How to handle using restroom IWB?

How do you handle removing your IWB weapon when using a public toilet?


Ya got to be kiddin', right?


Wouldn't ya practice those drills at 'Head'quarters or at your own privy?


FWIW, this is one of the reasons I advocate the separate gunbelt...Pull gunbelt up...Trousers down,

Gee Wiz...life shouldn't be so difficult. ;):D:rolleyes:


Su Amigo,
Dave
 
There is a Police Station Men's Room in a northern Rhode Island town that has two .45 caliber holes in it, one in the stall divider, one in the ceiling resulting from use of the coat hook to hang a Glock. I can almost understand the first round, but the second? Thankfully, neither slug drew blood, but I'm told that the Detective involved was docked a week's pay and the paperwork was hell...
 
Agree w/tops If you can't figure this out????
With my cross draw there is no problem. Leave everything in place and it rests on my lap. With hip pocket carry I have to put the pants down a little lower. With front pocket carry everything stays in place. Where's the problem???

Was working part time security guard in San Antonio some years ago when a fellow guard shot himself while preping to take a dump. A great story but tooo long to post right now. :)
 
Wow. Can't say I've ever considered removing it from the holster or removing the holster while using the toilet. Just keep your pants around your thighs (you're in a public restroom and those things are dirty. You don't want your britches on the floor) and use some outward pressure to keep the durned thing in place.

Tapatalk ate my spelling and grammar.
 
I think it was LENS that said in his state if you leave a gun in the rest room you can lose ALL your guns! What state is that, and how does the PD have authority to steal all the rest of your guns? Yeah, its dumb but I have seen it happen with another guard where I worked. On top of that, whats with the cop getting a free pass over a peon citizen? That stinks to the max! You slide if your a cop but lose all your guns if you aint? Yet you are just as legal? No wonder people get fed up and bash cops. Something wrong here! I carried over 35 years. Most cops retire with less than that. When you work tons of OT you once in awhile see it happen. The guard that left his in the rest room that I referred to also was a reserve cop on his off time. He left his in a factory restroom and a janitor found it. I dont think much happened to him. Years ago I had a captain that lost one. He also was a ex cop. It does occasonaly happen!
We have this holyier than thou thing. Usualy its by a newby that just got his permit or a young officer and the novelity of packing hasnt wore off yet. I doubt someone with 20 years or more experiance would be so quick to damn, because whether they want to admit it or not, its either happened to them or a co worker.
 
I think it was LENS that said in his state if you leave a gun in the rest room you can lose ALL your guns! What state is that, and how does the PD have authority to steal all the rest of your guns? Yeah, its dumb but I have seen it happen with another guard where I worked. On top of that, whats with the cop getting a free pass over a peon citizen? That stinks to the max! You slide if your a cop but lose all your guns if you aint? Yet you are just as legal? No wonder people get fed up and bash cops. Something wrong here! I carried over 35 years. Most cops retire with less than that. When you work tons of OT you once in awhile see it happen. The guard that left his in the rest room that I referred to also was a reserve cop on his off time. He left his in a factory restroom and a janitor found it. I dont think much happened to him. Years ago I had a captain that lost one. He also was a ex cop. It does occasonaly happen!
We have this holyier than thou thing. Usualy its by a newby that just got his permit or a young officer and the novelity of packing hasnt wore off yet. I doubt someone with 20 years or more experiance would be so quick to damn, because whether they want to admit it or not, its either happened to them or a co worker.

State is MA otherwise known as Commiechusetts. A permit is required for mere possession of ANY guns, ammo, ammo components or large capacity magazines for any guns! Said permit is discretionary issue from local police chief and can be Suspended/Revoked for any/no reason whatsoever! Per MA law, refusal to turn over all guns/ammo/components/magazines instantly on notification of suspension/revocation is a separate crime punishable by a jail sentence. Said PD can turn them into a bonded warehouse of the PDs choosing and since they aren't regulated, the fees charged accrue to more than the value and can be sold (pocketing all monies) after 3 months. Courts in MA have upheld all the above as perfectly legal. [I teach a MA gun law seminar, covering all this stuff. To make matters worse if two people live in the same household, they will confiscate BOTH persons guns/etc. even if they don't confiscate both permits (which they can also do). Check out the current case Jarvis v. Village Vault in USDC-MA at www.comm2a.org which is trying to stop this practice.]

I know of a person who stupidly left a bellybag with gun in a shopping cart of a local supermarket. It was turned into the supermarket, manager found gun and notified local PD. Person lost all their guns and permit. I verified this story with the two police chiefs (both personally known to me) involved.

There was a news story on a deputy sheriff that left a gun in the rest room at a highway pit-stop. Said deputy was reprimanded internally but lost nothing. That's just the way it goes in this state.
 
