Model 617 10 shot anybody?

[Mrcharlie1]

Great information and pictures guys. I'm really looking forward to mine now. I understand the DA is smooth, but what is the average pull weight in DA. I'm okay with 8-10 pounds in DA. Has anyone done the lock removal and plug on their 617? Thanks.

 

[cal50]

I've had my M617 4" 10 shot for 2 or 3 years now. I picked it up to use in the local club 22 steel plate matches. With DS-10 speed loaders it can be loaded almost as fast a an auto. And with 10 rds. you're pretty much even with the autos.
I smoothed the action bearing surfaces a bit, but never had any luck with the Wolfe springs. Kept getting a few misfires.
But even without the Wolfe springs the trigger is very smooth.
And with the weight of the gun and the smooth double action, it's like cheating in the matches.

I kept the main spring factory / stock and replaced the rebound spring.
BIG difference and no misfires. The reduction in weight of pull is like a different gun. I polished up the mating / sliding surfaces and lubed with Mobil-1 oil. Its sweeeeeeeeeettttttttt!

 

[alde]

Has anyone done the lock removal and plug on their 617? Thanks.

Yep, and it was very easy and looks good. Mine was a 6" but didn't like the muzzle heavy feel. I bought a new barrel from Brownells and had my local gunsmith swap it for $50. I really love it now. On mine I really have to keep the chambers clean or the shells are hard to eject.

 

[one eye joe]

Yep, and it was very easy and looks good. Mine was a 6" but didn't like the muzzle heavy feel. I bought a new barrel from Brownells and had my local gunsmith swap it for $50. I really love it now. On mine I really have to keep the chambers clean or the shells are hard to eject.

YUP, chamber cleanliness is a necessity...............

 

[MTKTM]

I just put a 4" on layaway at Bud's. $685, ouch. I think it will be a great long term investment.

Is that a new gun? I have not seen a new one for less than $700 in several years, so that's a decent price. Repeating what others have said, the 617 is a great handgun. Mine is a 6" and I wish it were a 4", but like it just the same and use it a lot.

 

[Mrcharlie1]

I kept the main spring factory / stock and replaced the rebound spring.
BIG difference and no misfires. The reduction in weight of pull is like a different gun. I polished up the mating / sliding surfaces and lubed with Mobil-1 oil. Its sweeeeeeeeeettttttttt!

What kind of spring set was this from? And yes MTKTM, this is a new gun. Bud's is typically lower priced than most major retailers.

 

[LL617]

I received my 617 as a late Valentine's present. I go shooting with it as often as I can. Straight out of the box, shooting was an enjoyable experience. New to shooting, but had tried enough to know that I really like the balance of my 617 with its 6 inch barrel.

 

[one eye joe]

Is that a new gun? I have not seen a new one for less than $700 in several years, so that's a decent price. Repeating what others have said, the 617 is a great handgun. Mine is a 6" and I wish it were a 4", but like it just the same and use it a lot.

I haven't seen a new one for less than $700. in quite some time in my neck of the woods either....

 

[QuercusMax]

I've had my 617 6" for a couple months now and really like it.

It's a very substantial piece of metal; it looks great; I find it very easy to clean; and it equals or exceeds the accuracy that I can achieve with my favorite BuckMark. The only thing I'm not fond of is the very heavy trigger in DA mode (I haven't measured it, but it's the heaviest of any gun I have), which is unpleasant after a while. Thus I tend to shoot the 617 mostly in SA mode.

However, much to my surprise, I have been able to achieve just as tight groupings in DA mode as SA, and it got better the more I practiced.

My particular 617 did come with one unusual characteristic that I described in another post on this board.

 

[MTKTM]

I received my 617 as a late Valentine's present. I go shooting with it as often as I can. Straight out of the box, shooting was an enjoyable experience. New to shooting, but had tried enough to know that I really like the balance of my 617 with its 6 inch barrel.

I find the balance of the 4" to be more 'neutral' in the hand, whereas the 6" renders a definite downward pull from the muzzle. I think that makes the 4" preferable for rapid fire, or defensive-style shooting, whereas the 6" might be a little better for more slow-fire precision shooting, plus the 2" longer sight-radius might help just a bit.

 

[The Big Ox]

Here's my six inch, 10 shot cylinder 617 with Altamont stocks and fiber optic front sight. I love this gun!

 

[Mrcharlie1]

I finally got mine in. I couldn't wait to get it home for pictures so here's some crappy cellphone pics at the gun store counter. I don't see any need for trigger work on this one. The double action is very smooth and much lighter than I anticipated. This is a very well crafted machine and I can't wait to shoot it.

 

[kamloops67]

i shoot a 6" 17-5 and i like it fine, at the range i can hold my own against most. a friend recently picked up a new 6" 617 i tried it out and instantly i felt the extra weight out front,but in a good way. it was rock steady .he stoned the trigger assembly swapped in some wolf springs ...and now i want one!

 

[Clean Break]

Interesting gun & thread... do they make one without the full length underlug? Clean Break.

 

[AveragEd]

Clean, I don't think so.

I have 4" and 6" no-dash 617s with target triggers and hammers. I put spring kits in both, using the lightest springs in the kit. Both function perfectly.

Ed

 

[one eye joe]

Interesting gun & thread... do they make one without the full length underlug? Clean Break.

The 617 has a full length underlug in every barrel length........

 

[civil1977]

Interesting gun & thread... do they make one without the full length underlug? Clean Break.

They don't now but in 1991 they made some without the underlug as a limited production for Ashland Shooting Supplies. They are hard to find and are sought after by collectors.

 

[Jeepster1]

Wolff Mainspring in my 617

I put a full strength Wolff mainspring in my 4" 617, 10 shot and started getting lots of misfires even with the strain screw down tight. But, it feels a lot better in double action than the stock mainspring. I do not use it in competition, so the misfires really do not matter. I just go around the dial again and they usually go off the second time around. I was also getting a fair amount of lead spitting but a 'smith friend of mine opened the bullet entry point of the barrel very, very slightly and that made a big difference. I find the build up of lead around the top strap by the b/c gap annoying but that is what happens with copper washed lead bullets. I shoot 586/686 in SSR in IDPA and having a 617 to practice with is fantastic. All in all I am very happy with my 617.

 

[one eye joe]

They don't now but in 1991 they made some without the underlug as a limited production for Ashland Shooting Supplies. They are hard to find and are sought after by collectors.

I STAND CORRECTED ! ! ! I never knew this. Gotta be scarcer than hen's teeth........

 

[civil1977]

They are rare but several forum members have them. I also saw one 617 owner who machined off the full lug on his barrel since he wanted the no lug version but couldn't find one.