Federal Nyclad------------

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

I have a few boxes of the original Nyclad .38 Special ammo. It's extremely accurate in any of my revolvers especially my M36. I haven't shot any of the new Nyclad ammo but I highly doubt it's changed at all. I'm betting they used the old recipe to remake the old ammo again.

The new 125gr Nyclad bullet is a new design compared to the older design from the 1980's.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

The new 125gr Nyclad bullet is a new design compared to the older design from the 1980's.

Do you know what the differences are?

TIA.

 

[Harrison]

I put 10 rounds of the 125 nyclad through my 642 airweight today. It printed to point of aim at 10 yards, and about a 3" group which is about as good as I can shoot that little thing.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

Do you know what the differences are?

TIA.

Back in the late 80's-early 90's Federal produced two different 125gr Nyclad loads, one was the "Chief's Special" (N38M) standard pressure round using a semi-wadcutter profile bullet. The 2nd load (N38N) was a +P pressure loading with a more standard looking bullet profile.

The new Nyclad load by Fed (P38MA for the 20 rnd "Personal Defense" box and P38M for the plain white 50 rnd box and Federal "Premium" 50 rnd box) is standard pressure with the conventional looking bullet profile. This new bullet has a wider HP cavity at the meplat (tip of the bullet) but a slightly more shallow cavity than the old style N38N bullet.

 

[LOBO]

Out of a 442,

http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/135791-tested-38-special-federal-nyclad.html

 

[revolvergeek]

Back in the late 80's-early 90's Federal produced two different 125gr Nyclad loads, one was the "Chief's Special" (N38M) standard pressure round using a semi-wadcutter profile bullet. The 2nd load (N38N) was a +P pressure loading with a more standard looking bullet profile. .

This is exactly the opposite of the ammo that I had. What you are talking about sounds more like the old S&W vintage standard velocity .38 spl load (shown in a thread here). I never saw any made by Federal of that profile, but I also didn't really give carry ammo a second thought until '91 - '92 so I might have just completely missed them.

I should still have two or three vintage 50 round Gold boxes of the standard pressure load that has a 125 grn hollow point of a flat point / round nosed shape. The new production bullet tested in the link above looks at a glance exactly like the the vintage ones that I have.

I had several boxes of a .38 +P and .357 magnum that both featured a 158 grain LSW-HP bullet, but didn't get very good expansion out of them in my very unscientific testing and traded them all off. I still have several boxes of the 124 9mmP load also. I was a big fan of the Nyclads back then and used them for carry ammo in an old Browning Hi Power and a square butt Model 37 (in bright shiny nickel! ) . I always wished that they would introduce a 230 grain .45 acp load....

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

This is exactly the opposite of the ammo that I had. What you are talking about sounds more like the old S&W vintage standard velocity .38 spl load (shown in a thread here). I never saw any made by Federal of that profile, but I also didn't really give carry ammo a second thought until '91 - '92 so I might have just completely missed them.

I should still have two or three vintage 50 round Gold boxes of the standard pressure load that has a 125 grn hollow point of a flat point / round nosed shape. The new production bullet tested in the link above looks at a glance exactly like the the vintage ones that I have.

I had several boxes of a .38 +P and .357 magnum that both featured a 158 grain LSW-HP bullet, but didn't get very good expansion out of them in my very unscientific testing and traded them all off. I still have several boxes of the 124 9mmP load also. I was a big fan of the Nyclads back then and used them for carry ammo in an old Browning Hi Power and a square butt Model 37 (in bright shiny nickel! ) . I always wished that they would introduce a 230 grain .45 acp load....

The ammo in the link from the OK Shooters Assoc Forum is the old Smith & Wesson brand Nyclad from the 1970's. When S&W quit the ammo business Federal purchased the rights to the Nyclad design and produced their own loads; basically the entire line of S&W's Nyclad ammo was produced in the Federal line.

 

[CDawg]

Gunbroker Item # 203900893. Seller is lawdog490. $150 for 300rds (6 50rd boxes) plus $15 shipping. I've done business with Richard. He's a good man. This auction goes off in 18hrs. Richard will put another lot up for auction if this one sells. If you need more than 300 rounds, contact Richard and he will take care of you. Yes, it is very good ammo at a good price. Happy hunting.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

The NyClad line was specifically developed for reduced airborne lead in indoor ranges. Then someone found out that the NyClad bullets would penetrate kevlar vests (more so than other bullet types) and BINGO! "Cop killer bullets" became the media rage.
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PLEASE do not spread that Urban Legend! The Nyclads are not TEFLON COATED ALLOY BULLETS, which were made for a very short time and are no longer produced.

Some people who should know better looked at the blue color and SCREAMED! COP KILLER BULLETS! and fear ruled the ranges and the ammo was out of business.

As it is, the design is forty or so years old and there is better ammo for snubbies available.

Geoff
Who used Standard Velocity 125 Nyclad S&W as his carry ammo for years.

 

[one eye joe]

I've also purchased Nyclad from Lawdog on GB. He is a great seller, honest and reliable. Buy with confidence..........

 

[mkk41]

KTW cartridges which used tungsten bullets at a very high velocity to achieve penetration. The bullets were teflon-coated, i believe, in order to provide a more reasonable bearing surface for the barrel.

Early KTW bullets were made from bronze , with a tungsten core. Later ones were made from plain 70/30 yellow brass and the tungsten core was eliminated. The teflon coating was for bore lubrication as brass bullet are much harder than copper jacketed/lead core.

 

[mkk41]

Some people who should know better looked at the blue color and SCREAMED! COP KILLER BULLETS! and fear ruled the ranges and the ammo was out of business.

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Exactly what happened to me.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

Early KTW bullets were made from bronze , with a tungsten core. Later ones were made from plain 70/30 yellow brass and the tungsten core was eliminated. The teflon coating was for bore lubrication as brass bullet are much harder than copper jacketed/lead core.

During the years that the KTW was produced there have been several different bullet profiles and cores.

Bullet profiles included pointed, truncated RN and truncated flat points.

Bullet cores included Kennertium W10 (sintered powdered tungsten and copper), turned steel and brass.