Welfare recipients "stray animals"

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The lieutenant governor of South Carolina is taking heat for comparing people on government assistance to "stray animals" and saying the government should stop "feeding" welfare recipients who do not meet certain requirements because "they breed."

Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, a Republican, was arguing for fundamental changes to welfare to break the "cycle of dependency" at a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn, S.C., on Friday, when he said:

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. ...

"They will reproduce," Bauer said, "especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better."

The remarks set off a firestorm in the Palmetto State. "Everyone should be offended at the comparison of our school children to stray animals," House Democratic Leader Harry Ott said in a statement released over the weekend. "Mr. Bauer should immediately apologize to the people of South Carolina for these remarks."

Bruce Ransom, a political science professor at Clemson University's Strom Thurmond Institute, called the comments "shocking" and said they do a disservice to the thousands of welfare recipients who are in dire need of government help.

"There are many people who legitimately need that assistance," Ransom told FoxNews.com. "He's not only saying that they (welfare recipients) are dependent, but that they're undeserving."

While Bauer raised a "legitimate argument," Ransom said, "he didn't need to compare those individuals to stray animals."

"The way he framed his points was terrible," he said.

In an interview with FoxNews.com, Bauer, a second-term lieutenant governor who is running to succeed Gov. Mark Sanford in November, said he didn't intend to offend anyone. But he acknowledged he could have found better words to convey his meaning.

"The metaphor I used was well-intended," he said, "Will I use it again? No. Do I wish I had used a better one? You betcha I do."

Bauer has called for welfare recipients to receive mandatory drug tests and to attend parent-teacher conferences if they have children in school. Parents whose children benefit from subsidized school lunches should stop receiving government assistance if they fail to attend such meetings, he says.

The lieutenant governor said he intended in his remarks to stress the need to "break cycles of dependency." He said he was approached afterward by a black minister who asked him to he deliver the same speech at his church.

"He said 'you are right on the money,'" Bauer told FoxNews.com. "This was a diverse crowd and nobody there had a problem with the message.

"We've got to really look at every dollar we're spending. A hand-out is basically relief without any demand for change," he said.

Bauer also addressed public criticism of his remarks in a posting on his Facebook page Saturday.

"At a forum this week, I spoke out in favor of finding ways to break the government's cycle of handouts and dependency," Bauer wrote. "I believe government is 'breeding a culture of dependency' which has grown out of control, and frankly, amounts to little more than socialism, paid for by hard-working, tax-paying families."

"I feel strongly that we can and should help our neighbors who are truly needy," he added, "However, there's a big difference between being truly needy and truly lazy."

Bauer wrote that he will continue to push for such requirements even if they are perceived as "politically incorrect" by the media.

The U.S. Census Bureau reports that roughly 15 percent of South Carolinians live below the poverty line. As of October 2009, about 20,648 South Carolina families were listed as welfare recipients -- totaling $3,979,701 in government assistance, according to the South Carolina's Department of Social Services. That figure is an increase from 2008, when 16,382 were listed as receiving cash assistance from the government.

The Associated Press reported that Bauer, who comes from working-class roots and who grew up in a single-parent household, benefited from subsidized school lunches himself.


The mans got a point.
 
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What he says is true. The gov caused this whole welfare mess and we get to pay for it. Money is not the only way we pay, we pay in higher crime, low education levels and probably a 100 other ways also.

Of course some people need help maybe thoughout their entire lives, but most on welfare are just lazy, stupid or plain just don't any other way of life. Must be very sad to go through life being a welfare dependent.
 
Bauer has called for welfare recipients to receive mandatory drug tests and to attend parent-teacher conferences if they have children in school. Parents whose children benefit from subsidized school lunches should stop receiving government assistance if they fail to attend such meetings, he says.
The man is obviously a nutcase.......

Brian~
 
"A hand-out is basically relief without any demand for change"

Bingo. And if we don't demand change, we'll never see it. Similar comments are being made about Haiti. We can feed them, but if no one changes the government situation, we'll have to do it all over again after the next disaster.
 
