500 Magnum recoil?

I put a scope on mine only because as I get older, a scope may help in hunting.
One deer 5 or 6 years ago was OK, but at only 35 Yds.

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Looks nice to me....:)
 
The most interesting load was 50 grains of black powder behind the Lyman 515141 bullet. Smoke and kick, shoot and wait for the area to clear to check targets.

I am definitely not trying to be nasty toward you here, I do some different things with reloading myself. I'm curious why you would try black powder when it is certainly inferior as a propellant when compared to smokeless and there are so many good smokeless powders for the .500? Don
 
Been shooting the S&W 500 Mag for many years, all I can say is, it depends on the load you are shooting. My 700 gr. at 1250 fps is brutal, and my 275 gr. load is like shooting a hot 44 Mag. I have shot a light weight S&W in 357 Mag, that had a very hard recoil, and I would rather shoot my 500 Mag then the light weight 357 Mag any day.
 
I put a scope on mine only because as I get older, a scope may help in hunting.
One deer 5 or 6 years ago was OK, but at only 35 Yds.

500scope.jpg


Looks nice to me....:)



this is the same 500 mag.from the performance center that i have except mine is a black and silver pinto...excellent shooters!
 
That guy was in for an obvious surprise right from the get go. He's an "I'll buy one cause they're the new fad" kinda guy and is clueless. I'd bet he sold it this next day!

No he didn't sell it but he was surprised. Can't say I didn't warn him though. We corresponded quite a bit a few years ago about Ranger Ricks big slugs and he decided to try them in his 4" model. He is a big bore enthusiasts and if I remember correctly he has a couple of Linebaughs.

Kennyb,
If you have a 6-1/2" pinto model I'd like to see a picture of it. I know the 7-1/2" model was a pinto and only 2000 were made. As far as the 6-1/2" model, only 500 were made in the configuration shown. I'd like to see some of the odd ball 500's floating around.
 
I love shooting my 500s. They are more friendly to shoot than my 44 mag. People bought the hype, or are used to shooting 38s.
 
I also love the 500's.
I have the JR Performance Center 5" and the factory production 6 1/2" models.
As some has said, the recoil isn't all that bad, just the brute push back force, espically when fireing the 500gr and 700gr bullet.
The 325gr isn't bad at all, the 400gr & 440gr has a bit more force.
Actually my 50AE Desert Eagle & .454 Rageing Bull has more flip up recoil than the 500 does using the 325gr in my opinion.
Even my S&W .460 has more recoil flip than the .500 but without the brute push back force.



Ernie
 
I was actually surprised the first time I shot my 500; I was expecting a lot more recoil. although it could be because it fits my hand really well. I have the 500 with the 8 3/8" barrel and was shooting 350 gr rounds. It goes back more into your hand than it goes up. Overall it's a fun gun to shoot, but 40 rounds will make your hand sore for a few hours.

In case you're interested, here's a video of the first 5 rounds I shot. As you'll see, not all that much recoil.

 
A "real man" can hang on to anything with a set of grips......Recoil is recoil..
 
Well, I've been shooting my 10.5" 500 for a month or two now, and I really enjoy it. I haven't shot any factory yet, but a variety of handloads. I've shot 330 gr lead RNFP with Trail Boss and Unique, and Berry's Plated 350gr with Power Pistol, 2400, and 300MP. The most powerful round I've shot was the max load of 300MP, which was running around 1600.

Assuming my chronograph is correct, these are still several hundred fps below a factory 350gr, right? I still need to play around with magnum primers and some slower powders. But I'm having fun.

About 15-20 of the stouter loads is enough for a range session if I still want to be able to shoot other things. But I must admit, full power 357 out of my 640 doesn't seem as much as it used to!
 
I still need to play around with magnum primers and some slower powders. But I'm having fun.

Reloading data like that from Hodgdon's doesn't recommend magnum primers, just Large Rifle. Most recommend brass like Starline which is built around LR primers. Don
 
I thought all the Alliant data is with large rifle magnun primers. Fed 215?
 
Mild to wild, stubby to huge

The 500 is not as bad as the myth makes it out to be.

But, it all depends.

Short and light uncompensated barrel, Vs long and heavy compensated barrel?

Light, normal or hot loads?

Bullet weight of 250gr or 700 gr?

My normal compensated 8 3/8" shooting Berrys Plated 350gr chronographed at 1640fps has just a little more kick than a 44 magnum. I have shot 50 rounds in one sitting as I was attempting to sight in both iron and red dot sights with various loads between 1450 and 1650fps.

Even my 51 year old wife shoots the 500 (sorry, no offense intended to all the shoot it once and sell it types).

Here is youtube shooting 385gr Remington Core-Lokt in reduced load A5744 at 1145fps.

Bonnie shoots the S&W 500 - YouTube
 
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I thought all the Alliant data is with large rifle magnun primers. Fed 215?

