If you have a .45 ACP and .44 Mag is there a need for a .45 Colt?
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m657
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Regardless of one's other trinkets, without a proper 45LC all really IS darkness and chaos....IMHO....
LouisianaJoe
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Most guns that I buy are for the pleasure of shooting. There is a lot more variety of pleasure available to me from different calibers of guns than there are other pleasures in life.
I have a Vaquero with both 45 colt and 45 ACP cylinders. I shoot better with the 45 Colt in it.
I also have a Redhawk 454 with a scope on it. I shoot better with it shooting 45 Colt at ranges 50 yds or less and I shoot better with 454's at longer ranges.
My 460 shoots 300 gr 454's with less recoil than the Redhawk and is very accurate with them.
My point here is that guns that shoot more than one caliber give you more variety and pleasure.
There are more calibers available that also shoot the 45 Colt.
I have a Vaquero with both 45 colt and 45 ACP cylinders. I shoot better with the 45 Colt in it.
I also have a Redhawk 454 with a scope on it. I shoot better with it shooting 45 Colt at ranges 50 yds or less and I shoot better with 454's at longer ranges.
My 460 shoots 300 gr 454's with less recoil than the Redhawk and is very accurate with them.
My point here is that guns that shoot more than one caliber give you more variety and pleasure.
There are more calibers available that also shoot the 45 Colt.
I have 2-45 semi autos, 3-44 mags and 1-45colt with the extra acp cylinder so I guess I have 3 acp's total. Guess I need another 45colt or two to even it out.
Need is never a factor,wants are what it is about.
Need is never a factor,wants are what it is about.
Snapping Twig
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Do you NEED a cartridge that was developed for the Army with the mandate to penetrate a horse and kill the man hiding behind it at 100 yards?
I think you know the answer.
Besides, if you reload and use cast 255g SWC and Unique, load 8g you get 800fps, 8.5g and you get 850fps, 9g gives you 900fps, and so on. Pretty nifty, eh?
Remember, the .45Colt does this w/o being a magnum.
I think you know the answer.
Besides, if you reload and use cast 255g SWC and Unique, load 8g you get 800fps, 8.5g and you get 850fps, 9g gives you 900fps, and so on. Pretty nifty, eh?
Remember, the .45Colt does this w/o being a magnum.
Actually, it isn't needed. It is REQUIRED.
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I think it should be mandatory that every American own at least two 45colt revolvers, one for each hand. Why? Because they are so darn sweet to shoot, and put such a nice big hole in whatever you point them at. 45acp is nice in a revolver, but 45colt is glorious. The recoil is pleasant, the report is not overly loud or sharp, the available range of loads is broad, and they are so darn sweet to shoot, (wait, I already said that).
I respect every mainstream cartridge from 17hmr thru 500s&w, and can understand the purpose and appeal of each. That being said, the two closest contenders for the 45colt throne are the 45acp and the 44special. The 41mag and the 44mag are great, but don't try shooting them without hearing protection while hunting or you may as well shove a knitting needle in your ear. Plus, the larger magnum cartridges have a tendency to rattle loose Smith revolvers unless you shoot lower power loads the majority of the time. If you have to shoot a lower power load, it ain't a magnum, and you just went down to 44special or 41 special.
I don't own a 44special, but enjoy the cartridge. It would be truely great if it came in 45 cal. (hardy har har). The 45acp is a beautiful thing in a revolver, and moon clips reload faster than anything, but I hate walking in the woods with a pocket full of loaded moon clips, (like walking around with a spare can of vienna sausages in your pocket) and half moon clips are only half as good. The only thing I like about semi-autos is that the slim single stack clip is a beautiful shell holder for you pocket. Give me a 45colt, a pocket of loose shells, and a crisp autumn morning, and I am happier than a bear in a beehive. Another thing I dislike about the 45acp revolver is the huge jump to the barrel forcing cone that the bullet has to make. I'd like to see a 45acp revolver with a frame sized to accept a 45acp cylinder that is sized to accept 45acp shells without the mile wide jump. I know the 45colt fills this gap with largely empty case area, but at least the shells look right for the gun, and they're nice and big and purty.
I like the 45colt and the 45-70. Both have more than 100 years of proven dependability, and both do the job without a lot of shock and awe. I used to like shock and awe, but now I can't hear and my carpal tunnels are the size of a pinhole. Give me a big, slow moving hunk of lead, any day.
I have to go try to buy another 45colt. Thanks for indulging me.
