Does it bother anyone else, or is it just me?
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feralmerril
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It`s always been around and a bone of contention on other gun chat sites too. Basicly I have heard two explainations. The oldest was that there was a shorter colt cartridge for the schofield when it was issued to the army and the .45 colt ammo was too long for it. That was a 120 years ago. I suspect now days its just slopply used to emphasise the differance between .45 acp and .45 colt.
butchd
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You're not alone but when major suppliers of the gun industry began to use LC it became acceptable. I conceded the battle at the same time "pistol" became interchangeable with "revolver".
Fishslayer
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No.... you're not being persnickety. MANY have asked that question many many times. The question is right up there with bear protection, 9mm vs .45 and clip vs magazine.
...just sayin'...
Go ahead & ask the guy at Walmart for .45 Colt ammo. Yer gonna get .45ACP every time. You might be right but you're still SOL when ya get to the range.
...just sayin'...
Go ahead & ask the guy at Walmart for .45 Colt ammo. Yer gonna get .45ACP every time. You might be right but you're still SOL when ya get to the range.
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mike from st pete
Member
Was there ever a .45 Short Colt?
wheelgun28
Member
we've been waiting for Colt to bring out the 45 short colt.
Bothers me, too.
Here's an interesting piece of info for the debate that I bookmarked some years ago:
45 Short Colt
Here's an interesting piece of info for the debate that I bookmarked some years ago:
45 Short Colt
I've heard this come up lots of times. I think it usually comes up when two gun guys run out of anything else to argue about
You must run in more cerebral circles than I do --- around here, arguments such as which is superior, Ford or Chevy, have usually deteriorated to fisticuffs long before anyone thinks to debate cartridge nomenclature...
My understanding is that there once WAS a reason to say "Long Colt." Nowadays, even with all the cartridge revivals associated with CAS, we probably don't need it. But, as pointed out above, it does remind a few people that you're not talking about .45 ACP (to which I refer to as .45 Auto, except when folks ask me what I'm shooting when they hear my 25-2; then I usually say "a .45 ACP revolver," rather than "a .45 Auto revolver," because I don't want them to think that I've got some weird limey gun).
ohiococonut
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Do you have a 45 Colt or a Colt 45? To some they are two completely different guns.
To some they are two completely different guns..45 Colt Government? There are pictures running around.
Edit: Whoops, got beat to it.
VAdoublegunner
Member
I think because guys who shoot 45ACP don't know enough to properly call it 45ACP and get all confused. Young whippersnappers!
mike from st pete
Member
.45 Automatic .45 (short and long of the this) Colt.
I got it now!
I got it now!
Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
Do you have a 45 Colt or a Colt 45?
Stevie
Member
Don't make a hoot to me...I suppose the term '.45 Long Colt' is official enough...I have factory ammo here labeled as such
Sort of like the difference between 9mm Parabellum...9mm Luger...9x19mm.
The .45 Long Colt deal might be more important to a fellow trying to stuff it into a .45 Schofield revolver
Whether the term came from the two different length .45 cartridges..the chance of confusing those with .45acp...or because of the existance of .38 long and short Colt ammo I have no idea?
For what it's worth..my Uberti Colt SSA clone has the caliber designation .45 LC stamped on the barrel.
Sort of like the difference between 9mm Parabellum...9mm Luger...9x19mm.
The .45 Long Colt deal might be more important to a fellow trying to stuff it into a .45 Schofield revolver
Whether the term came from the two different length .45 cartridges..the chance of confusing those with .45acp...or because of the existance of .38 long and short Colt ammo I have no idea?
For what it's worth..my Uberti Colt SSA clone has the caliber designation .45 LC stamped on the barrel.
buck460XVR
Member
I dunno, but it's just not the average Joe, but gun manufacturers, ammo makers and reloading component suppliers all do it too. To me, many times it avoids confusion, even in casual conversation. Many young shooters refer to their 1911 as their "Colt .45" or ".45 Colt". Adding the word "long" just makes it clear what one is really talking about. To me, it is just another "cultural colloquialism" and is not something to lose sleep over.
I cannot speak for the self-appointed internet "Grammar Nazis" tho.........
Actually, yes there was.
Alpo
Member
I've never understood the "they call it that to differentiate between 45 Colt and 4 ACP" argument. 45 shooters must be awful stupid.
I mean, we 32 shooters got 32 ACP, 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R Magnum and now this new 327 Federal, and we seem to be able to keep it straight.
But, it's not "recently", it's been called that for a hundred years. Yes there used to be a 45 Short Colt. No it was not the 45 S&W.
I mean, we 32 shooters got 32 ACP, 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R Magnum and now this new 327 Federal, and we seem to be able to keep it straight.
But, it's not "recently", it's been called that for a hundred years. Yes there used to be a 45 Short Colt. No it was not the 45 S&W.
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