I am not trying to be a jerk...

[w0ady]

i think we can all agree that we're bothered by people who dont do enough research about a subject like .22lr feeding issues and then jump to conclusions. of course ive grown up on the computer and have about 10 years of pretty heavy forum experience from games to cars and now guns. i know that im in the minority when it comes to someone who would rather search on my own before posting up to ask a question. so when i see "newbies" posting, i pause and remember that i was in the same place once.

 

[Kuhndog86]

I searched the web myself, I know im not the only person having this problem. I came here to see if anyone could offer advice on how to solve my problem or maybe a suggestion about which ammo to try.....

And I think I have found the right ammo, Federal Bulk 550 is the best so far. The first mag I tried jammed 4 rounds in.....but since then I have ran 250 rounds through with no problem. My15-22 really didnt like the more expensive CCI Mini Mag or the Winchester Super Speed. That makes me super happy.

Thanks for the help guys....enjoy your 15-22's.

 

[crazykg85]

I have had really good performance from Centurion, I think maybe they are 38 or 40 grain. The only problem is finding them.

 

[tlm3210]

Then there are guys like me with a ****load of bulk ammo lying around from over the years and want to shoot it up with the 15-22.

 

[Majorlk]

Then there are guys like me with a ****load of bulk ammo lying around from over the years and want to shoot it up with the 15-22.

Go For It!!!!!

 

[tlm3210]

Oops, wrong quote. Sorry.

 

[RonJon]

So - You want to shoot cheap?

...then THIS is the ticket for you:

RonJon

 

[Majorlk]

...then THIS is the ticket for you:

RonJon

Does someone make a scope base or RDS mount for it? How about a Picatinny rail? I see a new market!

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

Does someone make a scope base or RDS mount for it? How about a Picatinny rail? I see a new market!

There's always this one.

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mossberg_464_SPX_01.jpg

 

[The Tourist]

But, I am getting annoyed with people commenting on ammo selection with the MP15-22 and the MP22 pistol.

If you're a jerk, than I'm a bigger one.

When you buy any tool, from a jackhammer to a doorstop, you should be held accountable for the proper use of said item.

If you are discharging a firearm, and inappropriate or non-functioning ammunition is deliberately used, you'll get no sympathy from me. The first shakedown of any new or newly repaired firearm should consider functioning of magazines, various styles/weights of bullets and loads, re-adjustment of sights, function of the safety, etc.

If your firearm, even a 22LR, is not working correctly, FIND OUT WHY. I also dislike people who sound off in forums and trash a manufacturer when the reason for the error is solely their own.

 

[TacoDaTugBoat]

So I have seen several posts about how CCI AR Tactical rounds work good but are twice as much as other bulk ammo. I somewhat agree. My LGS sells the 375 box for $27. However, twice lately Palmetto State Armory (PSA) has run sales on AR Tactical for $15 a box of 375. The last ad I saw even said free shipping! That makes it comparably priced in my book.

So far my rifle has had no issues with any of the CCI's that I have run so far. I have not gotten my hands on Blazers yet. The Walmart Federal Bulk 525 ran poorly and I sold the remaining 900 rounds to a coworker. I'm probably just over 1,000 rounds since I got it on the 2nd of this month. Doing all my shooting using iron at 50 yards. Hard for me to see past that without glass.

 

[Majorlk]

CCI Tactical is not "twice as much" as other ammo, as you have found out. For the most part it's a penny to a penny and a half more per round.

You experience with Federals is simply another proof that each rifle is a law unto itself as to what works best in it. I'm fortunate that mine will eat everything I have shot in it with no particular problems, even some old Remington Thunderbolts. Since I haven't seen any particular performance or accuracy increase with CCI Tactical over the Federal Champion I don't spend the extra.

 

[TacoDaTugBoat]

Yeah, and the only problem I had with the Federal Bulk was that the extractor was having difficulty retaining the shell long enough for the ejector to eject it. I saw a part number and $5 price tag for the extractor on the parts list thread and am considering call S&W and ordering another to see if it would help the federals.

 

[Prof_Fate]

I would not call the 15-22 a race car , more like a Camry . I bought the Performance Center , it is loads of fun and cheap to shoot but not accurate , which is supposed to be the selling point of the PC . I have shot bulk ammo and multiple high quality ammos . But I do feel I broke even with the 2 stage trigger and better stock . If you want accuracy , no failures and quality buy a high quality ar 15 ; shot less if your worried about ammo price and be happier with your rifle .

The accuracy issue I have is because the gun is all plastic. I can move the POI 3" depending on how I hold the gun. I may still get 1.5" groups, they just move.
With a sling the move left/lower left 3". On the bench the move up 3" compared to sitting with no sling.
I've also had different ammo move 3" - my marlin likes one ammo and the MP15-22 another - get it wrong and the POI moves for either rifle.

