TSQUARED
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I agree with you 100% - well stated!
I purchased a Kahr PM-9 five years ago it has been my constant companion in a pocket holster ever since - reliable and accurate what more does one require.
Anyone else notice the irritation from Kahr owners about the shield
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I agree with you 100% - well stated!
I purchased a Kahr PM-9 five years ago it has been my constant companion in a pocket holster ever since - reliable and accurate what more does one require.
My CM9 is good enough..... But.....
My problem with the CM9 is I cannot accurately doubletap
Because of the trigger
I have owned, shot and carried a Kahr CW9 for a lot of years and can't imagine a better carry pistol. I have absolutely nothing against the Shield, looks like a pretty good gun but would not give up a gun as good as the Kahr to take a chance on something new. Fact is, Kahr makes a near perfect carry gun and I believe, considering prices these days, is not over priced. Again, the Shield looks like a fine gun.
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I'm a huge M&P fan but I have to say I agree on this. Personally I really think Smith should have made it smaller or at least made a 380 version that IS a real pocket pistol. I've been looking around for a Pocket Pistol for a while and I just don't care for the Khar and an M&P would have been a great option.
My main beef with the Kahr's is all the work they require right off the bat to fucntion properly. I had to sand down mag followers to get my CM9 to feed correctly and rack the slide a good 500 times (LITERALLY--I used gloves 
) to break it in. After that it worked great but it always left a sour taste in my mouth since I'm used to running Glocks and M&P's that have been rock solid from the first mag to 3-5,000 rounds and require no "fluff and buff".
) to break it in. After that it worked great but it always left a sour taste in my mouth since I'm used to running Glocks and M&P's that have been rock solid from the first mag to 3-5,000 rounds and require no "fluff and buff".
Pointblank2U
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The problem is that in a few years the Shield will be replaced or upgraded or whatever S&W calls it, (remember all those "generations"?), and you'll need new magazines, holsters and accessories. The old Glock 26 and 27s will keep trucking along. A magazine made today will work in the original Glock 17 twenty years ago. Also, I've been burned by S&W semi's few times in the past. At the very least I will wait a year on see on the Shield like I would any model new gun until they get the bugs out.
One bullet's difference (1/2") between normal man and Jolly Green Giant? I'm 6'1" 220. My EDC is a snub nosed k frame I pocket carry in an Uncle Mike's size 4. I have tried a Shield in my pocket and it fits nicely. Granted I wear loose fitting cargo khakis and if I'm in a suit it won't do. What sort of pants were you wearing when you found a Shield would not work for you?
Rufus
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I have a Kahr CW40, which has been a very reliable piece. I have never had a FTE or FTL on the gun. I fits perfectly in the center console of my car. With that said, I love my M&P 9, and I am eagerly awaiting some range reports on the Shield 40. I have absolutely no reason to replace my Kahr, but like so many of us, we love new toys.
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Kudos on the K frame snub; is it a model 10? I really like them.
A little change in height of the weapon makes a huge diffrence in pocket carry.
A jframe is an easy pocket carry, the cm9 is ok, but a little over a half inch makes a slow draw.....
Having a pistol fit in a pocket is a huge difference than having something that will draw quickly.
I fear i might actually incapacitate a bad guy because he is laughing so hard while I struggle with pulling a pistol from my pocket......... "sorry...... Mr bad guy..... I just need to get this out of my pocket..... Dont go anywhere"
Robinett_11B
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The Shield looks like a Desert Eagle next to a PM9...especially from the muzzle end.
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Oh really?
Doesn't seem much bigger to me.
(This was my CM9 but its the same size....)
8+1, 7+1
I can tell you from having owned both the Shield is a superior weapon. Only thing the CM9/PM9 has going for it is it's slightly easier to carry. The shield has a MUCH better trigger and MUCH softer recoil. I will trade the slightly smaller size for that anyday!
Yes indeed
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