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>> ANY MORE ? <<
We've all been flushed a time or two
We've all been flushed a time or two
Forum History- Any members from 2000 left?
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Same here
Do you know your original User ID's?
I can check if they still exist.
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Below is a list of members from Feb and March of 2000.
2-29-2000 is the earliest date.
If the 'Last Activity' field is blank, they have not logged in since we moved in June of 09.
2-29-2000 is the earliest date.
If the 'Last Activity' field is blank, they have not logged in since we moved in June of 09.
fat tom
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dewey
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Just
User ID and month, Feb or March 2000 in which
that person joined.
Pineing Away for the good 'ole days .
dan
User ID and month, Feb or March 2000 in which
that person joined.
Pineing Away for the good 'ole days .
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That is correct.
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THANKS LEE
OPENED Second time around....DAN
OPENED Second time around....DAN
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Hey Bill
Not to be negative, but I know some folks left after we got to 2,000 members 'cause the Forum lost it's 'Family Feel'. Of course it's good to have a ton of new people to help spread S&W Info.
Down side is, people looking to Buy or Sell their Smiths now know what they are worth and the internet STEALS have disappeared !
Gone are the days of getting 98% 5 screw in the box for less than $1,000.
Dan
Not to be negative, but I know some folks left after we got to 2,000 members 'cause the Forum lost it's 'Family Feel'. Of course it's good to have a ton of new people to help spread S&W Info.
Down side is, people looking to Buy or Sell their Smiths now know what they are worth and the internet STEALS have disappeared !
Gone are the days of getting 98% 5 screw in the box for less than $1,000.
Dan
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I'd appreciate help from the early guys with Forum History.
Who started it?
When did parabellum take over?
Any idea who the first hosting service was?
Who started it?
When did parabellum take over?
Any idea who the first hosting service was?
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Parrabellium started it when he moved to Atlanta
We were members at Gunspot where SmithNut was very active but I'm not sure who was the mod there...Para was the 1st Mod here, IMMICorrect.
SmithNut started helping out here and took over after ParaMIKE left I believe, I forget why. Or 'Nut could have been 1st Mod.
I'll get ahold of 'Nut and ask him if he'd come back and check this Thead.
>>> ALL THIS INFO is Subject to Change. It's been quite awhile ago <<<
Dan
We were members at Gunspot where SmithNut was very active but I'm not sure who was the mod there...Para was the 1st Mod here, IMMICorrect.
SmithNut started helping out here and took over after ParaMIKE left I believe, I forget why. Or 'Nut could have been 1st Mod.
I'll get ahold of 'Nut and ask him if he'd come back and check this Thead.
>>> ALL THIS INFO is Subject to Change. It's been quite awhile ago <<<
Dan
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I thought I'd UP this for the weekend
for those old guys like me who only wake up from their naps on Saturday to hit the gunshops.
for those old guys like me who only wake up from their naps on Saturday to hit the gunshops.
Sebago Son
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Victor Louis is back after a long hiatus. Maybe he could fill us in on more detail. Can't remember my exact incept date, but I think it was the summer of 2001.
geoff40
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I'd make a request if I may, that Smithnut be told/asked that many of us miss his participation here, that it would be a really great thing to see him check back in from time to time.
I think I started observing the forum in 2002. Lurking to me means lots of observation, and I didn't start lurking until 2004ish I would guess. In 2000 I had barely found my way on to the internet at all. Back in the days of dial-up, 56k modems.
I think I started observing the forum in 2002. Lurking to me means lots of observation, and I didn't start lurking until 2004ish I would guess. In 2000 I had barely found my way on to the internet at all. Back in the days of dial-up, 56k modems.
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Victor will know. I emailed people who have Rob's
email but they have not replied.
email but they have not replied.
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Forum History - what I remember
Hello all,
I appreciate Dan reaching out and the nice comments from all...
I'll try to reconstruct, from the best of my memory, some of the early forum history, others will need to apply better timelines or names as my memory is a bit fuzzy and I purged several years of hotmail messages a couple years ago and have lost some detail.
Many of us posted on Shooters and then GunSpot (hope I got that right, it might have been GunSpot then Shooters). When this forum opened, the GunSpot level of posting went down for sure. I was not one of the very early posters here (measured in days), didn't know about it until someone sent me an email asking "is there a reason you are not posting on the new S&W site?", of which I replied - "What S&W site?. Once I got the link, I was over here getting used to the new format and new friends. I do recall that my original member number was two digits, thought I was #62, but that is fuzzy now and long-gone due to various circumstances.
