So what does everybody think of the Toyota recall?

Firehouse said:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but if I were driving a car that suddenly began to accelerate on it's own, I'd just put it in neutral and switch off the engine. But that's just me. I don't get what is so hard about that.
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My thoughts exactly. No doubt there is a serious problem with the uncontrolled acceleration and it sure as hell ain't the floor mat. Sounds like stupid people in a panic when it happens. Shift out of gear and turn the damn thing off, end of problem. If the motor blows when you put it in neutral so be it. The guy in San Diego was doing better than 90 but as soon as he hit the brakes per the CHP instruction he was down to 50, Duh! Not to be overly cynical but this is probably a good time to buy Toyota stock, as soon as it bottoms out. They will be back just like Ford after the Pinto gas tanks and the Explorer rollovers. Zero problems with our 06 Solara but who knows what tomorrow will bring. (o;
 
In the fourth quarter of 2009, Toyota passed General Motors in sales to become the #1 seller in the U.S.. The U.S. Government, I mean Obama, owns a controlling interest in General Motors. You do the math. I do not own a Prius, but have owned several Toyotas and will buy more in the future. I've yet to own one I couldn't put into neutral while traveling down the highway. In the past year, GM and Chrysler combined have had nearly 100 recalls. I smell a rat.
 
Regarding the engineer creating a runaway Toyota by "jumping" some electrical connections...I'm sure any car could behave in the same manner had their electronics shorted out. This engineering trick proves nothing, just that a car's systems can be overridden by trickery.
 
typical japanese attitude of not wanting to lose "face" when confronted with problems they created. probably also a part of the givernment that wants to slow down the competition. also organized labor could also be a factor in that they see their jobs going away bacause of the vast number of imports.
 
Glad we have a 2009 Honda Civic Hybrid and a 2007 Mazda3 and a old beater 2000 Ranger. All purchased way under invoice as folks were getting ripped off around here on there dealer thug Yota's lot's.

They have a bad bug in there electronic control.
 
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Toyota may become this generation's Corvair. "Unsafe at any speed".

Once the press and the Gov't start piling on, it is tough to make a comeback.
 
From the so-called best to the so-called worst in a month? I dont think so.
 
jimmyj said:
Hi:
I received in 2007 a new Toyota Camry for my retirement gift.
Negative problems.
Jimmy
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I just bought a 2007 Camry with 27K miles on it that had been sitting in the dealers lot for four months.

Saved maybe $1000-1500 because everyone has their shorts in a wad. . . :rolleyes:

And if I get pulled for speeding: "OMG! The accelerator just stuck, Officer." :D
 
Thank goodness I have a Nissan Frontier:p
Toyota tried to cover this thing up for years, they deserve what they get.
 
jframe said:
Toyota's reputation is tarnished; no doubt. As a former Toyota parts guy, I know they are good cars as a whole, but I think the biggest problem they have now is that they don't actually KNOW what is causing this problem. So far, they've ignored it up until lately, and now they want to blame it on hardware. I think it's a software problem more than anything. I hate to see this happen to a manufacturer that prides themselves on quality and safety, but in all honesty, I think they might have gotten too big for their britches. ANYTHING mechanical can and will fail; Toyotas are no exception. In my seven years in one of their dealerships, they seemed to spend most of their time badmouthing other auto manufacturers instead of addressing some of their own issues, such as the fact that many of their vehicles seem to be seriously underbraked. I can only hope that they get a handle on this and quick, since they do have a substantial investment in this country.
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Overall I am not impressed. I have drove a variety of U.S. and foreign cars. Most have been bought new or lightly used and the driven into the ground. Without exception the best cars my wife and I have used are Toyota's. We have not had anything that would equal them. Our daughter currently owns a Toyota Camry w/ 287,000 miles on it. It runs perfectly. My last Toyota Camry was sold at 361,000 when I replaced it with a new car. We currently own two Toyota for daily commuting... +100 miles each daily. We are well pleased. YMMV. Sincerely. brucev.
 
well I work for a plant that makes brake systems for hyundia and KIA and let me tell you what, since toyota's screw up we all now have more QC shoved in our rears than you would imagine, and heck can you blame them?
 
Me thinks Toyota is facing paying out billions in class action lawsuits. If they ignored safety warnings and put their customers (and everyone else on the road) at risk, they deserve it.
 
I think it is getting warmer, fish are starting to bite, it would be a great day to go to the range, uh, what is this thing about in Japan? Some trouble with a off shore car or something?

I drive a Chevy truck and yes it smells like a woman in a leather dress.
 
Am I wrong to assume that shutting off the igntion key would effectively stop a runaway Toyota. Ill take no power steering over uncontroled speed.
 
I still say this reminds me of the Audi "sudden acceleration" problem of the mid '80s. Turned out people thought they were on the brakes, but they missed and were on the gas instead.

I was just listening to the radio this morning, they reported another case of sudden acceleration with a Prius. When they got the car stopped, they claimed the brake pads were almost completely burned up.

I call BS. There isn't a production car made that has a strong enough motor to overpower the brakes, and especially not a Prius. There may have been an isolated problem, and because Toyota was eating Government Motors lunch, the vultures are circling.
 
I agree that the brakes should be able to overpower the engine. I also just realized how these hybrid Prius cars work. When you step on the brake of most hybrids, the heat generated by the braking system recharges the hybrid battery. It also, at least in the case of a Prius, cuts off the gasoline engine. So how the hell did it keep accelerating? While I DO believe Toyota has a software problem with it's drive by wire system, I kind of smell a rat on yesterday's incident. BTW, I've heard many Toyota dealership employees blaming the defects on the fact that the drive by wire motors were made in Chicago instead of overseas. Once again, I call BS on that one. I think the same company makes these for several auto manufacturers, and we have had ZERO problems of this sort since I began working parts at a Ford dealership five years ago.
 
I am currently sans automobile. It will definitely have an effect on my choice of vehicle. How much is yet to be determined.
 
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