Suprise in S&W Box

[Scopes]

Well, our president talked me into getting a second 15/22... So I've been looking around and all that is left around here are over priced non-threaded barrels. So I had been following GunBroker for the last couple weeks looking for a reasonable priced standard, threaded barrel model. I finally was able to snag one just a couple dollars more than I paid back in November for the first one at Cabelas. Score!

But when I opened the box I discovered that it was not the model that was shown in the description on GunBroker... It has all this Magpul ****,,, Magpul sights, Magpul Stock and Grip. Bummer...

I would have contacted them, but that's just me. Hope the worker didn't get in trouble for the mistake.

 

[Buckskinner]

I would have contacted them, but that's just me. Hope the worker didn't get in trouble for the mistake.

Judge as you wish...

 

[Scopes]

Judge as you wish...

I've been a small business owner, so I guess I have a different perspective.

There was a post recently where a member got two magazines instead of one by mistake. He contacted the seller and was told to just keep it. He did the honest thing. There's no "surprise" here. Someone made a mistake and will likely have to pay for it.

 

[Shooterjgs]

Boy I'll bet your one of those guys that always wins on scratchoffs and raffels... good for you...

 

[bandit67]

I've been a small business owner, so I guess I have a different perspective.

Sad you don't "get it". There was a post recently where a member got two magazines instead of one by mistake. He contacted the seller and was told to just keep it. He did the honest thing. You could learn something from that. There's no "surprise" here. Someone made a mistake and will likely have to pay for it.

I'm sure the vendor will pay for it out of the massive GB auction profits they're currently making. Every vendor I've seen on GB sells a lot of stuff. I'm sure these screw-ups happen from time to time.

Vendors sell on GB because they can justify making a killing on their stuff through the auctions. Many of the vendors on there lately are essentially ripping people off and not feeling at all bad about it as they're raking in huge profits. Laws of supply & demand.

You don't feel bad for the folks getting ripped off by the vendors when the auctions go crazy, but we're supposed to feel sorry for a vendor when they occasionally screw up and give something back to the public? That's just the way the system works. No one's being dishonest here.

I too am a small business owner, and don't take advantage of customers. If I did and screwed up, then that's the cost of doing business. I might hope a customer would help me out, but in a case like that, I wouldn't be able to expect them to help me out. Because I don't try to screw over my customers, I think most of them would let me know if I screwed up in their favor.

 

[Scopes]

I'm sure the vendor will pay for it out of the massive GB auction profits they're currently making. Every vendor I've seen on GB sells a lot of stuff. I'm sure these screw-ups happen from time to time.

Vendors sell on GB because they can justify making a killing on their stuff through the auctions. Many of the vendors on there lately are essentially ripping people off and not feeling at all bad about it as they're raking in huge profits. Laws of supply & demand.

You don't feel bad for the folks getting ripped off by the vendors when the auctions go crazy, but we're supposed to feel sorry for a vendor when they occasionally screw up and give something back to the public? That's just the way the system works. No one's being dishonest here.

I too am a small business owner, and don't take advantage of customers. If I did and screwed up, then that's the cost of doing business. I might hope a customer would help me out, but in a case like that, I wouldn't be able to expect them to help me out. Because I don't try to screw over my customers, I think most of them would let me know if I screwed up in their favor.

It's not the boss who sucks it up, it's the $10/hour worker. That's what my boss did when I messed up years ago. You're not dealing with billion dollar corporations here. Regardless, bragging about it is in poor taste.

 

[telero]

What did the auction actually say in the description and list as a part number? I thought the op mentioned that it might have shown a stock picture, but maybe the description was actually correct (or the part number was for the moe). if the listing seller described it correctly but used the wrong picture, people may have overlooked it on gunbroker if they were browsing by picture and it might have gone for less than it would have otherwise. Could have been the seller's mistake.

 

[Scopes]

What did the auction actually say in the description and list as a part number? I thought the op mentioned that it might have shown a stock picture, but maybe the description was actually correct (or the part number was for the moe). if the listing seller described it correctly but used the wrong picture, people may have overlooked it on gunbroker if they were browsing by picture and it might have gone for less than it would have otherwise. Could have been the seller's mistake.

Sure, I would agree in that instance.

 

[bandit67]

It's not the boss who sucks it up, it's the $10/hour worker. That's what my boss did when I messed up years ago. You're not dealing with billion dollar corporations here.

In a small company, with things as crazy as they are, and all the money they're making, I can't believe that they'd nail the barely-over-minimum-wage employee. But the owners could be that bad, I guess.

I still think they are laughing all the way to the bank, and chock one loss up to "you win some, you lose some".

I have seen a lot of auctions on GB stating that the some of the pictures can be representations of similar products, and not photos of the actual item up for sale.

 

[telero]

Which is why I'm curious what the original actually said...a link to the listing or copy/paste of the description from the op would be interesting.

 

[Buckskinner]

The discription was for a nib black threaded barrel 15-22, which is what I got... It's not like they sent me a M&P 15 .223.

