Finally found a K-22!

Rangerone

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Well, after perusing many gun shows and auctions sites, I finally found a very nice K-22. As is required by the forum, I am posting pictures of my newest acquisition, and of course I have a few questions...

When I picked this one up off the vendors table, I was immediately struck by the figure in the grips and by how good a condition they were in. The dealer happily obliged me when I asked to remove the grips so that I could see if they were serial numbered to the gun, and if there was any rust beneath them. Surprisingly, they were numbered properly to the gun, and the bluing beneath the grips was perfect. There was a slight chip out of the upper part of the right panel, but otherwise they were a perfect fit. The action was a bit gritty, but the lockup on all six cylinders was vault tight. The scratch line was just that, a scratch with no furrow. The locking bolt recesses were sharp.

There was quite a bit of lead buildup around the breech, however a bit of work with the dental picks removed all of it in short time. There was only one dry fire mark on the face of the cylinder. The individual chambers and bore are mirror shiny, the muzzle unblemished. I took the gun completely down to the smallest parts and scrubbed everything. It was obvious that the side plate had never been removed. All of the screws were pristine.

The only two defects I could see are that someone tried to remove the small pin at the frame/breech and marked the frame on the right side, and that the small pin that secures the front sight base is missing. The base itself is smooth on all sides and is lodged firmly in its base, so I don't believe it has ever been removed.

All of the serial numbers match: the main number on the butt of the gun is K1904XX, with the same number repeated on the cylinder, crane, grips and barrel.

Accuracy wise, so far I am happy. I shot a few cylinders full on my indoor range and at 25 feet, all shots nearly touching. Given what I have read of the accuracy of these guns, that is (happily) the norm.

And now, a few questions...

Does anyone have an idea of the approximate date of birth?

If you owned this gun, would you letter it?

On the right side of the barrel is the standard ".22 LONG RIFLE CTG". At the very beginning and at the end is some type of a cross symbol. Is there any significance to this or is it simply part of the caliber designation?

Where can I purchase a correct pin for the front sight base?

The owner wanted $500 for it: I offered less and we met at $480. We were both happy at the time, and after I have cleaned this beautiful piece up and fired it, I am now ecstatic.

K-22 goodness...
 
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Yeah, "ecstatic" is the appropriate response. Excellent gun, excellent price.

That serial number puts it in 1953, probably late summer or fall. I have K196446, and that shipped late in the year.

Major congratulations are in order. You scored a nice one.
 
Congratulations! I especially like the grain in the stocks - very fancy for S&W stocks...:)
 
I love a K22 and the Model 17 up to the -4. That's a great looking K22 and it has beautiful grips. I wouldn't spend the money to letter the gun if it were mine. I have a K22 made 1955 and it's a terrific shooter.
 
I appreciate the comments. I am quite happy with this gun. I may indulge and look for some target style grips, or at least a T-grip adapter for now. I never could get used to the skinny stocks on a K frame.

Are there any members here who specialize in target grips? Any recommendations?

Now, I need a holster fit for this nice piece, probably a crossdraw.

Under what circumstances do you generally feel a factory letter is warranted?
 
Under what circumstances do you generally feel a factory letter is warranted?

There are few hard and fast rules. What I've found is most letters on post war guns are just a waste of money. Believe me, I've wasted my fair share.

You have a very nice gun, but understand its not a rare of unusual configuration. On the ones that are, the factory letter confirms the features are factory original (or not.) Most K22s came out with the same options as yours. There is little to be gained by the letter.

What you're doing with a factory letter for a 1950s gun is playing the lottery hoping yours isn't one of the hundreds of thousands that went to distributors or hardware stores. There remains a remote possibility it went to some famous (or infamous) person directly. To me, its not worth the $50 bet.

And don't let anyone near those grips... :D
 
On the factory letter, I make it a practice to letter any collector-quality gun I get that was manufactured before WW2. Shooter-grade prewar guns I don't bother to letter. Some postwar guns are worth lettering if they are scarce or NIB. I haven't yet lettered a model-marked gun (1957 or later), and probably wouldn't.

In general, lettering a gun of recent manufacture will get you the shipping date and the identity of a recipient firm -- this or that hardware store in such and such a city -- but not the name of the original individual purchaser. The letters also include some historical boilerplate about the origin and development of the particular model in question, but that type of information is available from other sources.

I have a couple of non-model-marked postwar K-22s like yours that I don't plan to letter They are great guns, but the comparatively large production of this model means I wouldn't get much more than a specific date and delivery firm/city for them. I'm not sure knowing that would add anything to my appreciation of them. If that information interests you, by all means get the letter. I'm just describing my approach, not trying to set policy for others.
 
I agree that lettering a common gun like this one is probably a waste of $50. I have only lettered two: my grandfather's Model 19, and the Model 14 I recently acquired. The first was purely emotional since it belonged to him, and the second was plain curiosity.

And no, no one is getting these grips.

Are there any members here who specialize in grips or Tyler adapters? I know I can buy these elsewhere, but I would prefer to support a member here, especially given all of the great information I have gleaned in a short time.

Thank you.
 
FWIW, I recently picked up one exactly like yours, same condition, from a Ma&Pa vendors table at a gunshow, dated to 1948. I paid $425 and was pleased as punch.
Don't you love the "fishhook hammer"?
Ya done good.:D
 
I agree that lettering a common gun like this one is probably a waste of $50. I have only lettered two: my grandfather's Model 19, and the Model 14 I recently acquired. The first was purely emotional since it belonged to him, and the second was plain curiosity.

And no, no one is getting these grips.

Are there any members here who specialize in grips or Tyler adapters? I know I can buy these elsewhere, but I would prefer to support a member here, especially given all of the great information I have gleaned in a short time.

Thank you.

There have been plenty of K frame target grips in the classified lately and you can post a want to buy a set of K target grips. If you want period correct ones they will be harder to get and more costly because they will have the diamonds around the screw holes.
 
I just removed the nice looking (not nearly as nice as yours) numbered to the gun diamond magnas off my 1947 production year K-22 and replaced them with a set of target grips I got from forum member VM. If I didn't have the proper numbered grips, I would try to find a set of diamond targets of the proper time frame. My gun is a shooter grade, and the grips are the "nicest" thing about it, so I put them in the safe. The target stocks "shoot" better than the magnas, even with a T-grip.
 
For range work and shooting where you might get grips scratched I would buy a set of newer target grips. I have a set of S&W combats on mine but they are also expensive.
1955 K22
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For range work and shooting where you might get grips scratched I would buy a set of newer target grips. I have a set of S&W combats on mine but they are also expensive.

I have seen many of those same grips on many a gun show table and never gave them a second look...

I will now.
 
I have seen many of those same grips on many a gun show table and never gave them a second look...

I will now.

Try your hand around them before you buy some. I find them about the most uncomfortable finger-groove grips I've ever tried. Apparently however, some people seem to like them. :) YMMV.
 
What a find! Especially for your first K-22. I'm very impressed with the grips, like everyone else. You should have bought a lottery ticket that day. Congratulations on the gun and welcome to the K-22 club.
 

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