Forward Assist & Dust Cover/ Sport15

I wasn't implying that anyone would have to add anything to their stock rifle, sport or otherwise. I was simply eluding to the fact the most people do add after market stuff to their guns, to kinda make them 'their' gun, kinda like folks do with motorcycles. The now version that gmc selected is pretty much already decked out with after market goodies
 
No, you said I was trying to tell everyone else what was best for them or that anyone who didn't buy a sport was wasting their money. I didn't say either. I was clarifying what I DID say.
 
Really folks, has it not become obvious that there are so many variations on a theme that there simply isn't a one size fits all AR.

I love my Sport. It's my entry into some great gun sport. I'm a recreational shooter and it fits the bill for me. But I can understand someone wanting more and are willing to pay for it.

I hope that this somewhat contentious at times thread is laid to rest soon as it's doing no one any favors and surely proves nothing to those who's minds are made up from the get-go.

Regards to all,

Hobie
 

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I knew I would eventually be changing things on my sport, but I didnt see nor could I afford to special order a particular model and there are so many people buying magpul stuff that a MOE is just another M&P dressed up like every airsoft kid, I actually have been buying used parts, there are those out there with lots of money who change their gun schemes as often as my wife changes her mind and then they put the old stuff up for sale and most of it doesnt look old...I have a few packages coming monday so we will see how much my rifle changes, but I dont need a quad rail, its hard to see a prairie dog with a laser or a flashlight, and if someone try's to come through my front door my 45acp will send them right back out of it. I am just rambling, but I cant wait for my new to me pieces get here,,,but no there isnt going to be a quad rail or a bayonet or three of four different sight systems. I tried to lean it over and shoot it gangsta style and it didnt work for me......have fun....gonna watch a shoot out....with cars turning left!!!OK now you can make fun of me!!! :)
 
Well found out today my gun I ordered the Shot Show MOE wont be in production till end of march. I may choose a different M&P was thinkin on one of these two.

Product: Model M&P15A Rifle

Product: Model M&P15X Rifle

I have the A, but I would have rather have had the X. The dealer I bought mine from had my A on sale for 870, while the X was 1130 or so. The only difference in the two is the X and it's Troy Rail, which can be bought for a little over a hundred bucks. If price was similar, or within a hundred, I'd get the X. Both come with the Troy Industries Rear Battle sight.

I have since MOE'd mine out, so I won't be getting the Troy rail. That rail is probably the nicest I'd seen yet though.
 
My first advice is to be patient and wait for the Mid-Length MOE. I like the mid-length gas system. It has a longer sight radius & more room to position your weak hand.

I also prefer the specs of the the new mid-length MOE over the other two.

  • 4150 CMV
  • Melonite Treated
  • 1:8 5R progressive rifling

The mag-well is flared. The forward portion of the mag-well is serrated for grip. The finger shelf above the trigger. The enhanced flash hider.

According to the S&W website, the mid-length MOE also comes with the Magpul "Art of The Tactical Carbine" Volume 1 & 2 DVD's. I've watched both volumes, and they are very informative.

The mid-length MOE also has all the Magpul Accessories you would have eventually put on. It's got all the Magpul goodies I put on my 15-Sport.

Now if you really are impatient, then out of the two you were looking at I'd go for the model with the rails.
 
You might as well get one of the two you listed as alternates. These are addicting and you'll be wanting to add another before long anyways, and by then the new MOE will be out:D
 
Just a quick thought. When a piece of equipment needs a seal to keep dust and dirt out what do you see? You will find usually a cover or such that is bolted down with an o-ring or some kind of seal. For those of you who really really believe the dust cover is a requirement. Take your AR with a DustCover, remove the upper, take the BCG out and shine a flashlight into the inside of the DustCover. Look at how much light leaks through. Remember how small dust particles are? You dont think that the Dust Particles come through all that gap. Just another bandaid. Food for thought, Stay thirsty my friends. (just had to add that sorry)
 
Just a quick thought. When a piece of equipment needs a seal to keep dust and dirt out what do you see? You will find usually a cover or such that is bolted down with an o-ring or some kind of seal. For those of you who really really believe the dust cover is a requirement. Take your AR with a DustCover, remove the upper, take the BCG out and shine a flashlight into the inside of the DustCover. Look at how much light leaks through. Remember how small dust particles are? You dont think that the Dust Particles come through all that gap. Just another bandaid. Food for thought, Stay thirsty my friends. (just had to add that sorry)

I had no idea your name was actually Jonathan Goldsmith from the Dos Equis ad!!!!:D
 
I held and looked over a Bushmaster ACR at the LGS today. I read somewhere that Magpul sold the Magpul Masada design to Bushmaster, and voila... ACR.

I'm looking it over and keeping in mind the specs of the new Mid-Length 15-MOE. I think Magpul just ported over some of the Masada tweaks to the new Mid-Length 15-MOE.

The magwell flare, trigger guard shape, fore-end feel, grip feel, and the front magwell texturing looked similar.
 
All Ar,s suffer from not being clean and not lubed wet. They poop where they eat so the FA or dust cover is not the issue. Keep it clean and lubed is the answer. The dust cover or forward assist is not the problem. Get a Sport and be happy!
 
Does anyone ever regret not paying the extra to get the forward assist and dust cover that the Sport doesn't offer? I really like the sport but just feel like its not complete without these 2 features. I really like the rear site there coming out with now to. Is it necessary to get a chrome lined barrel in a AR platform rifle? Sorry for all the questions but I am about down to going and picking one up. Thanks!!

When I was in the Corps my M-16 had both and I had jams anyways because when your firing your rifle the cover comes open and grit (sand) does get in the chamber and FA didn't help much when that happened. I think its there for inspection arms only it makes that nice snap lol
 
Well I got the call today. My New MOE Mid-length is on its way. They said it may be in this Friday it shipped out this morning. This being my first AR-15 what needs to be taken apart and cleaned and lubed before I shoot it? Man I cant wait I'm off 3 days this weekend to.
 
i like it... but than again im biased... to me the FA and dust cover makes it feel more authentic..... i dont think i could get a sport IMO... not hating just my OR is just more my style thats all

plus its gives you another part to customize ;)
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All ARs suffer from the poop where they eat syndrome. The only thing that helps is keep it clean and lubed wet. The heart of the AR is the down fall of the direct gase impingement gas sysytem from day one.It works if clean and lubed pretty fair.
 

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