Talk to a lapua rep about the differences in ammo and you'll learn a lot. You can make 'match' ammo yourself - well you essentially measure and sort your ammo so that it 'matches' - you get much more consistency this way.

Sure, good 22 ammo is 8c a round and great stuff can be three times that. What you choose depends on what you expect or need the gun/ammo to do. Shooting in competition at 50 or 100 yards the better ammo is worth every penny or dollar as the case may be. To kill pumpkins or cans at 20 or 30 yards the cheap stuff is just fine.

 

[OldEagleEars]

This thread sure mushroomed, didn't it? For my two-cents, I've run CCI Mini-mag and Federal bulk in my 15-22 with few problems and those from some really old CCI's I had in the bottom of the closet (waste not - want not syndrom) and Remingtons went into my .22 revolvers and now into my Henry lever gun. I have posted in the past about my practice of loading my 15-22 mags with 4/1 ball/tracer and the fun it was to shoot. Yesterday my grandson took my 15-22 to the range and had trouble with FTE's and the resulting stoppages. It seemed to be the fault of the tracers I had laced the loadings with. Surprised, I took the time to check the box of tracer ammo I was now using and found that it was "standard velocity" rather than "high velocity" rated by the manufacturer. I now believe that the standard rounds have too little power to successfully operate a blow-back system like the 15-22 hence causing the failure to extract interruption of the firing system. I will be more careful in checking what I am feeding my S&W from now on. To any who might have been influenced by my posts, I apologize.

 

[Kayback]

I was now using and found that it was "standard velocity" rather than "high velocity" rated by the manufacturer..

The 15-22 is meant to run on standard velocity rounds isn't it?

Accuracy suffers in most cases when you shoot HV .22 rounds.

KBK

 

[gdauth]

I think that it is not only a case of finding the right ammo for your .22, but braking it in. Several months ago I bought a new Model 41. I initially tried CCI 22 LR SV and she choked on it. At least 10% stovepipes, FTFs and jams. I tried various types of Eley ammo and things improved, but they were not perfect. Based on info that I got on this and other sites, I started running her wet. Bingo! I am now back to the CCI SV ammo and the gun is performing flawlessly, it is certainly shooting better than I can. I am using less oil and on the last trip to the range it ran through 200 rounds without a hiccup. Moral of this story was be patient, try different ammo and conditions and allow the gun time to break in.

 

[bigshep85]

IMHO

I buy a gun to shoot ammo, I have a s&w m&p 40 that will shoot any ammo I put in the magazine, I have a s&w 640 that will do the same, Shotguns likewise, and I have a AR 15 that will, like the before mentioned guns, shoot ANYTHING I feed it. I have had guns in the past (note the use of the word "past") that would not shoot certain kinds of ammo, guess what.....I SOLD THEM.
When I go to the store I buy ammo to hunt with or to shoot at targets with and I usually buy ammo that is on sale or whatever is the cheapest unless I am using it for a certain purpose (self defense, different animal hunting, etc). I don't want to have to walk into Walmart or wherever ready to have myself a "range day" and say to myself "Well they don't have brand Joe Blow awesome copper lined, steel cased jacketed hollow point #9. Since that's the only round my gun shoots I guess I have wasted a day since they don't have the ONLY brand of ammo my gun will shoot and I can't go to the range"
A reliable gun shoots any ammo IMHO.

Maybe I am over thinking it but the way I view my gun purchasing and collecting is like this, If I were to ever be in a situation where I run out of ammo for whatever reason, I should be able to pick up ANY spare ammo laying around, of the same caliber as the gun I am carrying, and load it into my magazine and use it effectively. If I cannot rely on my gun to do this then I have no need for it.......but that is my opinion.

 

[Maddmax]

I think part of the problem is how the weapons are being broken in. How many times you heard. "Took it outa the box,grabbed some ammo and played "Master Blaster" at the range and had a blast". They paid no attention to the manual,cleaning,...anything. "Barrel so hot I needed a glove to hold it...." NOT a good break-in and then wonder about problems. Complain to the LGS and web about how bad...whatever is. The gun is polymer (PLASTIC) and needs a reasonably "easy" break-in period. If it takes a good glove to hold onto the barrel or too hot to hold onto the front rail/hand guard with a bare hand..what's that heat doing to the polymer parts the barrel and BG are in contact with inside ??? Warping,melting ? It NEEDS an easier break-in period. Shoot a little,cool down. Shoot more cool more,repete. It needs to be "tempered" (for lack of a better word) so everything seats slow and easy. Broken in properly,I think the 15-22 would give a good/better run for the money on the range.

 

[Maddmax]

OBTW, i've got a 34 year old mini 14 that is a tack driver in the 42-55 grain area, 60 and up and it throws rounds out like they are shaped like triangles.

I'm shooting a Mini 181 series about that same age. 52-53 grain BTHP's shoot the best outa mine. 55 FMJBT's also do very good. Using 4895 powder. It'll punch the same hole all day.