I currently have federal high velocity and cci minis loaded into my magazines for my home defense. I know .22 is not the best for home defense, but its all i own as of now. So any ideas on what ammo I should keep in my mags to get the best stopping power?
Best Self Defense Ammo .22?
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Redbulladdikt
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i have had luck on raccoons/oppossums with CCI Velocitors or with the good old Mini-Mags...even center-mass hits are usually messy and they tend to go bang every time...obviously you want something with hit power but you also want reliable
my suggestion is to invest in something with a little more 'pop' when funds allow--I have a .410 with some #6 birdshot 3inch shells i bought some years ago for $150 used...its not pretty but its reliable and less chance of overpenetration in a "hightened adrenal" situation...but if a 22is all you have then its all you have...still beats a sharpened stick!
my suggestion is to invest in something with a little more 'pop' when funds allow--I have a .410 with some #6 birdshot 3inch shells i bought some years ago for $150 used...its not pretty but its reliable and less chance of overpenetration in a "hightened adrenal" situation...but if a 22is all you have then its all you have...still beats a sharpened stick!
stickbug1
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Since you clearly stated that it is the only choice available to you at this time, I will save the preaching from the soap box. And I would hope that others will follow suit and do the same.
The heaviest grain bullet you can find in a hollow point, is the best you will be able to do. Such as 2-WNXHV22LR - Ammo .22 Long Rifle Winchester Plated Hollow Point 40 Grain 1435 fps 100 Rounds
The heaviest grain bullet you can find in a hollow point, is the best you will be able to do. Such as 2-WNXHV22LR - Ammo .22 Long Rifle Winchester Plated Hollow Point 40 Grain 1435 fps 100 Rounds
any of these will do a good job......................
brand type bullet weight velocity energy
cci velocitor plated hollow point 40 1435 183
cci stinger plated hollow point 32 1640 191
cci segmented plated hollow point 32 1640 191
winchester hyper speed plated hollow point 40 1435 183
agulia interceptor plated round nose 40 1470 192
brand type bullet weight velocity energy
cci velocitor plated hollow point 40 1435 183
cci stinger plated hollow point 32 1640 191
cci segmented plated hollow point 32 1640 191
winchester hyper speed plated hollow point 40 1435 183
agulia interceptor plated round nose 40 1470 192
Get a shotgun!
About 8 years ago I paid about $160 for my Maverick 88, and after hundreds of shells later it has never given me any FTF or FTE issues.
If you are willing to spend $400-$500 in a 22 rifle for the fun of it, you should not have a problem spending half that amount to protect your home. And given the title of this thread, I'm sure it will reach a few pages very quickly (again).
About 8 years ago I paid about $160 for my Maverick 88, and after hundreds of shells later it has never given me any FTF or FTE issues.
If you are willing to spend $400-$500 in a 22 rifle for the fun of it, you should not have a problem spending half that amount to protect your home. And given the title of this thread, I'm sure it will reach a few pages very quickly (again).
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Dragon88
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This is a complete oxymoron.
.22lr has no "stopping power".
The thought of police responding to an incident and finding a perp with 25 little holes in him being held down by a 15-22-wielding homeowner is somewhere between comical and tragic.
thacheese
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if i recall the avg # of rounds to incapacitate a person is lower with a .22 (1.38) than most other calibers.
i'd go with aguila interceptors, i'm pretty sure they are the fastest 40grn .22 you can buy. maybe some cci segmented hollow points.
i'd go with aguila interceptors, i'm pretty sure they are the fastest 40grn .22 you can buy. maybe some cci segmented hollow points.
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I'd chose a reliable round with higher velocity than typical HV ammo... something like CCI Stinger IF they feed well in your rifle, or Aguila as mentioned earlier... but whatever you chose RELIABILTY is the first priority. IMO, rimfire reliability to feed and fire is more of an issue than anything else.
Below is a link to some data on .22lr compared to other handgun rounds.
As was mentioned earlier, 60% of the time an attacker was immediately incapacitated with one shot from a .22lr handgun, which is on par or slightly better than other handgun ammo in the report. My guess is that a .22 rifle with higher velocity would yield even better results. According to the data, the significant shortcoming of the .22lr compared to others is that if you don't incapacitate the bad guy on the first shot then that's about it... 31% of the time the bad guy is never incapacitated. Most all other handgun ammo failed to incapacitate the bad guy only 10-15% of the time.
