M&P Apex AEK trigger

[hogrider05]

Just got a email from Apex about this trigger. Machined aluminum, suppose to reduce pre travel and over travel by 20%.
Looks like they just released it.

https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid60.html

 

[setxwarrior]

Great. This just cost me $82.45. Ordered.

 

[hogrider05]

Great. This just cost me $82.45. Ordered.

Great, I'll wait for you to post a review before I order one.
20% less pre travel sounds real nice!!!!

 

[wrhk33]

The pre travel is so long that reducing it by 20% doesn't sound like very much of a difference to me. I just installed the APEX duty carry kit which made a difference but it is still a pretty crappy trigger.

 

[setxwarrior]

20% sounds like a significant amount to me. It is most likely all of the travel for the stock trigger needs just to overcome the safety mechanism. I also liked that the new design encourages you to line up and pull the trigger straight back. Also hoping that since it's made from solid aluminum, you should also get better "feel" for the reset.

Sorry you didn't like the kit. I feel that the true benefit is that the trigger upset is completely gone. Now taking away 20% pretravel should make it almost perfect. I can't wait.

Thanks to Randy and team for developing new stuff! Keep it coming!

Hog, I'll definitely keep you posted.

 

[Spartikus]

20% sounds like a significant amount to me. It is most likely all of the travel for the stock trigger needs just to overcome the safety mechanism. I also liked that the new design encourages you to line up and pull the trigger straight back. Also hoping that since it's made from solid aluminum, you should also get better "feel" for the reset.

Sorry you didn't like the kit. I feel that the true benefit is that the trigger upset is completely gone. Now taking away 20% pretravel should make it almost perfect. I can't wait.

Thanks to Randy and team for developing new stuff! Keep it coming!

Hog, I'll definitely keep you posted.

Can't wait to hear hear your review once you get it installed! I have the DCAEK kit and love it so interested to see how this trigger will make a difference with that kit.

 

[breyton490]

Great. This just cost me $82.45. Ordered.

One on the way for me as well.

 

[hogrider05]

I have a DCEAK in my 45c. It made a big difference in the feel of the pre travel but
it doesn't break until the trigger is almost against the back of the trigger guard.
If this trigger can reduce that by 20%, I'll be happy.
Also the stock trigger, for some reason, really irritates my finger.

 

[ttyndall]

You guys cost me too much money. I guess I will have to tell my wife that S&W has a good weapon but the trigger assembley was well below par and I had no alternative but to replace it to make it "Safe" to carry when we go out.
So to be "Safe" I just ordered the DCAEK kit, Ram, and the new AEK Trigger.

I really did not see a reason to order these parts but I want my wife to feel safe while I am carrying.

Total safety reasons. Nothing to do with wanting to try new and hopefully better parts.

This was for an M&P9c.

Ted

 

[setxwarrior]

Wow! I ordered this mid-day Thursday, and it's already here. Thanks Randy.
I hope to get this put in this week for a range report. It is incredibly light.

 

[breyton490]

I got the new AEK trigger the other day and after installing it, ran into some problems. I emailed Apex and received a call from Claire with info on how to resolve the issue.

On my M&P 40 full size, I had already installed the DCAK kit. After installing the new AEK trigger, the trigger bar would not travel back far enough to engage the sear.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P3PqUaOacys/T4WDGBzeW0I/AAAAAAAAEcs/DdhykymVkNM/s800/ATT00236.jpg

In the picture, the trigger is full depressed but the trigger bar no longer moves back enough to engage the sear (my gun has the mag saftey which is not engaged in this photo)

To fix this issue, Claire from Apex said I would need to tweak the candy cane bend on the trigger bar that engages the sear by opening up the loop a bit so the trigger bar would engage the sear. Open up the end of the candy cane loop the thickness of the Apex business card. I was told small increments would be plenty, do over do it or the trigger bar could break

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pXJVR-DfaUs/T4WBhQaaSqI/AAAAAAAAEcI/W6lzKSd2u5s/s800/ATT00152.jpg

 

[breyton490]

New Apex AEK installion video

Includes info on how to adjust the trigger bar as well.

