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I am planning to trade in my f-150 next year, I have downsized boats so don't need that big of a vehicle. I am thinking between ford, nissan Frontier. and toyota Tacoma. I have liked the full sized ford but am not familiar with any of these compacts. At this stage of life, mid 60s, I am most interested in something comfortable, 6 cyl, good sound system, minimum road noise, and a 5-1/2' or 6' bed, bucket seats in front and the flip up seats with half door in back. I will occasionally be pulling a boat trailer, GVW 2700 lbs loaded, on Louisiana's "flat" highways, and have a good boat ramp so don't need for 4wd.
Any one care to offer some advice or comments?
Thanks
Steve W.
 
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Steve, unless there is something seriously wrong or about to go wrong with your F-150 why get rid of it? Every time you sell/trade and buy another vehicle some one makes a lot of money and it is usually not you. I'd rather pull 2700 lbs with more truck than I need (the F-150) vs just enough or less truck. Many of the smaller trucks don't get much more in the way of mileage than the full sized models and the ride is far worse. Another consideration, what if your boating needs change? If you suddenly get a smoking good deal on a larger boat you will be shopping for another truck. Now I must admit my bias, I have an 06 F-150 and love it. I can't imagine ever owning less truck. YMMV (o;
 
I'd do some research, if you haven't already.

I had a Dodge Ram PU when the *new* body style came out. Got 19 mpg on the highway, was comfortable, etc. etc.
We had a job in AR near the OK border. I drove from Memphis to the job and the guy I was working with drove back.
David LOVED the Dodge!
David ran out and bought a Dodge Dakota - Since he's a frugal type.
The Dakota got 17 mpg on the highway and really sucked gas around town. Nice truck, low gear. It turns out that they do that because of the 6 cyl engine....

Your F-150 probably rides better, pulls better, and is cheaper to operate. Probably - YMMV :)
 
I'd look at a full size Chevy V6 Work Truck. Cost of a standard cab Chevy will price out close to a V6 Tacoma extended cab and have more room in cab. Full size Chevy V6 half ton gets 18-21 mpg.
 
I'd look at a full size Chevy V6 Work Truck. Cost of a standard cab Chevy will price out close to a V6 Tacoma extended cab and have more room in cab. Full size Chevy V6 half ton gets 18-21 mpg.

Fuel mileage is very dependent on rear end ratios.

The good news
They're actually listed in the glove box :)

The bad news
They're listed in code :(

The good news
The code is available. I keep a copy of the GM rear ratio codes in my wallet just in case I see a Chevy or GMC truck for sale that really turns me on.... I've had some of each and keep coming back to GM. I'm also a big fan of the SBC.

A quick internet search for GM RPO codes will give you the info that you need.
 
Here is my Ford Ranger. It is 4wd, 5speed manual & 4.0 V6. Last summer I drove ir to Wy. & it avg, 24.1 mpg without the traler. Around town & short trip I avg 20 mpg. I haven't towed the trailer much yet, but it will pull it 65 mph on flat ground & slows a bunch on a steep grade. It has most of the creature comforts & does well for what I need.
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You may find that the cost difference between full size and compact is very slight. As was mentioned, the mileage can be very close also.
 
I have a 2006 4 door Tacoma that I bought new. I have been very satisfied with it. Mileage on mine varies between 17 - 20 depending on speed terrain and whether the fuel has ethanol in it. Ethanol will drop mileage 10-15%.
 
I've owned two ford rangers and they were excellent trucks. The last one was a 3.0 V-6 with a manual, 23 MPG with a 1700 # tow rating, the automatic version was rated at 3500#. If I were set on a compact I would look at Ford or Toyota.

As others have said, the MPG difference between a compact and full size is not that great. The the Chevrolet 1500 crew cab I bought (4.8 V-8) was rated at the same MPG (21) as the Tacoma crew cab (4.0 V-6) I was considering.
 
I have an 08 Tacoma, bought new. It has the 4.0 v-6, with a 6-speed manual trans, 4x4. It has 410 gears under it. It now has almost 52000 miles, averages 20-21mpg. At 60mph it is turning about 2200 rpm.

The only time it has been in the shop was because the clamp holding the tailpipe extension broke.

I tow my 16 foot aluminum boat with it with no problems.

I have towed a 16' travel trailer with it and it handled that fine.

The back seats fold down and create a completly flat storage area. Also has storage compartments under the back seats.

When I bought this truck I looked at all the smaller trucks on the market and this seemed the best bang for the buck.