Let's see. Drive 30 mins to FFL, pay FFL fee, ship back MOE, they ship new gun, drive back to FFL pick up new gun, pay FFL fee. Hmmm, I hardly see the logic here.

By the way, if any of you guys are looking for .223 this vendor has 1000 rounds of 223 for just under $1000...

 

[amazingflapjack]

What goes, comes...

 

[les strat]

I would have contacted them, but that's just me. Hope the worker didn't get in trouble for the mistake.

IDK. The owner or worker had to fill out lots of paperwork on this rifle. I know you can't return a gun for any other reasons in most instances as it cannot be sold as new and for liability purposes. It would end up being more hassle than it's worth for both parties. FFL shipping fees, ATF paperwork.

Maybe fess up to the store for your own conscience, but I'd bet a nickle the whole hassle won't be worth it for the seller.

 

[les strat]

The discription was for a nib black threaded barrel 15-22, which is what I got... It's not like they sent me a M&P 15 .223.


By the way, if any of you guys are looking for .223 this vendor has 1000 rounds of 223 for just under $1000...

Boy I am glad I stocked up last summer.... for 1/3 of that price!

 

[HotRoderX]

I would have contacted them, but that's just me. Hope the worker didn't get in trouble for the mistake.

Once the firearm is transferred to the new buyer there not much that can be done correct? There was a thread a while back where the guy was told the gun was A but was in fact sold B. The gun shops answer was all sales are final pretty much.

I dont see how this is much different sure the shop screwed up but this time it was in the customers favor.

 

[Scopes]

Maybe fess up to the store for your own conscience, but I'd bet a nickle the whole hassle won't be worth it for the seller.

Yes. That's all I'm saying. And I also doubt it would be worth their hassle. As long as the worker doesn't have to pay for it.

Sorry for my preaching fellas. I've just been on the other end of it.

 

[Maddmax]

I've been a small business owner, so I guess I have a different perspective.

Sad you don't "get it". There was a post recently where a member got two magazines instead of one by mistake. He contacted the seller and was told to just keep it. He did the honest thing. There's no "surprise" here. Someone made a mistake and will likely have to pay for it.

I doubt if some one will have to pay for it. Much less even know about it. They take the item,pack,label and ship it.

I've had the opposite problem with (some,not all) small and even large dealers. Trying to get things right. I've had to take a loss more than once from dealers. Most small dealers will make it right. Some large dealers it's been TS and that was the end of it.

 

[Maddmax]

I'm sure the vendor will pay for it out of the massive GB auction profits they're currently making. Every vendor I've seen on GB sells a lot of stuff. I'm sure these screw-ups happen from time to time.

Vendors sell on GB because they can justify making a killing on their stuff through the auctions. Many of the vendors on there lately are essentially ripping people off and not feeling at all bad about it as they're raking in huge profits. Laws of supply & demand.

You don't feel bad for the folks getting ripped off by the vendors when the auctions go crazy, but we're supposed to feel sorry for a vendor when they occasionally screw up and give something back to the public? That's just the way the system works. No one's being dishonest here.

I too am a small business owner, and don't take advantage of customers. If I did and screwed up, then that's the cost of doing business. I might hope a customer would help me out, but in a case like that, I wouldn't be able to expect them to help me out. Because I don't try to screw over my customers, I think most of them would let me know if I screwed up in their favor.

BINGO! You sir are the reason I stick with the "Mom&Pop" and smaller LGS's. "You/Your" Type LGS are normally more than willing to make things right if there is a problem. That's why I (and some others) would be more than willing to sight an error in our favor and make it right with the owner (like this mentioned weapon). Most times the owner will just say no problem,we'll get even another time. Those are also the owners that will give you a better deal on other things too. I much prefer doing business with a local (LGS) over a huge chain store that could care less about a problem. Those chainstore employees work 9-5,draw a check on Friday and could care less about most customers.

The guy got a great deal. So Be It.

 

[Maddmax]

The discription was for a nib black threaded barrel 15-22, which is what I got... It's not like they sent me a M&P 15 .223.

Let's see. Drive 30 mins to FFL, pay FFL fee, ship back MOE, they ship new gun, drive back to FFL pick up new gun, pay FFL fee. Hmmm, I hardly see the logic here.

I agree. It'd be more trouble "fixing" the problem than it would be worth. Congrats on a great deal.

 

[Buckskinner]

Well my kids and I broke it in yesterday, so now it's a used gun anyway... And if Scopes is worried about the employee who shipped it, probaby only way they would know about it is if i called anyway. I'm a small business owner as well. These kind of things happen. My guess is that their cost difference between a standard model and MOE is pretty small. No way they lost any money on it at all...

These guns really impress me, for the heck of it I loaded 3 mags with a random combination of Bulk Federal, W-22, Rem Golden Bullet, and CCI. Not a hickup at all. Looks like the second one is as ammo friendly as the first one.

Right now the first one has a TRS-25. I'm looking at getting a decent scope, put it on both of them to see if one is more accurate than the other and that one will keep it, TRS for the other. My guess is there won't be much difference.