so is anyone really worried that our guns could one day be illegal?

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the question stands..... id like to keep my gun and between the happenings in CO and what im hearing about the UN ****.... im starting to get a little nervous


btw... im not a political person so please lets keep the political blame out of this post and focus on whether or not we might lose our stuff...
 
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starting their big push, & they mean business this time. They are pullin' out all the stops. The only way to stop them is to vote. I fear the count will be a circus.

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I personally disagree with some of the NRA's agenda, but I am still a member. The NRA has grown to become the 500lb gorilla in the political arena advocating the recognition and preservation of 2nd amendment rights.

That being said, I'm also a member of the 2nd Amendment Foundation and my State's rifle organization.

I'm worried that one day civilian firearms ownership may, one day, be prohibited. If that day ever comes, I'll pack up and move just like some British ex-pat firearms enthusiasts did when Great Britian severely curtailed civilian gun ownership priveleges.
 
If you enjoy your guns, do what you can (within rule of law!) to make sure you can keep them. I was born and grew up in England, a country with no 2nd Amendment, but with a tradition of gun ownership by law abiding individuals.
It took one pedophile to make all handguns in the UK illegal. You have to accept all sorts of government intrusion to legally own a rifle or shotgun over there. Do NOT let that happen here. The government's job is not to tell any of us what firearm we can have in our own home.
 
and what im hearing about the UN
Not going to happen without a 2/3 majority vote in congress.
As to the banning by our Government, I doubt it as well.
Except for a few dingbats (the usual names) most congresscritters realize it's a death knell for their carreer.
And regardless of party, they don't want to comit political suicide and lose their cushy and profitable lifestyles.
Most of what you hear about banning firearms or hi cap mags is nothing more than window dressing.
 
Yes.

It has already started and will continue to gain momentum.

We live in a world where people believe what they see and hear in fictional show like CSI and Law and Order. So people believe that guns can do things that they really can't do and they believe what TV says about gun laws, gun buyers and gun related statistics.

Magazine bans. Ammo bans. Eventually, it can all lead to a total ban for real.
 
Nope, never going to happen. What are they going to do write us all checks and buy our guns back? They cant just take them! Besides even if they do ban "assault rifles" it will just be like last time where they just wont allow any more manufacturing of them or hi caps.
 
The problem is the anti gunners think banning guns (starting with scary looking semi- auto rifles and mags with too many bullets) will make them safer. They really don't understand that "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.) and the public will be a bunch of sheep without sheepdogs , and the wolves will have nothingto stop them except whining victims. The best we can do is support the NRA( and NO, I don't agree with everything they say) and bombard your politicians relentlessly. they want to keep their meal ticket and that means doing what their employers(US) want.
 
Nope, never going to happen. What are they going to do write us all checks and buy our guns back? They cant just take them! Besides even if they do ban "assault rifles" it will just be like last time where they just wont allow any more manufacturing of them or hi caps.

Ask the Brits and Aussies about getting paid for the guns they had to turn in. Gun owners are fools if they think it can't happen here! If they want them they will come and get them and you WON"T get paid for them either. How many do you think are going to get into a fire fight with the authorities - city, state, or federal when they come for your guns? If gun owners don't wake up and get out and vote this election there may be no reason to vote in the next election, slaves won't have the power to vote.:mad:
 
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As previously mentioned, there is no way to keep politics out of a discussion about the possibility of losing guns rights.

As a long time resident of CA that has watched anti-gun politicians and organizations conspire sucessfully to cause what has transpired over the previous decades, to deny Californian's the same firearm freedoms that you all enjoy and now express fear about losing them... my best word of advice is "Don't allow yourself to become complacent" by thinking or allowing yourself to be led into believing that it can't possibly happen in your state or the U.S.

I'm not being a chicken little alarmist... it's what I've lived through and watched happen in California.

Apathy... caused people to decide not to vote in mid-year elections, leaving only a minority (10-15%) of the voting public to decide key ballot measures or elect/keep a gun adverse politician into office.

Apathy... caused people to choose not let their politicians know what their vote could bring them come time for re-election by expressing their opinions directly, or at the very least, by joining the NRA (or the Second amendment of their choice) and let them be their voice.

There are approximately 4.3 million NRA members, it's estimated that there is between 200 - 300 million gun owners in the US... why aren't those numbers closer to each together?

At the county and local level, I've witnesses and have been a part of what can happen when gun owners stand up and speak out in large enough numbers, intellengently with clear reasoning, not emotionally... politicians will hear the message and back down.

California once had no waiting periods, no restrictions on the type of firearms we could own or buy, no risk of losing our ability to obtain the type of ammo we want or being limited in the amount purchased or posessed.

And the biggest insult of them all... we had no gun dealers or individuals from out of state throwing us under the bus by flat out refusing to sell any firearms to California, regardless of it being one of the legal ones for us to have... playing right into the hands of the anti-gunners by doing their dirty work for them.

Learn from California people... don't assume that it can't happen elsewhere, it will if you let it. Losing your guns rights will likely occurr at the State level first, before coming down from the Federal level, like it did with us.
 
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No ......... not so much illegal as "not yet approved".

What they do is this.........

They say "we don't want your guns ....... we just want you to have safe guns" so you don't hurt yourself or others with them.
Heck .... nobody can argue against not allowing unsafe firearms to be sold here in River City!!
Then they pass laws that say only guns that can pass an imposed safety inspection can be sold, lent, given, willed, used, possessed, bought, sold and etc. in the lovely community of River City.
They establish reasonable criteria for the inspections and it all looks pretty good to everyone ....... that isn't paying attention to this insidious tactic.