I don't know abou Alliant but both Hodgdon and Accurate Arms Powder specify Winchester's WLR primers. I think Federal's 215 is WAY too hot, that's what is used in max loads for the .458 Win Mag and, I believe, the .460 Weatherby.

Suspect that such hot primers may cause significant pressure excursions. Don
 
As with most things, the recoil of the M500 Smith is highly "over-reported." The gun kicks, but not nearly as violently as some would have you believe.
I own the 6.5" model and absolutely LOVE the kick of the "mild" 300 grain loads producing "only" 1100 lb-ft of KE. I find the 350 grain Hornady bullet at 1550 fps/1867lb-ft KE to be stout but not at all difficult to handle. The big gun pushes "back" more than it flips up so you feel it in the palm of the hand and a cylinderfull of 350 grain Hornadies will make you shake your hand.

I've shot all manner of light-weight revolvers and pistols with hot hand-loads and none have ever given the same, or similar sensation as the M500 Smith. About the closest sensation I can remember is firing the M629 Mountain Gun (29oz.) with top, .44 mag loads. The short barrel .44 kicks straight back into the palm like the M500 does and you KNOW you've just touched off something powerful.

Bear in mind that barrel length and actual chronographed - not advertised velocity and kinetic energy is where "truth" lies. One reason the super-short barrels of ANY caliber are "shootable" is because the bore-time is so short and muzzle velocity is much lower than the longer barrels.

For example, the HSN ammo I chrono'd at 1550 was advertised to go 1700-ish which is a BIG difference in KE, however, most .500 loads are probably being chrono'd from longer barrels to create more impressive numbers...so figure any chronographed loads you see are from 8.375" to 10" barrels unless they specifically state otherwise.

Don't let anyone kid you...a 275 grain solid copper bullet from a 4" barrel M500 loaded to the top will cancel the ticket of ANY creature on the North American continent if the shooter has the stones to "Stand and Deliver." That is to say, short barreled revolvers are more efficient with lighter bullets. The ideal handload for the 4" models is something in the 275 or 325 grain Barnes X bullet with high ballistic coefficient and the potential for deep pentration at close range.

Ideally, the 6.5" barrel is only marginally heavier than the 4" meaning similar balance, yet added speed, and in fact is probably the ideal "field" revolver of the model line.

IF one is handloading then a host of options opens up, but it must be remembered that lead bulelts are going to shave metal as they pass the barrel ports on the 6.5" and this cannot be disassembled for cleaning. I would advise using only jacketed or copper plated bullets for the 6.5".
 

Exact model I have (if that's a 6.5" barrel)! I hadn't a thought in my head about buying a revolver, much less a 500 MAGNUM! I actually felt contemptuous toward the 500 Magnum and had dismissed it from my mind...until I saw the one above listed on Gun Broker, unfired, all the paperwork and a Performance Center Rug to carry it in. My bad attitude was immediately cured and I hit the "Buy-it-Now" option. I haven't have a chance to shoot it yet, but I have removed that infernal lock and put THE PLUG in. I'm going to send it to a top-rated gunsmith for an action job, and to get him to permanently attach the flag to the hammer to fill that 1/8" void it leaves when you remove it.

Beautiful, beautiful revolver. Mine came with a cant-lever Piccatinny rail that screws onto the barrel and puts a rail over the top of the cylinder so you can get your scope beck from the gasses escaping the muzzle brake.
 
...If one is handloading then a host of options opens up, but it must be remembered that lead bulelts are going to shave metal as they pass the barrel ports on the 6.5" and this cannot be disassembled for cleaning. I would advise using only jacketed or copper plated bullets for the 6.5".

Is this phenomenon present only in the 6.5" barreled models?
 
Yes, the new comp 4 and 8 3/8" models have a lead bullet comp without top vents to prevent leading like this.
 
Yes, the new comp 4 and 8 3/8" models have a lead bullet comp without top vents to prevent leading like this.

Just to clarify, the 8 3/8" compensator for lead still has top vents, in the form of a large oval top hole, to provide relief from vertical recoil. This compensator extends a little further out from barrel than jacketed compensator which sits flush with barrel housing.

The lead compensator still allows gases to go straight up and out (as well as to the sides) partially through the top oval extended hole, instead of going into 6 small top holes and through a portion of barrel housing. Any leading would be easier to clean with compensator designed for shooting lead. This can be used for jacketed as well.
 
Been shooting the S&W 500 Mag for many years, all I can say is, it depends on the load you are shooting. My 700 gr. at 1250 fps is brutal, and my 275 gr. load is like shooting a hot 44 Mag. I have shot a light weight S&W in 357 Mag, that had a very hard recoil, and I would rather shoot my 500 Mag then the light weight 357 Mag any day.
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Although I've not experimented with a lot of heavy loads with my 4" 500, I much prefer the recoil of it compared to a 329 or 340 unless they have appropriate grips (not the ones supplied with).
IMO, grips makes all the diff in the world.
 
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