M&P SHIELD 0.40 CALIBER MAGAZINE DROP PROBLEM POLL

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OKFC05 said:
I see quite a few people (with various pistols) who insist on loading with the slide closed, and then get a magazine drop after firing. This is caused by not fully seating the magazine against the 1/2 round additional compression of the magazine spring, which can be verifed if the magazine does not drop when loaded from an open slide.

I believe both sides of the story: quite a few people are having trouble with magazine drops, but only a few guns have actual mechanical defects that need new parts.
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I'd be willing to bet it is USER ERROR more then an actual defect. I noticed the above happens to me on my FS 40 & 45 if i have the slide closed when i stick in a loaded mag. I really gotta jami it in to seat it. If i leave the slide open...NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! :D
 
NICKTHEFISH said:
I'd be willing to bet it is USER ERROR more then an actual defect. I noticed the above happens to me on my FS 40 & 45 if i have the slide closed when i stick in a loaded mag. I really gotta jami it in to seat it. If i leave the slide open...NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! :D
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And that is a bet you would lose. This has been covered in prior posts. Unfortunately it is the gun.
 
CJWig said:
I called S&W about my magazine drop problem on the Shield 0.40 and the guy seemed clueless but after checking they will send me the replacement mag release part. Just curious how widespread the problem really is for this gun. Thought that I would take a poll on whether you have had a magazine drop problem on a factory new Shield 0.40?
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This isn't just a Shield issue, I have a S&W MP 9mm Pro, and I had that same issue. Problem turned out to be a worn mag release lever. My gun, however, was a S&W sales rep demo gun, prior to me purchasing it. So it got handled a lot, and got a fair amount of wear and tear, even though it wasn't shot much. (mags inserted, released).

this is something all MP owners should keep an eye on.
 
NICKTHEFISH said:
I'd be willing to bet it is USER ERROR more then an actual defect. I noticed the above happens to me on my FS 40 & 45 if i have the slide closed when i stick in a loaded mag. I really gotta jami it in to seat it. If i leave the slide open...NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! :D
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Thats the silliest thing i ever heard, please explain to me how you can rack one in the chamber, and fill your mag back up to capacity, leaving the slide open???

I own 12 hand guns and never heard that one before, trust me its the gun!!!
 
New 40

Shot 100 rds this weekend with no problems. Wife shot 50 rnds (shoots gun better than me ...hammered bullseye at 7 yds.

Lucky so far still no problems;however did notice loose fit when gun was hot. My serial is DXV.
 
DXT, 40 Same problem, gun is at S&W and now cant check status because customer service and repair is closed until 10 August. I have two glocks and now wish I had three. Never again will I buy a Smith and Wesson.
 
Bill340 said:
Thats the silliest thing i ever heard, please explain to me how you can rack one in the chamber, and fill your mag back up to capacity, leaving the slide open???

I own 12 hand guns and never heard that one before, trust me its the gun!!!
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I never said i had one in the tube already!

What was meant was if the slide was forward because i just finished emptying the mag, i would shove a new loaded mag in the pistol then have to rack the slide! This is what i am talking about!

better?:rolleyes:
 
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Shot another 100 rds yesterday. No problems but mag gets very loose after about 50 rds. Short mag shoots better groups than long one! Makes no sense but holds true for me and wife. I have only shot light loads and am concerned about when I start using defense loads. (will shoot heavy loads after about 500rd break in), I'm also keeping both mags loaded to try and weaken springs! From watching "U" tube, reading forum, and shooting gun problem seems to be in mags----sides to weak and springs too heavy---just a thought from my view.

Thanks everyone for your input here. It has really helped me. Wish I had read them before I got the gun!

Windage& Elevation
 
My shield .40's number is DXP2... No problems of any kind. Approximately 300 rounds through it, both range rounds and defense rounds.
 
POLL UPDATE:
It look likes approximately 2/3 (28 of 45 reports) of the Shield 0.40 owners in this forum are experiencing the magazine drop issue. How can S&W act so clueless? The answer is that they are not being truthful with their customers, which is worse than the problem itself. The good news is that there many choices for modern gun owners other than S&W. As for me, I've been waiting for three weeks for my magazine release replacement part - too long and not acceptable.
 