The forum was originally started by an individual or individuals near the end of the dot.com rage, they opened six or eight online forums individually dedicated to several manufactureres - S&W, Colt, Ruger, Sig, Taurus, and others.... can't remember all as I was only interested in the S&W forum. At the inception, the Administrator here was a nice young man from the south (I think he was from Georgia, but for the life of me I cannot remember his name or screen name now). For anyone who remembers, he was actively seeking a career in law enforcement and I believe he eventually became a Sheriff somewhere in the South. He had, from my recollection, another mod who went by the name of "Mercator". Again, this is sketchy in my memory. A few months into our time here he (the nice young man from GA) asked if I'd be interested in being a Moderator, who could miss out on that kind of fun??
From my recollection, the forum ran great for most of a year, but I don't believe the "return" was what the original owners had envisioned, so they decided to sell it, and some of the other forums they started, on eBay. At that time Parabellum and his partner (can't recall his name) bought the S&W, Ruger and Sig forums and started running them.
I recall, again subject to clarification, that when Para bought the place, we had him (Para), Mercator, Fud, myself and possible Victor/Louis as mods, but I could be wrong and VL cound have come on later. Fud later left and is now active on FFF.
Over time Mercator drifted away, and we later added Osprey to the Mod/Admin team, which stayed pretty much that way for most of the 2001-2008 timeframe. I've had the privelege to meet VL and Osprey over the years, while on business travel and really enjoyed the experience, both gentlemen for sure.
I will add that the early years were pretty slow relative to todays volume. In 2000, when this place started, we were almost immediately hampered by the fall-out/negative reaction to the S&W "Agreement" that Ed Shultz signed with HUD. Lots of interesting dialog around that, and very slow growth in membership for some time. That lasted about 2-3 years then things started growing faster. We have had some very good folks here, many S&W enthusiasts like myself, lots of real dedicated high end collectors and other general fans, shooters, hunters and followers. I believe this place has helped grow the knowledge and interest in the S&W world, as well as swell the ranks of the Collectors Associations dedicated to S&W Collecting.
When Lee took over the place (seems like a long time ago now), he set about making it what it is today, through lots of dedicated time, attention to detail, posting rules and setting "boundaries", many of which do get followed today. Along the way he's added new mods and admins, who I must say have kept the tone and "feel" in keeping with much of what we had going from the early years until he took over.
My wife and I had the pleasure of actually meeting with Lee a few months ago in Boise, ID, and really enjoyed the day and a half we spent - talking guns, forum stats, and life in general. I know the past couple years have been taxing on Lee, the pace, the challenges, the constant attention and finally - the cost - of running this place. He's weathered this better that I could, that's for sure, but I know also that he probably would have done it even if he'd known - going in - what it was going to be like.
It's been fun and I've met (virtual and face to face) some very good folks here. It's been a great, fun and rewarding place to hang out. Unfortunately time, interests, family and work can detract from the fun and we all drift in and out of the fray, but that's life.
Hope this information is helpful in the understanding of the early years of the S&W Forum.
For those that have direct knowledge (names, timelines, etc.), please add to the information to help reconstruct the early days.
Cheers
Hello all,
I appreciate Dan reaching out and the nice comments from all...
I'll try to reconstruct, from the best of my memory, some of the early forum history, others will need to apply better timelines or names as my memory is a bit fuzzy and I purged several years of hotmail messages a couple years ago and have lost some detail.
Many of us posted on Shooters and then GunSpot (hope I got that right, it might have been GunSpot then Shooters). When this forum opened, the GunSpot level of posting went down for sure. I was not one of the very early posters here (measured in days), didn't know about it until someone sent me an email asking "is there a reason you are not posting on the new S&W site?", of which I replied - "What S&W site?. Once I got the link, I was over here getting used to the new format and new friends. I do recall that my original member number was two digits, thought I was #62, but that is fuzzy now and long-gone due to various circumstances.
The forum was originally started by an individual or individuals near the end of the dot.com rage, they opened six or eight online forums individually dedicated to several manufactureres - S&W, Colt, Ruger, Sig, Taurus, and others.... can't remember all as I was only interested in the S&W forum. At the inception, the Administrator here was a nice young man from the south (I think he was from Georgia, but for the life of me I cannot remember his name or screen name now). For anyone who remembers, he was actively seeking a career in law enforcement and I believe he eventually became a Sheriff somewhere in the South. He had, from my recollection, another mod who went by the name of "Mercator". Again, this is sketchy in my memory. A few months into our time here he (the nice young man from GA) asked if I'd be interested in being a Moderator, who could miss out on that kind of fun??
