, according to a Forbes article.
I bought a 20 gauge O/U for the wife. Great looking gun but its no where close to my Browning 725 in quality, but no where in cost either. If your shooting 300 rounds a week I would think a nice shotgun would be in your hand while doing it.
We have had 2-3 come through in the past few years, I have no experience shooting them but the lock up felt cheap. I do know that one had a firing pin failure after only a few rounds. I would defiantly steer clear.
Pete, not to belabor the point, but Ivan the Butcher was absolutely correct regarding the Red Label. I bought one brand new back in 1988, still have it. Have shot thousands of rounds through it at skeet, sporting clays and bird hunting. It is still as tight as the day I bought it. Grease on the trunions is the correct answer.
OK, not trying to convince you to get one. However, since you mentioned that you do not reload, then "losing" empties should not be an issue for you. If you haven't already, take a look at a Remington 1100. Lots of them still in existence, including skeet models. IMO, one of the best autos ever made. And you should be able to find a good one for $600 to $700. There are several skeet grade 1100s listed on the big web site right now.
OK, not trying to convince you to get one. However, since you mentioned that you do not reload, then "losing" empties should not be an issue for you. If you haven't already, take a look at a Remington 1100. Lots of them still in existence, including skeet models. IMO, one of the best autos ever made. And you should be able to find a good one for $600 to $700. There are several skeet grade 1100s listed on the big web site right now.
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