Guess my Shield 40 will be going back to my dealer tomorrow. It's a shame because I really like the gun, but I'm having the same drop mag problem with the extended mag. Called Smith and they sent another mag catch.....same problem. I would be a little more inclined to see the problem through if I hadnt had such a bad experience with my Bodyguard 380. It seems like Smith is following the same business practice as some software developers. Ship the product and we'll make it work later. Totally unexceptable in my opinion.
 
Has anyone got a legitimate response from S&W yet? Like we have new magazines or new magazine catches in the pipeline...or anything to acknowledge the problem and they are prepared to deal with it? I sent mine in about ten days before their shutdown and haven't heard anything.
 
CJWig said:
POLL UPDATE:
It look likes approximately 2/3 (28 of 45 reports) of the Shield 0.40 owners in this forum are experiencing the magazine drop issue. How can S&W act so clueless? The answer is that they are not being truthful with their customers, which is worse than the problem itself. The good news is that there many choices for modern gun owners other than S&W. As for me, I've been waiting for three weeks for my magazine release replacement part - too long and not acceptable.
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unfortunately your going to wait at least 2 more weeks fr your mag part, they are closed for 2 weeks , starting 7/31
 
doriandk said:
Has anyone got a legitimate response from S&W yet? Like we have new magazines or new magazine catches in the pipeline...or anything to acknowledge the problem and they are prepared to deal with it? I sent mine in about ten days before their shutdown and haven't heard anything.
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Mine got there 7/16. so your not alone, i called the day they shut down and all i was told its in line for service, but that they are closed for 2 weeks, be patient, but they never acknowledged any major problem. Unfortunately, i have yet to see anyone post that they got one back and were satisfied with the fix, Several people got new mag catches, and installed them but i dont think it solved the problem, so if anyone is out there that got one back yet, speak up
 
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CJWig said:
POLL UPDATE:
It look likes approximately 2/3 (28 of 45 reports) of the Shield 0.40 owners in this forum are experiencing the magazine drop issue. How can S&W act so clueless? The answer is that they are not being truthful with their customers, which is worse than the problem itself. The good news is that there many choices for modern gun owners other than S&W. As for me, I've been waiting for three weeks for my magazine release replacement part - too long and not acceptable.
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Has anyone actually got one back that was happy with the fix?????
 
I went to the local indoor range today and rented the Shield 40. The magazine popped loose on the first shot. I thought maybe it was something I was doing so I tried adjusting my grip, but it continued to do the same thing. I also had one FTE and one FTF, but maybe those were results of the magazine issues? I was using Magtech ammo and was using the 7rd extended magazine. When I turned it back in they told me that others who had shot that same pistol had the same issue. I would also echo what others have said about the magazine fit being loose or sloppy feeling. A few times I fired and would double check the magazine and it felt loose even when it was fully seated. Even if that is OK I still don't like how it feels. After reading this forum I called the range and advised them they may want to send theirs back! Not sure what the serial number is on that one since I didn't see this forum until afterwards.
 
Bill340, As I stated in an earlier post, mine dropped the mag on the second shot after having it "REPAIRED". They replaced my first lower with a DXT serial number for one with a DXV serial number. Made no difference what so ever in it's dependability. These guns need to be recalled before someone is seriously hurt.
 
djdig said:
As someone stated before it was probably a bad run of some of the .40's. I own both guns and have fired both of them 500+ rounds through their paces, whether it be target practice or fast paced ammo dumping. I mean if "everyone" had this problem I would jump on the bandwagon, but S&W seems to know about it and has a fix, frustrating I know, but this is what happens when everyone jumps to brand new cutting edge equipment. There is always the possibility of a "human" beta test.
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You must know something the rest of us don't. What's the fix and since when has "human" beta testing on firearms become acceptable? Mine is as FUBARed as it was when I sent it in for repairs. These are deadly weapons and not some yuppie computer operating software that can be released and BETA tested. This problem and S&W's response to it demonstrates a complete irresponsibility to us customers and does nothing but further fuel the fires of the anti-gunners that claim how unsafe firearms are. This gun is extremely unsafe.
 
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