*Survival Rifles* Got One? What's yours?

I have a few that qualify.
A Savage 24 C DL that is 22 WMR/20 Ga 3” that is good for any edible game animal that is in my area. I carry 30 rounds of 22 WMR and 20 rounds of mixed 20 ga shells from #6 to Slugs along with a cleaning kit in a takedown case.

The next is an older H&R Handy Gun II with a 22 Hornet and 20 barrel in a take down case with a similar mix of ammo to the Savage 24.

I consider these to be more of a carry in the boat, truck, tractor firearms to take care of vermin and to be ready for unexpected hunting opportunities.

I also have an ancient, but very serviceable JP Sauer Drilling in 9.3x72R over 16 SxS barrels. If I could obtain a 22 lr insert for the rifle barrel it would do for everything I will encounter.
 
MP-5 said:
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I just bring Chuck on all my camping trips!
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And Chuck Norris can start a fire with a magnifying glass. At night.

16x16/8x57R. Birdshot, buckshot and a full power rifle. And it breaks down into two shorter pieces.
 

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A quick tip for Papoose owners, especially the stainless version.

If you do any extended shooting you know the bbl nut will back off and loosen up. A simple hack takes care of having to keep cranking down with the spanner wrench.

Simply wrap the threads with the white silicon plumbers tape (I keep one in the case with the rifle). With the tape, just snugging it up tight, without needing to crank on the spanner, will see you through extended shooting sessions.

What amazes me is, not one of the many Youtube 'tests', or, evaluations mentions this simple solution. But, most mention the nut working loose. Go figure!

Rob
 
Savage 24. 22 MAG over 410

Recently picked this up at a local gun store. Very nice handy gun. Breaks down to duffel bag size and carrying lots of ammo doesn’t break your back. I had to put peep sight on it for my old eyes.

Older one with walnut wood.

My boy has a couple of the 10-22 takedowns in their back packs

I have been looking for a savage 357/20 for years, but either don’t have cash when they appear or the price is outrageous

Good hunting

Kelly
 
wetdog1911 said:
A quick tip for Papoose owners, especially the stainless version.

If you do any extended shooting you know the bbl nut will back off and loosen up. A simple hack takes care of having to keep cranking down with the spanner wrench.

Simply wrap the threads with the white silicon plumbers tape (I keep one in the case with the rifle). With the tape, just snugging it up tight, without needing to crank on the spanner, will see you through extended shooting sessions.

What amazes me is, not one of the many Youtube 'tests', or, evaluations mentions this simple solution. But, most mention the nut working loose. Go figure!

Rob
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While I haven't had this issue so much with mine, it is a great idea. I've got a couple of rolls of that Teflon tape and will slide one into the case! Thanks for the tip!!

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Here is what I would want for minimal survival gear. A good fixed blade knife with a bout a 6-8" blade, a fire piston, a 10'x10', sheet of visqueen, my 4" kit gun, 50' of good 1/8" cable. 100yds of 20# mono and some #2 hooks. A one gallon steel pot.

Visqueen- dig a wide hole a ft of more deep. Put your pot in the center. Put visqueen over it and you have a solar still. Stick anything with moisture in it under the visqueen, dirty water salt water, weeds what ever. Heat will condensate moisture which will collect on plastic run to low spot in center caused by rock and drip in pot. Drinkable water.
If it rains it will both collect water and keep me dry.

Cable means snares which hunt 24x7. Don't need clips as you can make a look with a simple double loop. So does mono and hooks as well as set lines for fish Way better than hunting. A baited hook set to be about 6' under water will also catch and drown ducks. Survival isn't about sport.

A fire piston works. Better than flint and steel, not as fragile as a magnifying glass and no sun needed.

A 22 wins because of ammo weight. A carton of 500 weighs a less than 250 223s and less than 50 shotgun shells

I can boil water in the pot, make stew and soups.
 
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See, this is where things have gone off the rails.

The "survivalists" and preppers with their "SHTF" rifles have co-opted the term by association.

The discussion used to be based around a light, compact, easy to stow and carry rifle that could be used to help you survive in the wild by enabling you to hunt small and medium game while you either await rescue or walk out to civilization.
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I'm inclined to agree that there is a difference between a survival firearm and a SHTF weapon, although their may be situations where the line is fuzzy.

