Why guns prices are going up....

[loutent]

A message from one large internet gun dealer:

After spending the first six weeks of 2012 attending various firearms industry shows, including the NSSF Shot Show in Las Vegas with the highest dealer attendance of record, there was one obvious recurring theme from every manufacturer we visited with...."we just can't make enough firearms". Although we fully expected another surge later in 2012, it has already started as the ATF continues to report all time record highs in background/NICS checks as well as Conceal Carry/CCW permit applications.

We are also experiencing record high sales on (dealer name), actually breaking our all time single day sales records TWICE this month ! Considering we had no special promotions going on, and we exceeded every sales record dating all the way back to 2003, it seems pretty clear ......"Here we go again !"

As the national media and general public become increasingly aware of the deteriorating supply and demand issues.....we ALL know what comes next....higher prices ! Although upsetting to most people, it can also be an amazing opportunity for those who are in a position to buy "early and often". Whether you are an investor, collector, or reseller...you would be hard pressed to find a single more lucrative investment than firearms at this time. If you are not currently in a position to buy ?....you should still be very happy about the future appreciation in value of your current firearms collection !

 

[old bear]

Yea as always prices are going up and popular models are getting harder to find. Three things have led to this, media hype, sellers using and using well the "fear close" and the Upcoming unpleasantness leading up to November 2012.

 

[Moonman]

old bear,
Many more females are in the firearms market place too.

 

[sophie]

I just don't understand why the mfgs. can't hire enough people to keep up with the demand of firearms. They use this excuse on firearms and ammo to drive the price up and are probably working a 4 day work week. Go figure.



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James

 

[ladder13]

I just don't understand why the mfgs. can't hire enough people to keep up with the demand of firearms. They use this excuse on firearms and ammo to drive the price up and are probably working a 4 day work week. Go figure.



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James

Takes awhile to find and train folks to build/assemble firearms. It's not like hiring Walmart greeters. What would they do with the extra workers when sales slump?

 

[Maximumbob54]

It's more comfort to spend money on a gun that will still be worth something in a year than it is to buy stocks or bonds and these days who can afford gold???

I don't know. I just think anytime that times are bad then you see people reach out to old reliable for protection from the darkness out the window.

 

[OK Hog Shooter]

Given these facts, I believe it's our American duty to support this industry in times of prosperity (huh?) and invest to the best of our ability. Personally, I favor carbon and stainless steel, exotic woods and hydrocarbon derivatives, brass, copper, lead and specific chemical compounds.

Ephesians 6:10-11

Blessings,
Hog

 

[ace22]

old bear,
Many more females are in the firearms market place too.

i agree. i see more women at gun shows now than i ever have through the years. in the past it seemed that many women were turned off by anything regarding guns. some still are now but it seems that many have a real interest in firearms.

 

[PALADIN85020]

I've said this before, but at this point in time I think the wisest investments one can make would be in quality classic firearms and gold. I've been buying classic guns in spits and spurts off and on for over 50 years, and am extremely satisfied with the continuing rise in the value of the stuff I selected in this time period. I got into gold in a modest way in 2008 when gold was about $900 an ounce, and it's now about $1800 per ounce. That's not bad appreciation in less than four years. I predict rampant inflation (you can see the beginnings now with the price of gas) over the next few years, and these things are the best hedge against it that I can see. The only downside about gold is that you can't shoot it!

John

 

[Fishslayer]

old bear,
Many more females are in the firearms market place too.

Oh no no no! I saw a "reputable" polling outfit that said the stats were no different from a few years ago!

All those women we see at the LGS, Turner's, whatever, and showing up to the range on their lunch hours are purely anecdotal and unscientific!

I say go for it gals! To quote a great sig line I saw, "If 10% of the deer shot back nobody would hunt!"

 

[Andy Griffith]

After spending the first six weeks of 2012 attending various firearms industry shows, including the NSSF Shot Show in Las Vegas with the highest dealer attendance of record, there was one obvious recurring theme from every manufacturer we visited with...."we just can't make enough firearms". Although we fully expected another surge later in 2012, it has already started as the ATF continues to report all time record highs in background/NICS checks as well as Conceal Carry/CCW permit applications.