AEK Install.mpg - YouTube

 

[bobkarno]

I am a huge APEX fan, but this just sounds like it has "trigger failure" written all over it. I hope you get that loop just right.

 

[JaPes]

So it takes the M&P trigger & turns it into an aluminum version of the Glock safe action trigger?

 

[SPR1]

It is a pretty amazing transformation.

 

[HillTop]

Any updates on what you guys think of the AEK trigger? Dose it just turn the trigger into a Glock trigger or a better M&P trigger?

 

[squiddo]

Any? Interested to hear the outcome

 

[robkarrob]

Warning about breyton490 posting about messing with what he called the candy cane bend (actually is the sear engagement loop; sear cam lobe; shepards loop). Changes to this loop can mess the timing of the striker blocker clearing the striker. You can get the striker to release, but if the striker blocker has not been lifted high enough, it will not clear the striker, and the striker will not contact the primer (no bang). It could also cause the striker to partially hit the blocker, but not enough to completely stop the striker. So it might cause the striker to lose inertia (hitting power) and not strike the primer will full pressure, causing some light hits.

The Apex FSS would be a big improvement, but costs $180. It reduces trigger pre-travel, pull, and over-travel. A trigger just to reduce a little pre-travel/take-up would not accomplish much. The more important reduction of the trigger travel would be to reduce over-travel and reset. Pre-travel to reach the start of the sear pull is a one time occurrence, when you fire. After that you just need to get to reset, as fast as possible, to get the next shot off.

Reducing trigger over-travel and reset will reduce trigger travel on all follow up shots. Not only will this allow firing subsequent shots faster, it also reduces gun movement and allows faster target acquisition. Competition shooters will verify this.

Check out this video I made. I installed only the Apex sear and striker blocker, and added my own over-travel stop. Or go directly to YouTube where you can choose full screen:

M&P Shield With Apex Trigger and Over Travel Stop - YouTube



M&P Shield With Apex Trigger and Over Travel Stop - YouTube



Bob

 

[HillTop]

Warning about breyton490 posting about messing with what he called the candy cane bend (actually is the sear engagement loop; sear cam lobe; shepards loop). Changes to this loop can mess the timing of the striker blocker clearing the striker. You can get the striker to release, but if the striker blocker has not been lifted high enough, it will not clear the striker, and the striker will not contact the primer (no bang). It could also cause the striker to partially hit the blocker, but not enough to completely stop the striker. So it might cause the striker to lose inertia (hitting power) and not strike the primer will full pressure, causing some light hits.

The Apex FSS would be a big improvement, but costs $180. It reduces trigger pre-travel, pull, and over-travel. A trigger just to reduce a little pre-travel/take-up would not accomplish much. The more important reduction of the trigger travel would be to reduce over-travel and reset. Pre-travel to reach the start of the sear pull is a one time occurrence, when you fire. After that you just need to get to reset, as fast as possible, to get the next shot off.

Reducing trigger over-travel and reset will reduce trigger travel on all follow up shots. Not only will this allow firing subsequent shots faster, it also reduces gun movement and allows faster target acquisition. Competition shooters will verify this.

Check out this video I made. I installed only the Apex sear and striker blocker, and added my own over-travel stop.

Link: M&P Shield With Apex Trigger and Over Travel Stop - YouTube

Bob

The Apex FSS trigger only cost $159.95.

https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid54.html

 

[Maximumbob54]

I've installed the DCAEK and the AEK Trigger. I thought both kits were pretty easy to install after watching the videos. They went into my 45c and it now has an amazing trigger. It went from being spongy and overly long to I was shocked at how light and short it was to the point of at first shooting poorly since it took a minute to get used to the radical change. This pic is pre AEK trigger, sorry, I will have to take a new one: