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billdeserthills
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I think in reality, the real change in value will be inflation and the devaluation of our-- *** backed by a Fed promise that is worth little to nothing--Dollar. New model 29's are in most cases priced higher than the majority of the older model 29's. However the older model guns will never be made again, so if you want to invest in a winner, be sure to buy the most perfect condition example you can find.
This may be an inappropriate comparison..but the days of the $200 k frame police trade ins are gone. I can only see a premium early model 29 appreciating in value. As one poster commented..the new ones still cost more than the older classics that hold my attention.
As an investment the only ones to really apreciate are the older mint unfired ones with all the goodies. The others appreciate at about the rate of inflation.
That said I prefer the older S&W pinned and recessed revolvers verses the new ones because I believe that they were made when more care went into the manufacture of them they had more hand fitting and to me they have smoother actions.
That said I prefer the older S&W pinned and recessed revolvers verses the new ones because I believe that they were made when more care went into the manufacture of them they had more hand fitting and to me they have smoother actions.
BUFF
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It's impossible to predict the future. How much will a barrel of oil be selling for in 10 years? A bushel of wheat? An ounce of gold?
Things's value is determined by both supply and demand. A real threat to the value of our S&W's is our laws. Some powerful people don't believe you have the right of self defense, don't believe you have the right to own a handgun. I can see a scenario in which handguns are outlawed by these folks. Suddenly, you won't be able to legally keep, let alone sell your guns. How much will they be worth then? Supply will be hugely diinished, and sales of them will go underground. How will demand and thus value be figured if that happens?
Complex question. No definitive answers.
Things's value is determined by both supply and demand. A real threat to the value of our S&W's is our laws. Some powerful people don't believe you have the right of self defense, don't believe you have the right to own a handgun. I can see a scenario in which handguns are outlawed by these folks. Suddenly, you won't be able to legally keep, let alone sell your guns. How much will they be worth then? Supply will be hugely diinished, and sales of them will go underground. How will demand and thus value be figured if that happens?
Complex question. No definitive answers.
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I don't really care. I don't plan on selling them. When I die, my kids can do what they want with them. If they sell them, what they get for them is their problem, not mine. If some condition arises where I HAVE to sell them, I'll be glad for whatever they do bring.
So I just buy the ones I want, and pay what I'm willing to pay.
So I just buy the ones I want, and pay what I'm willing to pay.
all of this assumes the generations coming behind us will have the same love for them as we do, most of us came up admiring fine revolvers, because that's what was popular in our formative years.
Have you ever watched the young 20-somethings reach right over a nice N frame smith to pick up a glock or a sig so him and his gunshow partner can admire it and dream of someday owning one, or every one in that brands line up.
So yeah even though the supply is fixed what happens when the demand dies out, what will the prices do then?
Art makes a good point the highest of the high grades will always have a fan base. But all the other grades of guns, well future generations of gun guys may not see it the way we do.
There's another angle to consider
Have you ever watched the young 20-somethings reach right over a nice N frame smith to pick up a glock or a sig so him and his gunshow partner can admire it and dream of someday owning one, or every one in that brands line up.
So yeah even though the supply is fixed what happens when the demand dies out, what will the prices do then?
Art makes a good point the highest of the high grades will always have a fan base. But all the other grades of guns, well future generations of gun guys may not see it the way we do.
There's another angle to consider
This.
I fear we are entering a time when practical will reign supreme and the need for self defense firearms will increase along with threat levels. For all my love of revolvers the reality is that autoloaders have outclassed them for this purpose since 1911. The user grades will still have value but I would not count on high demand pushing prices up appreciably higher than inflation.
I just hope that in 10 years we'll still be able to own them.
Allen-frame
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At the gun show this weekend the inordinate quantity of high capacity
autos compared to revolvers was obvious.
The one thing to notice is when a revolver is reasonably priced it is
gone quick. So they have to be going somewhere.
Old cats like us are a dying breed, only the wonderpistols or big
magnums hold any charm to my son or his young friends.
Unfortunately he has no love for the most practical of all, the 22
revolver. I tried to raise him well, but he took off in his own
direction long ago.
To prognosticate as to the future value of Smith and Wesson revolvers;
there will always be a few dedicated art lovers who will appreciate
the form and function of the revolver.
To just look at it and watch how it works is amazing.
Couple that with the fact that it has not really been improved upon in over a hundred years
and the classics will always endure,
even if to a smaller group, they will always have their place and value.
I am banking on my collection as a means toward retirement,which
I hope will be in about 10 years or so.
If I can sell a gun for the same dollar amount 10 years from now, with
inflation factored in, I feel I will be ahead.
