NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control: AP

[KJM]

My guess is the reply from NYS would be to send you some brochures from Texas and Florida. They will probably give you the names for some good moving companies in your area.

Id like to see Remington announce this afternoon that they will be shutting down and moving out of state by the end of the year. Same for Kimber, LRB and the rest.

Why would they do THAT?
If they had done it BEFORE this, as Colt did in CT with the micro stamping law a couple years ago, maybe the law would not have passed. My guess is they all said nothing. You have Remington/Marlin/Bushmaster, Kimber, and Rohrbaugh firearms that I can think of. You have RSR Group and across the street AMCHAR.... two LARGE distributors across the street from one another in Rochester.

Everyones answer is to "move".... until there is nowhere left to move TOO.

Running away from this problem is not going to solve it. I don't know what will, but it aint runnin.

I'm next door to NY..... so I can only imagine what goes down here also.

The mag limit bill that CT tried to get through last year did not make it, and if I understand it right, it was because they, like NY, wanted to have all mags over ten turned in or sold out of state and that violates something. Someone clue me in that knows more.
So CT stayed at the normal capacity 30 round mags. For now. After this shooting we will see what happens.

This State also blows. I would gt out of here myself strictly on the property tax issue. 7500 for my regular sized house, and if you own a new truck worth 50k, you will pay 1500 more per year on that..... yeah.... and add the New Harley..... another 700 per year.

Guys, this whole thing sucks, but they need to see NUMBERS..... BIG numbers...... If that did not help NY , it may help to wake up some of the politicians? I don't know anymore. We are not organized in huge numbers in each State, and that is too bad.

I heard guys say they can't go to the Capital Saturday cause they were going shooting or something else.

Think that is part of the problem.

Not not to hijack here, which I did pretty well I guess, but it will also look REAL bad if only like 25 people showed up. There maybe should be a plan to walk away if less than BIG numbers. Does anyone have any other thoughts?

And what about the paperwork this will all create. They won't ever be able to handle it I would think.

 

[Honey Badger]

Do they really think that criminals will abide by these laws?

Absolutely, all the criminals in NY will check before they go out to commit a crime to make sure they haven't exceeded seven cartridges in their magazines.

 

[Joewisc]

If I still lived in NY, I guess I'd be a felon because I own a 10-shot Smith & Wesson .22 revolver. Glad to see I moved away from there 35 years ago and never looked back. Although I now live in a blue state, we have a conservative governor and a strong tradition of sportsmen and hunting rights.

 

[ladder13]

Running away from this problem is not going ot solve it. I don't know what will, but it aint runnin.

I'm next door to NY..... so I can only imagine what goes down here also.

+1
people think they're safe because they don't live in ny, yep keep thinking that, just like they want you to.

 

[squidsix]

Here's a basic reality for you:
NYS contains about eight percent of the people in THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
Combine with California and Illinois, you have a HUGE percentage of this ENTIRE COUNTRY that is "accepting" these rules as their law.
We, as in "we folks who love our freedom" are a HUGE minority. Running from NY, or CA, or IL will absolutely NOT solve this problem.
I can't say it on the internet, but when they come for your guns, you KNOW what to do. You all know, perfectly well.

 

[Rule3]

How can "they mandate" that owners of magazines have a time period to sell them out of State?? Is this like the floating barge of garbage they had with no place to dump it??

I was born and lived in NY, thank God we moved out a long time ago, As much as I like Upstate the rest of it, well you know!

 

[Aerosfire]

Would this ban all semi-automatic pistols in New York? It seems that they would fall under this because they are a semi-automatic pistol and have 1 military characteristic (pistol grip).

Is that correct?


Edit: I misunderstood. A/W is Semi Auto (Rifle or Shotgun) - not pistol. My mistake.

 

[squidsix]

The terrible misnomer called "assault weapon". Simply incorrect, yet for some reason accepted by just about everyone. Even people on the right side of this issue get this one wrong.
For all of you fellow wheelgunners and S&W forum members I will tell you this:
YOUR GUNS ARE NEXT. Don't think for a second that "well, I guess my pappy's levergun is good, so I can relax" will fly this time. You WILL face confiscation if you do nothing. You WILL have people coming for your single shot eventually if you don't stop this now. Now. Not some distant time in the future.

 

[ladder13]

Would this ban all semi-automatic pistols in New York? It seems that they would fall under this because they are a semi-automatic pistol and have 1 military characteristic (pistol grip).

Is that correct?


Edit: I misunderstood. A/W is Semi Auto (Rifle or Shotgun) - not pistol. My mistake.

your pistols are safe, your mags not

 

[Fishslayer]

Did i read correctly? Background checks for ammo? ***!

"If you have nothing to hide..."