Hastings
I respect every mainstream cartridge from 17hmr thru 500s&w, and can understand the purpose and appeal of each. That being said, the two closest contenders for the 45colt throne are the 45acp and the 44special. The 41mag and the 44mag are great, but don't try shooting them without hearing protection while hunting or you may as well shove a knitting needle in your ear. Plus, the larger magnum cartridges have a tendency to rattle loose Smith revolvers unless you shoot lower power loads the majority of the time. If you have to shoot a lower power load, it ain't a magnum, and you just went down to 44special or 41 special.
I don't own a 44special, but enjoy the cartridge. It would be truely great if it came in 45 cal. (hardy har har). The 45acp is a beautiful thing in a revolver, and moon clips reload faster than anything, but I hate walking in the woods with a pocket full of loaded moon clips, (like walking around with a spare can of vienna sausages in your pocket) and half moon clips are only half as good. The only thing I like about semi-autos is that the slim single stack clip is a beautiful shell holder for you pocket. Give me a 45colt, a pocket of loose shells, and a crisp autumn morning, and I am happier than a bear in a beehive. Another thing I dislike about the 45acp revolver is the huge jump to the barrel forcing cone that the bullet has to make. I'd like to see a 45acp revolver with a frame sized to accept a 45acp cylinder that is sized to accept 45acp shells without the mile wide jump. I know the 45colt fills this gap with largely empty case area, but at least the shells look right for the gun, and they're nice and big and purty.
I like the 45colt and the 45-70. Both have more than 100 years of proven dependability, and both do the job without a lot of shock and awe. I used to like shock and awe, but now I can't hear and my carpal tunnels are the size of a pinhole. Give me a big, slow moving hunk of lead, any day.
I have to go try to buy another 45colt. Thanks for indulging me.
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I absolutely have a need for a .45 Colt 'cause I have set of RCBS dies and no revolver! Those dies have been collecting dust since I sold that early model Contender in .45/.410 - the one with the octagonal barrel and screw on choke tube. What a totally impractical idea that was!
HaHa. You sound like me. I thought that I thought I knew what I was doing when I said "I'll take it" to SEVERAL, let me say it again, SEVERAL rounds of ammo only to find out that I leapt before I looked and payed way too much and it wasn't even the caliber I THOUGHT it was. The only logical thing to do was buy a gun that would shoot it! I knew I'd never find another idgit like me to reimburse me for my ignorance
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HaHa. You sound like me. I thought that I thought I knew what I was doing when I said "I'll take it" to SEVERAL, let me say it again, SEVERAL rounds of ammo only to find out that I leapt before I looked and payed way too much and it wasn't even the caliber I THOUGHT it was. The only logical thing to do was buy a gun that would shoot it! I knew I'd never find another idgit like me to reimburse me for my ignorance
Now here is a perfectly good example of why we should shift to all 45colt and save ourselves a ton of disappointment and confusion.
Seriously, been there, done that. It's hard to pass up a deal on ammo, even if you don't have a gun to feed it to. Sooner or later a gun in that cartridge will smell all that food and come sniffin' at your door.
That's pretty good. Most of my 44 Magnum shooting is done with a 250-275 gr cast bullet at 900-1000 FPS. The 45 Colt will do this in an S&W revolver, with a little more cross-sectional area. All just so much jabber. Sonny said it best.
The .45 Colt is powerful enough to do most jobs generally ceded to the .44 magnum, without being unpleasant to shoot. More of a shove than a kick in recoil. It's easily reloaded with a wide variety of bullets and powders. 255-grain Keiths at @ 1,000 fps will do about anything you can ask. Oh, and Wyatt Earp used it.
Smith & Wessons chambered in .45 Colt ring my chimes. Here's a few:
Smith & Wessons chambered in .45 Colt ring my chimes. Here's a few:
jed
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Need for 45 lc
i had a 45 lc revolver and a 44 mag revolver. I sold the 45 lc. There was no need for me to be reloading both calibers and I like the 44 better for reloading and shooting.
jed
i had a 45 lc revolver and a 44 mag revolver. I sold the 45 lc. There was no need for me to be reloading both calibers and I like the 44 better for reloading and shooting.
jed
Centenniel
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Of course! No revolver collection could be considered even remotely complete without a good 45 Colt chambered handgun.
USAF385
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I'm looking to buy the 5 inch 460V....
I don't think that will count though, will it? Shooting .45s from it I mean.... I think I'll need a separate revolver in .45 in order for it to count.
I don't think that will count though, will it? Shooting .45s from it I mean.... I think I'll need a separate revolver in .45 in order for it to count.
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