I'm from SC and I think he's right on target. He might have figured out a better way to say it but then no one would have listened. The only ones who are insulted are the ones who wouldn't pass the drug test.
 
He merely said publicly what many of us have said privately for years.
Yes, he did insult stray animals. My personal cat population has jumped from 1 to 6. The new arrivals are all friendly, affectionate, cuddly, and well behaved. And when I do take them to the vet they won't be screaming and hollering that I'm violating their civil rights.
 
I heard a story recently where these welfare type bought a lot of botteled water with their food stamps, poured the water out near the store, went back in with the empty bottels to get a rebate on the bottels!
 
"Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." I believe this is originally attributed to Lao Tzu, and it just comes to mind during these discussions...

I've got great empathy for those that are truly in need, and despise those that game the system at my expense. It should be government's job to guard this distinction, rather than buying votes with my money.

My quick rant for the day...
 
The Associated Press reported that Bauer, who comes from working-class roots and who grew up in a single-parent household, benefited from subsidized school lunches himself.


And their point is?
he believes there are times that folks need assistance, but he climbed out of the pit and ended the cycle he was in.
 
"If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for the night.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life".
 
"Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.".......Lao Tzu


"Never, EVER teach a man to fish, keep him dependent on you for his fish, and he'll keep re-electing you".....Liberal Progressives.



It's simple economics, you subsidize the behavior you want to encourage. By rewarding people on welfare for continuing to make bad choices in life, your ensuring they keep doing it.
 
Here in New Jersey some years ago there was a stink when a retired judge was recalled to help another court with a backlog of small claims.
One involved a welfare queen suing a check cashing service, somehow her status as an unwed mother feeding at the public trough came up, the judge told her she was using her children as "meal tickets". In an excellent column entitled "The Lesson the Educators Didn't learn" George Will noted that the high rate of illegitimacy produced " a continually renewed cohort of unruly adolescent males" and in a front page news analysis in the Fall of 1993 the Sunday New York Times noted that the high rate of illegitimacy was a much greater factor in the crime problem than the availability of guns.
Also there's a big difference when you live in a single parent/single mother household and you see your mother getting up to go to work and then come home and prepare dinner as opposed to see her lying in bed when you're getting ready for school, and your siblings all have different fathers.
 
He merely said publicly what many of us have said privately for years.

Indeed.

Politically incorrect? Absolutely. But it drives the point home even more.

"Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.".......Lao Tzu


"Never, EVER teach a man to fish, keep him dependent on you for his fish, and he'll keep re-electing you".....Liberal Progressives.

This is also amazingly true.

People need to understand that handouts aren't doing them a favor. They're just lowering the quality of life for EVERYONE. They're costing those of us that work more money, and causing crime rates to increase and government expenditures to go up even more.
 
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I can't believe how heartless you people are! By "you people" I'm referring to S&W forum posters and not any race or religion just to be clear.
I have the perfect solution to welfare. It involves jobs and free daycare for your 10 kids. It involves vacant land and a huge pile of cinder blocks. The job is (while your kids are being fed and cared for in a government regulated facility) to move the cinder blocks from point A to point B. After you're done and aks what's next you're told to move them from point B back to point A. After 2 days of this B.S they would rather work a "menial" job at a store or restaraunt paying the same for 1/2 the work.
If that doesn't work put the kids in foster care and send the parents to a South Pacific island with a few chickens a box of vegetable seeds and a hoe (the digging kind) and let them work or die.
 
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The man is a hypocrite. He grew up on free and reduced lunches.

His mouth gets him in trouble often. He is immature enough to have not learned to think before he speaks. At this stage he'll likely never learn.
 
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Bear Claw Chris Lappe "Wouldn't the fact that he didn't STAY on them, and raise his children on them, imply he's less of a hypocrite, and more a person who knows what he is talking about?"

+1 Mr. Bear Claw He broke the cycle.
 

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