Great discussion. Keep the faith.
Allen Frame
autos compared to revolvers was obvious.
The one thing to notice is when a revolver is reasonably priced it is
gone quick. So they have to be going somewhere.
Old cats like us are a dying breed, only the wonderpistols or big
magnums hold any charm to my son or his young friends.
Unfortunately he has no love for the most practical of all, the 22
revolver. I tried to raise him well, but he took off in his own
direction long ago.
To prognosticate as to the future value of Smith and Wesson revolvers;
there will always be a few dedicated art lovers who will appreciate
the form and function of the revolver.
To just look at it and watch how it works is amazing.
Couple that with the fact that it has not really been improved upon in over a hundred years
and the classics will always endure,
even if to a smaller group, they will always have their place and value.
I am banking on my collection as a means toward retirement,which
I hope will be in about 10 years or so.
If I can sell a gun for the same dollar amount 10 years from now, with
inflation factored in, I feel I will be ahead.
Great discussion. Keep the faith.
Allen Frame
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In 10 years we will be lucky if we can say that they sell for dollars period. The way things are going, we will be trading in yen, or who knows what. Maybe even Ameros.
The younger generation
As to the desires of the younger generation with regard to classic firearms and how that will affect future values, I am afraid that the number of those schooled in the appreciation of these guns is declining. How that will affect prices is hard to predict. My Son and Daughter have been exposed to all types of firearms, and it will be youngsters like them who will carry the torch. It's up to people of my generation to make sure they are exposed to the finer things in the world of guns. I to am leaving several guns to my children and I can't put restrictions on them as to what they do with them once I'm gone. My Son is most interested in things like my M-1 Garrand, M-1 Paratrooper, and Remington Rand (original w/General Shaver Mag), so it appears that, at least in his case, the torch has been passed. My daughter is more practical and prefers to shoot the hell out of a Glock 21. And she is really good with it, to the surprise of experienced shooters at the range we go to.
Get involved with your children and their friends, and plant the seed.
As to the desires of the younger generation with regard to classic firearms and how that will affect future values, I am afraid that the number of those schooled in the appreciation of these guns is declining. How that will affect prices is hard to predict. My Son and Daughter have been exposed to all types of firearms, and it will be youngsters like them who will carry the torch. It's up to people of my generation to make sure they are exposed to the finer things in the world of guns. I to am leaving several guns to my children and I can't put restrictions on them as to what they do with them once I'm gone. My Son is most interested in things like my M-1 Garrand, M-1 Paratrooper, and Remington Rand (original w/General Shaver Mag), so it appears that, at least in his case, the torch has been passed. My daughter is more practical and prefers to shoot the hell out of a Glock 21. And she is really good with it, to the surprise of experienced shooters at the range we go to.
Get involved with your children and their friends, and plant the seed.
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DGNY
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My guess is that the conceptual winnowing will continue. As today, 95-99% early H-Es, especially N-frames, pre-model and later P&R 98-99% - S&W .44 Magnums in cases, ditto N-frame .357s [particularly in orig factory cases with accessories], Colt Pythons, Colt SAAs of early to mid vintage, original US 1911s, English cased double rifles and shotguns in excellent condition.
Look at the guns some of our noted contributors display here, including provenance materials. They can pick them now, and they are right on track for the future, in my opinion.
The kinds of arms that I select as a small accumulator are of blended utility and attraction. Neither their condition [usually], nor their rarity will commend them to the future at a rate higher than inflation, in my opinion. That's OK - and it beats a lot of stocks my advisers have chosen in the last 11 years!
Regards,
Dyson
Look at the guns some of our noted contributors display here, including provenance materials. They can pick them now, and they are right on track for the future, in my opinion.
The kinds of arms that I select as a small accumulator are of blended utility and attraction. Neither their condition [usually], nor their rarity will commend them to the future at a rate higher than inflation, in my opinion. That's OK - and it beats a lot of stocks my advisers have chosen in the last 11 years!
Regards,
Dyson
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My thinking exactly.
Nframe357
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Just look back 10yrs at prices and availability and you will have your answer. I remember just 8-9 yrs ago you couldn't give away model 28's, no look at em.
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Pretty much what I see and am thinking. I will buy a fair or under priced wheelgun in a heart beat. I will enjoy them now and hope to be able to sell them for what I paid plus a little (or in an odd case a lot) when I can no longer get out and enjoy them and/or need the cash. Which may be tommorow or never.
WyoStillhunter
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I own a handful of S&W revolvers because I enjoy shooting them. The fun is in the using. Beyond that Rule #2 applies -- "It's all small stuff." (I assume we all know Rule #1.)
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