Because they only fund the verification department so a guy named Bob has the resources to verify the testing for one gun every other week between the hours of 1 and 3 PM.
But, once a gun is tested, passes and Bob verifies it, it does get on the roster of approved guns that are allowed to be sold, well ........ 'maybe' ...... eventually.

But .... to make double dog sure that the gun makers don't go slackin on the safety features, the approval for each gun (and it's placement on the roster) has an expiration, and the testing has to start all over again, which further strains the resources that Bob has to do the verifying, which in turn creates an even larger backlog .... Oh Dear!!

A scenario very much like this is now playing out in the Peoples Rebublik of Kalifornia ........ and you can bet it's coming soon to a state near you ............
And all while they keep us busy looking in the direction of them showing up at our doors and taking our guns ....... after deleting the second.

They don't need to take our guns, and they don't need to smash the second ......... the just need (and are) "helping us" by making guns safer for us.
They don't even have to ban something because it's not safe.
Just make it not available on the roster until it's tested ........ then don't ever get around to verifying it, so you can't lend, give, will, borrow, use, posses, buy, sell ........... and when you pass away, so does your gun ............ or it makes you heirs a bunch of outlaws.

And after a while (as Bob gets old, slow and feeble, and we get more safety conscious) only a weak assed .22 short, single shot, bolt action, 15 lb gun with roll bars, safety screens, a first aid kit ...... and safety interlocks that use a GPS so that it will only shoot in areas with a population density of less than the Antarctic, will get tested, verified and be available on the roster of approved guns for sale ........ and only after 5 years in testing (if ever) whilst carrying a $4K state firearm safety tax (to pay for the testing verification don'tcha know).

You can use the internet to see what guns are and (by omission) are not on the California roster, as well as the expiration date for the ones that are on it.
The make and models of guns not on it does not make any sense.
It is just what it is .... a very sneaky way to take guns away from us under the guise of helping us.

Nope ......... no need to infringe on the second here, just going about the government's work of "helping" the people to buy and use safe and sane firearms.

And I'm sure given a little time, even the slow minded lib's will muster enough brain power to come up with other similar and benign looking ways to get past creating an outcry that would be the result of them going about something as blatant as doing away with the second and/or coming to your home to get your guns.
 
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the question stands..... id like to keep my gun and between the happenings in CO and what im hearing about the UN ****.... im starting to get a little nervous


btw... im not a political person so please lets keep the political blame out of this post and focus on whether or not we might lose our stuff...

And that's the problem. If you don't get involved politically and vote for pro-gun candidates and donate to pro-gun organizations, you have no one to blame but yourself as the liberals take more and more of our freedoms and rights away.
 
Nope if they tried to take our guns from us it may trigger a civil war. I'll tell ya all now they are not getting mine!!! With that being said there has to be a better way to regulate sales from whackos, what that is I don't know. The gov't needs to enforce "current" gun laws and not try to re-invent the wheel and make new laws. I do see them banning automatic weapons and high cap. mags. I just hope the criminals get the memo about new gun control laws and follow them.....Yeah right! :rolleyes:
 
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There is NO Way they can keep guns or any other weapon for that matter out of the hands of bad guys PERIOD. The anti gun people know this and realize the only recourse is to ban all guns. If you are gullible enough to believe that this can't happen in the US then they have already won you over. Of course this can happen and the government has no intention of "paying" you for the guns you own. The ONLY recourse is to align yourself with an organization who has big political muscle. That would be the NRA. If you are not a member and not registered to vote you are NOT one of us. Just do it!
 
a gun is no good w/ out ammo,so stock up...........buy guns from your friends,co-workers etc w/ no paper trail,...should that crazy day ever come,they can't take what does'nt exist.....and vote.
 
To answer the OP's question: NO I do not believe guns will be illegal.

I personally disagree with some of the NRA's agenda, but I am still a member. The NRA has grown to become the 500lb gorilla in the political arena advocating the recognition and preservation of 2nd amendment rights.

I am 100% in agreement with this poster in regards to the NRA.
 
A previous poster mentioned the disparity of gun owners vs. NRA members.

As a long time NRA member and also a member of three local gun/sportsmen clubs I feel the NRA loses members due to its incessant mailers, phone calls and emails asking for ILA donations. I ignore most of them, donating what/when I can. Many former members don't have thick enough skins for this and drop their memberships, which is sad since we really do need the "500LB GORILLA" in our corner on Capitol Hill.

My biggest fear has become ammunition bans. The anti's are coming at ammo on all fronts, political, environmental, medical and social. We need to watch our backs, fronts and flanks closely and let our elected officials know, with no doubt we are serious about keeping our RIGHT to keep and bear arms!
 
Nope, never going to happen. What are they going to do write us all checks and buy our guns back? They cant just take them! Besides even if they do ban "assault rifles" it will just be like last time where they just wont allow any more manufacturing of them or hi caps.

Really????
 
Do I believe it? I am skeptical. I know who isn't skeptical,..... Jews, Russians, Poles, Cubans, Cambodians, and the Chicoms. KNow why? They all lost their gun rights and MILLIONS of them perished because they could not defend themselves from oppressive dictators. Just my two cents.
 
Flyer91... well said. I never thought I'd see our complicated "dangerous firearms" and roster nonsense being put into such simple terms where just about anyone can get the jist of how insidious it can be without an actual ban.

They tried it before and I'm sure another run will be made in restricting ammo.... I can hear the politicians now, "ANYONE can own a firearm, after all it's your Second Amendment right and we wouldn't want to stand in front of that... but ammo, well now Sonny... there's nothing in the Constitution regarding a right to have ammo for them there shootin' irons, but tell you what, we'll let you buy a bullet a month until you fill the one 5rd magazine you'll be allowed, and we'll call it the Barney Fife fair ammo distribution act...fair enough???".
 
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