From my recollection, the forum ran great for most of a year, but I don't believe the "return" was what the original owners had envisioned, so they decided to sell it, and some of the other forums they started, on eBay. At that time Parabellum and his partner (can't recall his name) bought the S&W, Ruger and Sig forums and started running them.
I recall, again subject to clarification, that when Para bought the place, we had him (Para), Mercator, Fud, myself and possible Victor/Louis as mods, but I could be wrong and VL cound have come on later. Fud later left and is now active on FFF.
Over time Mercator drifted away, and we later added Osprey to the Mod/Admin team, which stayed pretty much that way for most of the 2001-2008 timeframe. I've had the privelege to meet VL and Osprey over the years, while on business travel and really enjoyed the experience, both gentlemen for sure.
I will add that the early years were pretty slow relative to todays volume. In 2000, when this place started, we were almost immediately hampered by the fall-out/negative reaction to the S&W "Agreement" that Ed Shultz signed with HUD. Lots of interesting dialog around that, and very slow growth in membership for some time. That lasted about 2-3 years then things started growing faster. We have had some very good folks here, many S&W enthusiasts like myself, lots of real dedicated high end collectors and other general fans, shooters, hunters and followers. I believe this place has helped grow the knowledge and interest in the S&W world, as well as swell the ranks of the Collectors Associations dedicated to S&W Collecting.
When Lee took over the place (seems like a long time ago now), he set about making it what it is today, through lots of dedicated time, attention to detail, posting rules and setting "boundaries", many of which do get followed today. Along the way he's added new mods and admins, who I must say have kept the tone and "feel" in keeping with much of what we had going from the early years until he took over.
My wife and I had the pleasure of actually meeting with Lee a few months ago in Boise, ID, and really enjoyed the day and a half we spent - talking guns, forum stats, and life in general. I know the past couple years have been taxing on Lee, the pace, the challenges, the constant attention and finally - the cost - of running this place. He's weathered this better that I could, that's for sure, but I know also that he probably would have done it even if he'd known - going in - what it was going to be like.
It's been fun and I've met (virtual and face to face) some very good folks here. It's been a great, fun and rewarding place to hang out. Unfortunately time, interests, family and work can detract from the fun and we all drift in and out of the fray, but that's life.
Hope this information is helpful in the understanding of the early years of the S&W Forum.
For those that have direct knowledge (names, timelines, etc.), please add to the information to help reconstruct the early days.
Cheers
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Thanks for stopping by Rob. And thanks to Dan for contacting you. Just one question. Did Osprey ever get a car that runs? 
f.t.
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Yes,Tom
He sold the wheels and batteries bought some feed and a mule. Starts every time. dan
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Rob just rattled all that off, pretty amazing and accurate !
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He sold the wheels and batteries bought some feed and a mule. Starts every time. dan
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Rob just rattled all that off, pretty amazing and accurate !
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Thanks for stopping by Rob. And thanks to Dan for contacting you. Just one question. Did Osprey ever get a car that runs?
f.t.
I'm not sure he ever did.... I heard a rumor that he spent all his $$ trying to break an old ratty pencil barrel Mod 12 by shooting a lifetime supply of hellishly powerful Plus-P-Plus ammo through it.
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Rob,
THANKS for that history, and thank you also for the kind words.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I will state before the world that this board would probably not still be here without the guidance, encouragement, and friendship Rob provided me in some very taxing days. I'm in your debt.
It is also a fact that his moderation and the knowledge he contributed over the years helped build this board into what it is today.
I'm sorry we sound like fanboys praising each other in public, but I simply won't let my appreciation for all he did go unspoken. Many new people here don't know what a vast contribution he made in time and effort.
THANKS for that history, and thank you also for the kind words.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I will state before the world that this board would probably not still be here without the guidance, encouragement, and friendship Rob provided me in some very taxing days. I'm in your debt.
It is also a fact that his moderation and the knowledge he contributed over the years helped build this board into what it is today.
I'm sorry we sound like fanboys praising each other in public, but I simply won't let my appreciation for all he did go unspoken. Many new people here don't know what a vast contribution he made in time and effort.
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