I made my first gunbelt! with new pictures!

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Hey guys,

Do not order anything from "Crazy k38" he's a cr--k!!

I belong to the 1911 forum also and he offered up a special version of that belt with our names on the inside. That was back in July and no one has received a belt. There were about 20 of us at $70 per belt, some people ordered more than one.

His user name over there is "crazy k38" no capitol C.

If you know how to contact him I'd sure like to have you share that info with me.
 
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Much or most of the discussion there is in a private social group for COTEP as I understand it. Apparently, that board removes public "grievance threads".
After much correspondence with multiple sources, I concluded there was enough evidence of bad performance to restore this thread as a caution for members here.

The accusations should be addressed by Crazy K38 one way or the other.

We don't take potential risks to our members lightly.

If you contact "NAMVET72" he'll help you find what you need.
 
If you contact "NAMVET72" he'll help you find what you need.
If you look above, you will see that he has been here as NAVET72. I believe it is better that you folks relay your stories firsthand rather than have me pass it on.
If NAVET72 wants that ID fixed to add the M, he can let me know.
 
I already had 3 gun belts and 2 have never been worn but I went ahead and ordered one from him for $70 because we try to help out the younger guys in our group who are trying to build a business.

This is how we got repaid. My Dad always said "No good deed ever goes unpunished"
 
He has responded to the members of the 1911 forum and says he is making things right, and he has proof? that the belts are being made, He claims that his Grandmother is in last days for this world???

Only time will tell

Ed
 
He has responded to the members of the 1911 forum and says he is making things right, and he has proof? that the belts are being made, He claims that his Grandmother is in last days for this world???

Only time will tell

Ed

This is the story we've been getting since July.
 
look I have not scammed anyone, I have been going through a lot and have had no time for anything but my main job and try and help my grandparents I have shown them photographic proof that the belts are being made they are just taking time. These people came on here and their first post was to blow my name up. I have made 1700 post look through them and get a feel for who I am.
 
look I have not scammed anyone, I have been going through a lot and have had no time for anything but my main job and try and help my grandparents I have shown them photographic proof that the belts are being made they are just taking time. These people came on here and their first post was to blow my name up. I have made 1700 post look through them and get a feel for who I am.

Please refund my money and that'll straighten things out as far as I'm concerned.
 
An update: Fair is fair and he just posted over at the 1911 forum that he's going to ship one belt tomorrow.
We'll see.
 
I have never said I wouldn't give out refunds, but I am stuck paying bills that I shouldn't have to pay and it would take quite a while for me to refund them. I agree from now on I will take Dave's advice and just let funds cross in the mail and call it a day. I have been teaching my wife to work leather so she can help while I am at work, I am currently doing all I can to make this right. And the comment about boarding planes etc, is B/S. When you have photos and proof that I am going through hardship that is putting a strain on production, you are going to board a plane? Also, IDK how many people here work leather, but you don't really ever have belts for custom sizes on hand, it doesn't work like that. Please, everyone calm down and see the reality of the situation. A scammer or a theif would NEVER go through this much trouble for a scam, this is just taking way more time than origionally anticipated.
 
This thread is still open for one reason:
Resolution of the situation.

We don't need to know how scary you can be when wronged.
We don't need your primer on Business 101.
We don't need general comment.

You can post in this thread IF:
You are directly involved in a transaction with the principle, or have very pertinent data that updates the situation.
Otherwise, stay out of this.
Period.
 
As an update I shipped out a belt this morning to a member with a tracking number. I am sorry this message is so breif, but I have to go see my grandmother before I go to work tonight. I will try to write more in the morning.
 
I have never said I wouldn't give out refunds, (he absolutely offered refunds)but I am stuck paying bills that I shouldn't have to pay (what bills could you possibly have othere than for the materials for the belt and we sent our money to you to cover that.) and it would take quite a while for me to refund them.What!! We've been waiting for belts since mid July and PP refunds can be done in minutes I agree from now on I will take Dave's advice and just let funds cross in the mail and call it a day. I have been teaching my wife to work leather so she can help while I am at work, So now you want us to accept a belt made by your wife!!I am currently doing all I can to make this right. And the comment about boarding planes etc, is B/S. When you have photos and proof that I am going through hardship that is putting a strain on production, you are going to board a plane? Also, IDK how many people here work leather, Apparently you're not someone who works with leather.but you don't really ever have belts for custom sizes on hand, it doesn't work like that. Please, everyone calm down and see the reality of the situation. A scammer or a theif would NEVER go through this much trouble for a scam, this is just taking way more time than origionally anticipated.

I don't think that you guys are much interested in listening to his whining and crying any more so I hope he stops immediately.
The details of this issue need to be discussed with the victims on the 1911 Forum COTEP so this is my last post here about it.
 
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I don't think that you guys are much interested in listening to his whining and crying any more so I hope he stops immediately.
The details of this issue need to be discussed with the victims on the 1911 Forum COTEP so this is my last post here about it.