A survival firearm may have different requirements based on region of the country you're located in and the geopolitical situation, i.e, city, suburban, rural, or remote.

For me and my location, I'm thinking I'd more likely experience a failure in infrastructure and since I consider my area rural, the survival description from BB57 above is as good a description as any. As a result, I think I agree with many who have already posted that a good .22LR rifle fits many of the needs, and as already noted by several it's hard to beat a Ruger 10/22, especially the takedown model. I know my 10/22 Takedown LITE has proven to be quite accurate and reliable and the screw on HTA SS suppressor would prove to be quite handy as well.

I used to would have added that with a .22LR you know ammo would not be that difficult to come by, but I think we've proved that's not necessarily true any longer.

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The Winchester Model 60A

I'm with the posters to whom a "survival gun" is meant to feed one's self and family from small game. And as far as shot discipline goes, the single shot is the best way that I know of.
 

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I admit I used to have a Savage 24 .22LR/20 gauge as a “survival gun” in my rig when I roamed the wilds of Montana, Idaho, and New Mexico. Then I realized if I did break an axle or something far from help my first instinct would not be to go small game hunting, especially since I had a week’s worth of MREs with me.

Now the survival gun in my rig is an old evidence room 12 gauge JC Higgins pump. It cost me 75 bucks. I have a bandoleer of OO buck and rifled slugs. No bird shot.

Its the top one. I had to give the other one back when I retired.
 

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Surprised no one has mentioned a Kel Tec sub 2000.I can carry it in a lap top case.4 32 rd glock mags fit nicely in the front pocket.A 17+2 mag in the grip makes a pretty compact package.A hunting companion carried one in the over head compartment of his rig for years until he retired.
 
The "takedown AR" is a Marck -15 or HYDRA from MGI Industries. The case is slightly longer than 17" diagonally, and about the thickness of a double pistol case. You drop the mag, clear the chamber, flip the switch and pull out the barrel and separate lower from scoped upper and fit them into case. Along with a 556 and 300BO barrel, are magazines, suppressor, and suppressor adaptor so you can use 30 cal can on 223 rifle. They have options to switch to 22 LR, 7.62 X 39, 458 socom, 25-45,6.8 spc, 6.5 grendel, 450 thumper, 9mm,5.45 x 39. Of course you would need mags, new bolts for the other calibers, but the 556/300 BO only need the barrel change. You can go from cased to firing in about 2 minutes, with practice. I have had it for a number of years, and it holds it's zero from disassembly to assembly, out to angle of deer with 300 BO subsonic, and 223/300 BO supersonic, I have not pushed it further. In a survival/ SHTF situation, I believe low profile and quiet is the way to go.
Here is a link to their site. mgi-military.com. Be Safe,
 
11-111 Savage Long Range 338 Lapua Magnum for me. Not quiet but excellent for 'long range survival' as in out to 1500 yards. No point in getting close up and personal anyway. Had a .50 Barrett but was just too heavy. I like big magnum cannons.
 
Depends on what you’re surviving from. I guess I’d go with one of my Flat top AR15s with detachable optics, open sights and both 223/556 and .22lr BCGs. However, a Savage 24 of some form would be interesting.
 
To me a survival situation is where I need to live off the land for a period of time. You can go with out for for a week or so, and that means if I need a gun its longer than that. Shotguns are nice hard to miss kill almost anything close. But the ammo is heavy and the range is short. 22s win simply because of the ammo's lack of weight and bulk. I can get a couple of good hits in with a 22 at 100 yds, impossible with a shot gun.

But, snares, dead falls and the like are far more effective than hunting. Given the choice between a 22 rifle and the same weight in 3/32 "or 1/8" cable snare cable, I would take the cable every time. It is going be working 24 hours a day every day even when I am sleeping.
 
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"survival gun" = put food in your belly when out in the wild (at least my interpretation)

anyone have experience w one of these?
at -$300 and readily available , look really cool to me......
Henry AR-7
8+1
16.5" broken down @ 3.5lbs

OP - Thanks for posting this thread. I just talked myself into a new Christmas present
 

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