We are also experiencing record high sales on (dealer name), actually breaking our all time single day sales records TWICE this month ! Considering we had no special promotions going on, and we exceeded every sales record dating all the way back to 2003, it seems pretty clear ......"Here we go again !"

As the national media and general public become increasingly aware of the deteriorating supply and demand issues.....we ALL know what comes next....higher prices ! Although upsetting to most people, it can also be an amazing opportunity for those who are in a position to buy "early and often". Whether you are an investor, collector, or reseller...you would be hard pressed to find a single more lucrative investment than firearms at this time. If you are not currently in a position to buy ?....you should still be very happy about the future appreciation in value of your current firearms collection !

While it is true...
This is an excellent subliminal advertisement- and that is exactly what it is. "Buy more, and it ain't going to be cheap, so get it while you can."

I'm not spending a penny, unless it's a steal of a deal- but that's my everyday motto. I have never been able to afford to buy a new gun- I've justified it once or twice though. Model 10's for $125, Winchesters for $200 and AR's for $300 (haven't found one of these yet) are my specialty.
This past year (2011) was the time to buy.

 

[MrJT]

Gun prices are going up because more and more people are buying them. Both new and repeat buyers. So: demand goes up, price follows.

 

[walnutred]

Forget the guns I'm buying powder and primers. In the summer of '08 I bought several K of primers for the going rate of $17.50 per K. Within a year they had doubled in price. I done "need" any more firearms. I do need to be able to reload for the ones I do have.

 

[rburg]

Yes, the prices go up. Did you know that a K22 cost $20 new back in the 1930s? Go ahead, decide you're not going to buy one until they come back down.

Basically guns have been the man's department. Been that way for decades. But now women have decided they're tired of being victims. So the few hundred women who shoot are suddenly being joined by 10s of millions of other women, half the population, who may want to at least investigate what its all about.

Just like every man who appears at a gun shop or gun show doesn't buy, the women won't all buy. But some will. And more crooks will learn about it the hard way. Think of it like the auto industry. For a long time women didn't drive. Then around the end of WWII they started driving. It opened up the auto industry, and created a boom for the auto body shops!! Ok, that was uncalled for, I'm sorry.

 

[Fishslayer]

For a long time women didn't drive. Then around the end of WWII they started driving. It opened up the auto industry, and created a boom for the auto body shops!! Ok, that was uncalled for, I'm sorry.

Uncalled for, maybe. But I still LAWLED!

 

[yaktamer]

Takes awhile to find and train folks to build/assemble firearms. It's not like hiring Walmart greeters. What would they do with the extra workers when sales slump?

Or the extra equipment. A couple of years ago, at the height of the last ammo/powder/primer shortage, I met one of the Hodgdons at the NRA convention. He told me that the reason that they weren't able to keep up with demand wasn't that they couldn't produce powder fast enough, but that they couldn't package it as quickly as they could make it. He said that they couldn't justify laying out $250K for another packaging machine for what they figured would be a temporary surge in demand. Given the ample supply of powder on store shelves now, I can't say he didn't have a point.

 

[novalty]

According to the advertising on the Cheaper than Dirt flyer I just got, it could be due to 12/21/12.

 

[Gunslinger808]

Hmmm, a online gunshop hyping fear and pre election jitters to inflate sales.
Say it ain't so!

 

[Rule 303]

Why guns prices are going up....

Simple one word answer:

DEMAND

Rule 303

 

[Bodabi]

I think this thing is about a lot of factors. Personal self defense seems to be a big one and the debates about dropping crime rates seem to support this but it is still an open question.
Grabbing an AR before you can't anymore? Way overhyped.
12/21/12... I don't think so. The economy and the unknown future? The future will always be unknown so its more hype than reality. Investment potential? I'm not sure but I'm open to the idea but not convinced. Collectors interest? yes but only in older guns. Future scarcity? Again, who knows what the future holds.
In summary, I opine that most if not all is hyped up by industry or middlemen. They are making the big bucks. After all, how many firearms do any one of us really need? A very open question.
A funny irony is that the best president for the firearms industry is Obama. And all the hype about him going nuts after/if he gets re-elected is just that. He has party constraints if the Dems want to stay in power.
Sorry for the rant. JMHO.