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I have an extended cab Ford Ranger with 3.0 V6 and auto transmission that we use to pull an Aquarius 21 sailboat. The only problems I've had is that over they years I've replaced EVERY ball joint at least once. Maybe the rough roads I live on and 160K miles I've put on the truck contribute to that though.
 
OCD1, I test drove one and it seemed OK. I'm just not quite ready to buy a vehicle made in Turkey.
 
I went through the compact truck buying routine just last year. I went in with a list of criteria that had to be met (tight turning radius, same or better mileage than existing 02 V6 S-10, etc).

For your needs, you will probably want a locking differential of some kind if you have 2WD and want to get up a boat ramp. I mention this because they aren't as easy to get on a truck as you would think.

But here is what I found, in a nutshell, which will likely offend at least one person from every camp. :D

Ranger
Pros: least expensive, can get the options you want for the most part (limited slip available), good reputation for durability, parts are cheap and anyone can fix one
Cons: cramped cabin, rough riding, noisy
Bottom line: crude compared to the competition, not an improvement over the S-10

Tacoma
Pros: really liked the cabin, strong V6, one of the better for MPG, strong re-sale
Cons: expensive, flexible frame and light rear end make for a bad ride, can only get street racer lowered or off-road raised ride height - nothing in between, no limited slip option (you can get an electronic locking rear-end, but only on the TRD off-road), numerous problems including weak tailgates, revised payload ratings, cracking beds, bad ball joints, broken engine mounts, valve noise, and more
Bottom line: I went in thinking this was my truck, but after driving a few went looking elsewhere - a major disappointment

Frontier
Pros: strong V6 and well-matched transmission, comfortable front cabin, all-metal bed and strong tailgate, good quiet ride
Cons: very poor MPG, enormous turning radius, limited slip available, but only on certain trims, poor re-sale
Bottom line: I liked the truck, but couldn't get past the bad MPG and turning radius

Colorado/Canyon
Pros: can get the options you want (including limited slip), reasonably priced
Cons: if comments I got from the Colorado owners I talked to are any indication, there are too many to list here
Bottom line: this one looked good on paper, but based on feedback I got, I never test drove one, so I can't help much here

Ridgeline
Pros: rides great, drives great, runs great, numerous clever touches (trunk in bed, etc.), good 4WD system, sterling reliability, high resale, comfortable front and back
Cons: heavy, V6 a bit too small for that much weight, poor mpg, expensive, spare is in trunk (if you have a flat with the bed loaded, you have some extra work to do), no 2WD option, bed design is awkward (you can't reach over the side, and while bed covers and caps are available, they are seriously expensive)
Bottom line: I didn't give this one much thought until I drove it. If Honda makes the interior less quirky, drops some weight, gives it a bit more power, puts a normal bed on it, and maybe makes it a little smaller they will have a winner on their hands. Fair warning - once you drive this one, you will realize how crude the others are. But at the end of the day it was a little too big, a little too expensive, a little too thirsty, and a little too underpowered to make the sale.

As others have stated, keeping the F-150 makes the most $ sense. If you really want a new one, the compacts only offer the advantage of being slightly smaller - they really aren't any cheaper and the mileage is about the same as a full size.
 
OCD1, I test drove one and it seemed OK. I'm just not quite ready to buy a vehicle made in Turkey.

I didn't know that:( I just thought it was so quirky looking and cheap on gas it might be neat., Thought I could haul all my range junk in it.I like vans, but not a Mini Van. Had a Dodge Dakota Quad Cap with the big honking 8 cylinder, posi track and all the bells and whistles handling package, heavy tow gear etc etc.
Loved the truck but it needed to stop every few miles to fuel up! Thing sucked gas.

I keep telling Mrs OCD I want the Tacoma but not having car payments is a nice thing.
 
MPG is not the only consideration. Personal Property tax, and insurance. My insurance varies widely. I have a chevy suburban & I pay less insurance (full coverage) than on the little import cars (minimum coverage). Sometimes you can put in a lot of gas for the difference. All my kids have left home & every time I think about downsizing to an explorer, some event happens and I'm glad I haven't downsized. My other half drives an explorer AWD V-8, which is great, but pulling the boat isn't nearly as comfy as the suburban. and going camping - just toss and go in the chevy, no "pack it perfect so it will fit" & the two dogs fit just fine. Traded dogs for kids, I guess:). Very little MPG difference between the two vehicles. Our F-150 has over 300k on it. Explorer pulls more bcz of V-8, but F-150 is more comfortable pulling some things, like the boat. I think that the height makes the difference.
Oh, I have neck/back issues. The long wheel base on the F-150 is a much more comfortable ride than the Explorer.
Just my 2cents.
 
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