Wow! If I lived there I would move, but then again I guess we cant leave a good job or whatever. Why is that state so entrenched on liberalism? On another thread I mentioned barney frank. How can people re elect some gay that has a partner that ran a male prositution ring out of their house? It cant be that over half the voters are gay? Thats impossible. Once shame on you, but twice and more shame on me!
I can understand that indivigal departments might try to make illegal policey and rules but it seems to me that say if I accidently left a legal gun in a rest room that it would be illegal for the department to outright steal all my guns! Especialy moreso if they let on of their own cops slide on it if you could get that evidence put together. If such a citizen sued in court I dont see how they would lose. If that was challanged and lost we are already no better than any dictatorship like north korea, china or old communist russia! I got this today in one of those pass it on E-mails.
Australian Gun Law Update�
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia

Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to
surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by ou own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers
more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria
lone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that
while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not
and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically
upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed
that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and
assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was
expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You
won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or
members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the
hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control
laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Will you be one of the sheep t turn yours in?
WHY? You will need it.
 
Simply this:

MA Law allows a police chief to suspend/revoke a gun permit for ANY and ALL reasons (doesn't like you, your hair color, you forgot to shave yesterday, etc.).

MA Law REQUIRES you to turn over all your stuff at the same time they come knocking for your permit. Failure to do so immediately is a criminal offense.

MA Law allows the police chief to dispose of your guns/ammo/etc. to a bonded warehouse and they can sell your stuff after 3 months and pocket the money (this is the condensed version).

So you have no rights in MA, period.

MA has a lot of jobs that don't exist in friendlier places and many of the best hospitals/medical care that money can buy. Those are just some of the reasons people stay. My plan is to escape to NH as soon as my Wife decides to retire from her current job (medical research, which doesn't exist in any part of NH that I'd want to live in).
 
Is mass. in the united states? Sounds like a poster model of how the socialists want the rest of us to be.
 
MA has a lot of jobs that don't exist in friendlier places and many of the best hospitals/medical care that money can buy. Those are just some of the reasons people stay. My plan is to escape to NH as soon as my Wife decides to retire from her current job (medical research, which doesn't exist in any part of NH that I'd want to live in).
I escaped the Republic of MA in 1995 and have never looked back. I still work in MA, which is why I wanted a non-resident CCW permit, but now live about 15 minutes over the border and about 60 minutes from Boston.

If you're willing to live in northern, northern MA (aka. southern NH), there are a lot of very comfortable options available, not to mention the whole 0-day waiting period for handguns and ~3-day turnaround time for a CHL.

- Dave
 
I have some storys on that!! I dont know how far I can get away with them here. Once I got a call to relive a guard at a gate. I got there and it was about a 110 degrees in his shack at a busy drive through gate. He was waveing traffic through instead of on his feet sticking his head in their windows, and sitting with a rain coat on a waste basket! He said hand me that roll of paper towels, will ya pard?
I have a few better ones yet, but know I cant get away with the storys.
 
We can find good and bad things in every state or area of the country. It just seems that the small old state of Massachusetts seems to be the core of liberalism in the country and as one of the very smallest states can so adversely affect the rest of the united states and we let it dictate to the rest of us.
 
I certainly appreciate all the responses some are really great and I am sure there will be more you guys have some great ideas, I did not intend this to be funny but it is not when you have to go really fast...maybe at 59 I should just get Depends Adult Diapers.

Thanks to all for their responses. I have seen some great suggestions and some good stories, never had an idea there would be that many responses to a topic but it had to be asked!

BTW I carry with a Minotaur MTAC for both my Shield 40 and also for the bigger M&P's in other words I have two different Minotaur holsters, had to buy the other for my Shield!
 
When I'm using the bathroom in public, particularly the stall, I slide my carry piece into one of my front pockets on my jeans until I'm ready to reholster it. We had a fellow officer from a neighboring department leave his service piece on top of the toilet paper dispenser in a local Pizza Hut on his lunch break a few months back. Not good...
 
I recently found out during in-home testing that it seriously depends on the holster being used. My Sof-Tuck would allow the holstered pistol to flip upside down onto the floor. However, my new Super Tuck holds the pistol safe 'n secure, no matter how baggy my jeans become.

As with everything, YMMV.

- Dave
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In a world of compromise, some people don't. We carry Smith & Wesson.
 
We can find good and bad things in every state or area of the country. It just seems that the small old state of Massachusetts seems to be the core of liberalism in the country and as one of the very smallest states can so adversely affect the rest of the United States and we let it dictate to the rest of us.

Are you forgetting this is the same state that has provided generation after generation of Kennedy-persons?

(I don't believe I know the plural form of Kennedy, sorry, and in my incredulity, I didn't take the time to research.)

(PS... I hope you don't mind that I capitalized United States in your quote above.)
 
There is a Police Station Men's Room in a northern Rhode Island town that has two .45 caliber holes in it, one in the stall divider, one in the ceiling resulting from use of the coat hook to hang a Glock. I can almost understand the first round, but the second?

I heard a similar story about an incident involving a 1911 and more than two rounds. I can't remember when/where it happened now, but I think it was back in the '80s, maybe down around Indianapolis. Apparently the safety lock somehow got snicked off before the pistol was placed on the hook, and when the owner tried to retrieve it from the hook the resulting incident nearly qualified as a "full-auto 1911 ND." Before the owner finally got control of the piece it may have been empty.

It is an old story - maybe nothing more than that - but if true, one can only imagine the "excitement"!! :D
 
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