An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
Below is a link to some data on .22lr compared to other handgun rounds.
As was mentioned earlier, 60% of the time an attacker was immediately incapacitated with one shot from a .22lr handgun, which is on par or slightly better than other handgun ammo in the report. My guess is that a .22 rifle with higher velocity would yield even better results. According to the data, the significant shortcoming of the .22lr compared to others is that if you don't incapacitate the bad guy on the first shot then that's about it... 31% of the time the bad guy is never incapacitated. Most all other handgun ammo failed to incapacitate the bad guy only 10-15% of the time.
An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
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ipittythefoo
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I say 25 rounds of 60 gr subsonic sniper comming out of the barrel sideways might stop someone... If thats your only option.
thacheese
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seriously? i didn't think those things even reliably cycled the bolt. subsonic isn't recommended for these rifles. i'd use a $1.50 box of lightning before i'd use anything subsonic.
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chuck s
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"Defensive .22LR" is an oxymoron. Sell the M&P15-22 and get something that works. Or just get something that works like an M&P9.
Headshots? You're kidding, right? The head is extremely hard to penetrate, even the Pope took a "headshot" and survived. The area around the bridge of the nose is about the only place you'll get penetration. If you can hit it. Target of last resort, but great gun store talk...
-- Chuck
Headshots? You're kidding, right? The head is extremely hard to penetrate, even the Pope took a "headshot" and survived. The area around the bridge of the nose is about the only place you'll get penetration. If you can hit it. Target of last resort, but great gun store talk...
-- Chuck
Yup!!!
.22lr will kill. Just ask a emergensy room Doctor, or a EMT.
Why do you think the Navy Seals, D-Boys, CiA, etc... Have them???
If .22lr is all you have go for it. There is no such thing as stoping power. Every human reacts differenty when shot.
Even people head shot sometimes live and fight a while.
Deer shot throuh the heart somtimes run a hundred yards or more before dropping.
So shot placment is king. Make sure WHERE your shots hit with a .22lr!!!
My two cents. - .22lr 40G HP ~1400fps. Head shot.
Guy22
If that is the only thing you have, its better than nothing. I guess hollow point would be best so your not poking holes thru the bad guy and into whatever is behind. As for "stopping power" read up on it CIA and FBI call it a myth. Too many variables and it depends on who the person is. Lots of articles on baddys hopped up on drugs taking lots of hits and still going, then look at Reagans assassination attempt a .22 did a lot more than I would have guessed it could. All the reports I've read say stopping power is a gun salesmans tool. Severing the spine at the base of skull is the only sure fire stopping place. From what I've been reading center mass isn't even the stand by anymore. Now its right below the sturnum where the femoral arteries branch off.
Excellent article. If all you have is a .22 for now, use it.
As several people have already stated, the 22lr is not the go-to round for self-defense. But my opinion is that an accurate, reliable gun is better than no gun at all, regardless of caliber. I have a .45 acp, 10mm, .357 mag, two .40 S&W's and two 9mm's. And yet, I often hike and camp, especially in the summer, with nothing more than my S&W M63 22lr revolver. Therefore, I guess I bet my life on a 22lr from time to time. To answer your question, I would go with a hyper-velocity hollow point, that cycles through your rifle reliably, and is accurate to the point of aim. I small game hunt a lot with a 22lr rifle and the three rounds that definitely make the most tissue damage are the CCI Stinger, Remington Yellow Jacket, and the new Winchester Xpediter. In your case, I would have to eliminate the Yellow Jacket because of the cone shaped bullet. They do not feed best in semi-auto guns. But either the Stinger or Xpediter should function well, and provide sufficent damage. Buy a box of both and see which ones your rifle likes best. That would be the winner.
thacheese
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don't forget about remington viper, never had any problems with those.
Will Carry
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While one shot from a 22 is not a good "man stopper". Ten shots from 22 ain't too bad. I would use Stingers or Yellow Jackets, but I really don't know if they will make much difference. Good luck!
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My 2 cents is CCI Stingers because they are extremely reliable in the 15-22 and have more energy from muzzle to 100 yards than most other 22LR loads. Because the recail is nothing on the 15-22 accurate rapid fire is very doable. Aim center mass and dump your mag as fast as you can into em and I'm pretty sure they won't be much of a threat anymore. Just get out to the range and practice. You can shoot the 15-22 pretty damn fast without getting off target. Don't know why people are mentioning different calibers, the op clearly is only asking about .22LR.
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