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Today I went to my new gun club and brought 3 NIB handguns.

1. Tisas Stingray 9mm aluminum frame commander size1911

2. Dan Wesson PM-C * ( Carry ) 9mm commander size 1911

3, Dan Wesson Pointman 45 full size 1911

I started with the Tisas. Fit and finish looks great on the outside. Have not looked inside. From the factory, elevation is fine , windage is left of center. I will make that correction. The trigger is pretty good a little take up, small creep and let off 5-6 pounds I would say. On 2 occasions the gun stayed open on the last shot. The mags are horrible to load. A gritty feeling.. I tried a Dan Wesson mag, and it would not lock in. Upon getting home, I tried an Ed Brown Mag and it was fine. Got to try EB mags at the range. Dan Wesson mags are Metal Form I believe as are EDd Brown.

Feeding and ejection were perfect. I will repost on this after I try different mags

I will lump the 2 DW's into a common comment. Both performed perfectly. Triggers are 4-5 lbs. The slightest take up, and then let off. No creep felt. Sights were set perfectly at the factory. The slide release works like a jeweled watch. These are fine tuned, and without a doubt better than any Colt I have ever owned, and probably the 2 that I have yet to shoot. Worth the money... absolutely!

Oh, and my 17-3 that I have had and never used is a joy to shoot. I was hoping it did not have the tight cylinder and extraction issues. It doesn't
 
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Narragansett said:
Today I went to my new gun club and brought 3 NIB handguns.

1. Tisas Stingray 9mm aluminum frame commander size1911

2. Dan Wesson PM-C * ( Carry ) 9mm commander size 1911

3, Dan Wesson Pointman 45 full size 1911

I started with the Tisas. Fit and finish looks great on the outside. Have not looked inside. From the factory, elevation is fine , windage is left of center. I will make that correction. The trigger is pretty good a little take up, small creep and let off 5-6 pounds I would say. On 2 occasions the gun stayed open on the last shot. The mags are horrible to load. A gritty feeling.. I tried a Dan Wesson mag, and it would not lock in. Upon getting home, I tried an Ed Brown Mag and it was fine. Got to try EB mags at the range. Dan Wesson mags are Metal Form I believe as are EDd Brown.

Feeding and ejection were perfect. I will repost on this after I try different mags

I will lump the 2 DW's into a common comment. Both performed perfectly. Triggers are 4-5 lbs. The slightest take up, and then let off. No creep felt. Sights were set perfectly at the factory. The slide release works like a jeweled watch. These are fine tuned, and without a doubt better than any Colt I have ever owned, and probably the 2 that I have yet to shoot. Worth the money... absolutely!

Oh, and my 17-3 that I have had and never used is a joy to shoot. I was hoping it did not have the tight cylinders and extraction issues. It doesn't
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You have a revolver with more than one cylinder?
 
My two DW's (V-Bob and Guardian 45's) Have been flawless. The only wheely-guns I have with 2 cylinders are Colt SA .22's.....
 
Narragansett, you might want to disassemble the magazine, clean an lightly lube it as sometimes they are dirty from manufacturing. Many times a dry lube such as "One Shot" from Hornaday helps and because it's a dry lube and actually meant as a case lubricant for reloading, there won't be any issues with the lube on primers and will not collect more debris. After being cleaned and used a bit, the grittiness and difficulty loading them might go away. Good luck with your new toys!
 
chief38 said:
Narragansett, you might want to disassemble the magazine, clean an lightly lube it as sometimes they are dirty from manufacturing. Many times a dry lube such as "One Shot" from Hornaday helps and because it's a dry lube and actually meant as a case lubricant for reloading, there won't be any issues with the lube on primers and will not collect more debris. After being cleaned and used a bit, the grittiness and difficulty loading them might go away. Good luck with your new toys!
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Thanks Chief. I am going to take them apart, as well as the gun today. They really do feel terrible. It is a chore to get 5 into them, and I think they are 9 or 10. If they do not straighten out, I do have spare Ed Brown mags that should fill the bill. Other than not staying open consistently on the last shot, the Tisas is worth every nickel of the 419.00 it cost. I have a safe full of revolvers, but semi autos are what seems to drive me at the moment. Kramer leather for DW commander shipping Monday or Tuesday according to Kramer:D.
 
DW's are fine pistols. Near custom quality. As an aside, at least as far as I can recall, the Sig 1911s are produced at the same factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, it's been known to happen!
 
Narragansett.
I will second chief38's recommendation for using Hornady's Cleaner & Lube for magazines. I will make one correction however. Hornady makes 2 products under the "One Shot" branding. One is a case Lube for resizing cases (you DO NOT want for this purpose) and the other, (the one you DO want) is marked as "Gun Cleaner & Lube, Product #99901.
I have used this product or the old Remington Dry Lube in my pistol & rifle magazines for over 30 years with excellent results.
 
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I got a Tisa around Xmas when they were on sale . Mine's a 5in with a 9mm and a 38Super barrel . Haven't shot the 9mm , I have a few PC guns and an Sig P210 for that . The 38Super barrel is really accurate , I was impressed considering it was less than $420 . Never tried the mags , when I got my 1911-2 38Super PC , I got some CM mags .
 
I've not had any issues with my Tisas mags, 9mm or .45. Might just be a burr on the follower that needs to be stoned off or worn in.

I am not a fan of any kind of lube in magazines. In my experience, it's unnecessary, and simply leads to more necessity for cleaning.
 
Rodan said:
I've not had any issues with my Tisas mags, 9mm or .45. Might just be a burr on the follower that needs to be stoned off or worn in.

I am not a fan of any kind of lube in magazines. In my experience, it's unnecessary, and simply leads to more necessity for cleaning.
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I agree, could be a bad follower or even an out of spec spring and lubricants have no place inside a magazine or inside a firing pin tunnel.
 
OK, back to the range yesterday with the Tisas Stingray 9mm.

First off, I took it apart, and cleaned and lubicated the slide and other components. I took the supplied mags apart, and cleaned them good. They were kind of sooty from the manufacturing process. Put them back together, with no lubrication. I fired about 75 rounds, and operation was flawless. I also tried 5 Ed Brown Magazines and they were perfect.

This is a lot of gun for 489 OTD inclusive of tax and shipping
 
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