 

[ladder13]

The terrible misnomer called "assault weapon". Simply incorrect, yet for some reason accepted by just about everyone. Even people on the right side of this issue get this one wrong.
For all of you fellow wheelgunners and S&W forum members I will tell you this:
YOUR GUNS ARE NEXT. Don't think for a second that "well, I guess my pappy's levergun is good, so I can relax" will fly this time. You WILL face confiscation if you do nothing. You WILL have people coming for your single shot eventually if you don't stop this now. Now. Not some distant time in the future.

but ...but...my legislators are on my side! yeah, until the feds cut off the $ gravy train, then see what they'll do.

 

[rgkitchen]

I propose a new law that all televisions in New York get a maximum of seven channels, and none are to be news. All televisions must be fitted with a monitoring device so that it can instantly be determined that you have the requisite number of channels and that none are news. Anyone caught with a television capable of receiving more than seven channels or viewing network news will have to pay of fine of $1,000 and have all of their televisions disabled for a period of one year.

 

[jaykellogg]

If your AR's do not have flash hiders or bayonet lugs, you need a new stock like a thumbhole stock to eliminate the pistol grip and then it does not qualify as a "military style" rifle (as I read the post). Still if you have antique WWI or WWII rifles with bayonet lugs these will need to be registered.

There are already a lot of AK-47s without the "military style" parts that qualify.

 

[TexasRider]

Here's a basic reality for you:
NYS contains about eight percent of the people in THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
Combine with California and Illinois, you have a HUGE percentage of this ENTIRE COUNTRY that is "accepting" these rules as their law.
We, as in "we folks who love our freedom" are a HUGE minority. Running from NY, or CA, or IL will absolutely NOT solve this problem.
I can't say it on the internet, but when they come for your guns, you KNOW what to do. You all know, perfectly well.

The first thing is is to note that NOT EVERYBODY in NY, or in Illinois, or in California, is "accepting " these rules as their law.

Those rules are being forced on to those citizens as a consequence of bad politics and bad government. I would guess the numbers are about like everything else in this country and is in the 50% range.

But on this issue there is more than a few joining that "other 53% ".

I truly am angry for these guys. I know they love their state and cherish their rights and freedoms.

But if you truly cant change these laws that attempt to criminalize the free and law abiding men and women who are the back, legs and muscle of any state, then the next best option is to join like minded and freedom loving people like you wherever they might be.

Then be prepared to fight and then go back later and help regain and rebuild it all for you and for your children when it falls apart.

I have done what I can to help those in Cal and in NY and those states, but there is a limit to what I can do. I can give money, I can write letters, but I cant VOTE there and that is the only thing that works, but it isnt working. Short of ....... well you know.

 

[riverrat38]

Well, you can carry 2 guns, for a total of 14 rounds.
This brings new meaning to the concept of a "New York Reload"!
Might as well be .45 or .50 Cal. Not much point in 9mm anymore!
I wonder if the ban includes high cap ammo "belts"? As in belt feed.

Best,
Rick

 

[Lenny_D]

The new law allows you to keep 10 rd. mags made between 94 and now but you can only load 7. Any new mags after this law passes (it still has to pass in the Assembly which I'm told is a pretty sure thing) sold in NY would not be allowed to hold more than 7 rounds. There is no provision for 22 lr caliber which means the 10 shot rotary mags for the 10-22 and 77-22 will only be able to be loaded to 7 capacity. Now will gunmakers go through the hoops to manufacture 7 rd mags for new guns?

Len

 

[DWalt]

I am not keen on inviting any more migration to Texas, but New York gun owners are welcome. And lots and lots of jobs here and no state income tax. Maybe Texas can hold out a while longer, but there is no shortage of idiots and traitors in the legislature here either, even though they are not (yet) in the majority. Then there's always Texas secession.

 

[dchapma1]

NY trashed the 2ndamendment!

Well I am preparing to get rid of all my guns as NY Just passed sweeping legislation last night under the cover of dark, and the Assembly just passed it today, effective immediately!

You can't evenbuy ammo in NY withough a background check, no magazines over 7 rounds, no Pistol Grips on any longgun - all banned! Get caught? Felony!!!!!

1 Year to register your gun so you can keep it,, although we all know that registration will lead to confiscation.

A very sad day in US history. I will now start my mission to move out of New York, I have had enough of this backward state.

Morons!

 

[Moonman]

You could MOVE or try to be involved in a RECALL ELECTION.

 

[Dezfan]

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The normal capacity 25 round magizines have already been limited to 10 rounds in several states. Now "they" want to limit it to seven.

One entire round more than a the first true 6 shot revolver built nearly 200 years ago in 1814!

So what happenes the next time there is a shooting that "they" can use in their continued assault on our rights?

Will they "allow" us 5 rounds, then 3 rounds, etc...

This is ridiculous and I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but instead of people being on here asking how they can comply with this newest blatant assault on our rights, we should be fighting mad and doing everything in your power to stop this insanity!

We consent to be governed, not ruled!