Ok first off, the bills I am having to pay have nothing to do with the belts, and there for are none of your buisness. Second, I am posting here because someone tried to ruin my name here, third there have been belts shipped, so there are no 'victims', unless you count slander but we won't go there. If you want to be part of a solution instead of instigating the situation then post here, otherwise stay on the 1911 forum and do what you are doing. The administrator of THIS forum has already posted that this thread is for finding a solution not trying to bash me or act out.
 
Easy, Crazy.
I don't have all power diverted to the Shields for you.
You are merely being offered the chance to answer the questions raised by customers.

He is making the point that you should not have spent the money paid for belts till you had delivered belts.....
 
FYI: regarding the COTEP belt situation created by "crazyK38" the fellas at the 1911 forum asked me to give you an update on the problem.

On 10/26 he shipped one belt and the owner of it posted some pictures a few days later. The belt was shoddy at best and it was missing many features that had been promised such as our names being stamped on the inside. To date this is the only belt he has shipped.
The next time we heard from him was yesterday and he was back to his same old tricks, he was making excuses for not shipping belt #2 and he screwed up the sequence of the belt orders.
Not to belabor the point but as of 5 minutes ago he was banned from our group.
If you have any questions please PM me and I'll try to respond.
 
I am not up to anything, I had to change the belt order to make paypal happy, I was leaving constant updates on that lounge until I was banned, and I was stamping member numbers, however what is funny is that the owner HIMSELF said he was very happy with the belt, so please try to tell the truth.
 
COTEP belt

I'm the person that received the COTEP belt and posted a short review on the 1911forum's private COTEP members section. I didn't realize that this was the other forum in which Crazy K38 was participating, and mentioned the belt until I did some more searching.......small world.

I'm not even sure where to begin on this. Yes, quite a few months ago, a group of us in the 1911 forum decided to buy belts from Crazy K38 to match the holsters that were made by another 1911forum member. I'm going to go back through the old threads to absolutely confirm some of the info before I continue with this post.

I'll edit it with further info soon.

Feel free to send me an PM or e-mail if you'd like.


Here's some info:
The link to the website we were to use to order the belts was posted on July 17th.

On September 2nd, a photo was posted of 17 belt blanks, which were to be used for our belts.

The first set of three belts was supposed to ship out late August, but they were lost in the mail. I wasn't able to locate any info on the recipients of these belts. I located a post from August listing the members to receive the first two batches of belts….and I wasn't one of them. Apparently, the order of the belts to be shipped out was altered to make Paypal happy, (but I fail to see what Paypal has to do with this) and I was bumped up to the top of the list.

Crazy K38 moved during this time period, which slowed down (stopped?) his production. Crazy K38's grandmother also experienced health issues, and he visited her often, which also slowed down his production. It's very understandable for these issues to slow down production of the belts. The problem was with the lack of communication from Crazy K38 to the individuals that prepaid for the belts.

The first set of belts were being re-made in mid September. Mine was to go in the mail Sept 27th, then October 5. I received it on October 29.

On Nov 1, it was posted that he was making progress on belt #2, but was really busy with work and didn't have very much time to devote to the project (so his wife was helping out).

On November 4, Crazy K38 started a new thread in which he was going to provide updates on the belts as they were being made. He posted in the Dan Wesson section on the 6th that he lost his access to the COTEP lounge, so cannot provide updates in the thread he created on the 4th.

I do not consider the belt I received to be shoddy. It's not at the quality level as my Mist Sparks belts, but for $65 I wasn't expecting an exceptional belt. The only flaws visible while it's being worn is some dye that darkened the stitching in a few spots. Crazy K38 posted that as the belt is used, the thread should shed this dye. In my review, I also mentioned that the back side of the belt wasn't dyed, and that I dyed it myself to make it look more professional.

One of the "missing features" (the COTEP stamp) could not be applied to the belt because that stamp design is owned by a gunsmith member of the 1911 forum, and was only allowed to be used on the COTEP holster as a favor. In one of his posts, he stated, "Also I have the tools to put your member name and # on the inside of the belts and it will be standard on each one.". My COTEP number was stamped on the inside of the holster, but not in a very attractive manner. Crazy K38 posted a clear photo of this stamp in one of his posts, so I didn't comment on it in my review. As I plan to use this belt with my IWB holster, the only part that I expect anyone to ever see is the buckle. The lack of my name and a stamp is of no importance to me. Others may feel differently.

For it's designated use, I am in fact very satisfied with the belt. I probably wouldn't be as satisfied if it were an OWB holster for open carry, or a some other leather item that is seen regularly.

If anyone would like to read my review (and see the photos), I suppose I can post it here.

I hope this information is helpful. I just hope that Crazy K38 is able to ramp up production and make the remaining of the belts within a reasonable timeframe.

Grizz
 
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