The Ammo crybabies are jumping for joy.

[Dezfan]

Hoarders have no use for the objects they store and will not let go of them if they do. They are mentally ill individuals.

"Storers" - or more correctly "Preppers", make hay while the sun shines and store that which may be needed in the future, use what they have intelligently, and replace their stock judiciously.

Preppers have the luxury of time. If Store "A" is charging too much, the Prepper is not under any pressure to buy anyway as he knows store "B" or store "C" will, sooner or later, have the desired goods at an attractive price.

"Preppers" of course, have been vilified by the liberal media and characterized as clowns, crackpots and doomsday sooth-sayers. About 1 in a million are truly worthy of Reality Show Status. The rest of us just don't like the idea of running out of T.P., fuel and ammunition.

True Preppers are nothing more than adults who learned their lesson from the Boy Scout motto: "Be prepared".

As one who was prepared for this current turn, as one who has an abundance of ammunition, I can correct anyone who wants to label me.

Or I can ignore them, shrug my shoulders, grin from ear-to-ear, and go shooting.

But it's not fair! You thought ahead, sacrificed your time, money, and energy to go out and get your ammo!

It's not fair, you have ammo to shoot!

It's not fair, you don't have to rely on the secondary market for ammo!

It's not fair, you don't have to pay exorbinate amounts of money for your 22LR!

It's not fair! It'll all your fault that there is no ammo for sale now!

It's just not fair. And I'm going to whine, complain, and make accusations until someone has to give up what they have worked for and is forced to give it to me!

Welcome to the new Liberalized Entitlement States of Omerica.

 

[ladyT]

Natchez has Remington 115 grain 9mm for $25.99 for a box of 50 and thats the sale price.

 

[smitholdtimer]

Crybabies Happy?

I'm so looking forward to understanding exactly what the original POSTER was trying to say. Someone will explain, Right?

 

[BigBill]

Before the 22lr ammo dried up I was buying up 5,000rd cases for around
$225 delivered to my door. My misses asked me why so much? She and my two sons were going for there CCW permits. I figured with the larger caliber handgun ammo being scarce they can shoot the 22's for a while.

Now I figure they can shoot my military surplus ammo in 7,62x25 in my Russian tokarev's for a while too.

I did find some affordable 22 shorts and 22 WMR ammo recently too. I figure if I see it I better grab it.

I did figure the reloading stuff would become harder to get too.

I'm in the process of designing a rotating turn table for all 8 reloading presses I want to set up. I have single ram and progressive presses to setup so they can be indexed to the press I need quickly. I purchased the extra die plates and now I need to look at the shell holders for the progressive presses. I want to preset the powder dispensers too. Having the die plate set up with the powder dispensers ready to go we can fly thru the reloading process. I already purchased 16 die plates that fit my 4 Lee Pro 1000 progressive presses and my one Lee turret press. I like having the inter change ability between the two style presses. I hate wasting time when reloading. I want to ho back shooting 3 to 4 times a week if not more.

 

[K-9]

Cheaper than PBR and Milwaukee's Best?

You forgot Red,White,and Blue-(PBR's economy-priced brew).

 

[CoMF]

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the irony of whinging about the current prices while denouncing those who rightfully pointed fingers at the ammo speculators as "crybabies"?

Cheaper than PBR and Milwaukee's Best?

You forgot Red,White,and Blue-(PBR's economy-priced brew).

...and Genny. Don't forget Genny.

 

[Gyrene6891]

Walked into the LGS yesterday picked up a 500 round brick of 22LR, purchased the ammo and another Ruger Mark III. Left the other bricks for someone else. Headed to the range this weekend, taking a couple hundred 45ACP and a couple hundred 22LR. Have not decided if I will take anything else...

 

[RUN2424]

Last night at wally world,picked up 150 rounds of Remington 9mm and 50 rounds of WWB 40 for $89. This morning got some WWB 50 round boxes of 45 for $20.47. And Win. super x 100 round boxes for $5.97. Its out there.

 

[elm_creek_smith]

I can't remember the last time I saw any .38 Special in any loading. Anywhere.

Here in Tulsa, Sports World has both defensive loads and range ammo. It ain't cheap.

I really don't consider myself a "crybaby". I have snap caps.

Dry fire with snap caps is underrated. I practice with them in speedloaders for trigger control and reloading muscle memory.

ECS

 

[e-jism]

Ammo Price Follow-up

I went by Cabela's last Friday and they had;
American Eagle 100 box of 9mm for $37.
Winchester White box 40 cal at $40 for 50 rounds.
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Stopped by WalMart last night at about 5:00 to get some bread. Went by the ammo display and they had about 12 boxes of White Box .40 JHP (50 rounds) for $20 each, half of what Cabela's was asking. Got 3 boxes. Glad I waited. BTW, they also had plenty of .357 and .223 on hand.
Sports dept employee said ammo's been coming in M/W/F, but no guarantee which caliber they would get with each delivery. Maybe things are starting to calm down after all.

 

[laskt9]

I went to Walmart yesterday as well and got my wwb 556. Used to be able to pay with two twentys and get change back for a soda. Now I have to add soda money on top of the Jacksons

 

[e-jism]

Still better than the sports stores & local gun shops.

 

[dougb1946]

If you need to make lots of loud noises, there is 12 gauge available, and in a good variety of loads. Shooting, statistically, is a luxury. Especially handguns. My handguns have sat quietly with no complaints for a few months now, and I now see ammo starting to reappear. Life went on, even with out shooting. Based on a MN murder rate of 1.4/100,000, I can expect to need my weapon for defense once every 100,000 years. I was able to buy some good imported beer and take my wife out to dinner a few times. Nobody broke into my home or assaulted me in the street. Contrary to what you read in the papers and see on TV, we are very safe in our homes and on the streets.

Last week, my local LGS had a full counter of .45, the remnants of a case of 9mm self defense loads, and I even scored three boxes of .22 (I can post photos, for those who no longer remember what .22 looks like). Ammo for the evil black rifle is appearing, and my gun range is still in business.

Prices will come down some, but there are a lot more people buying ammo, and a lot more are shooting the semiauto, with its propensity for dumping full magazines in seconds. Unless our foreign wars stop or more manufacturing capacity is built, we can expect prices to stay up for a while.

 

[operator18]

Anyone buying into this high priced folly is perpetuating the problem. Quit buying overpriced ammo and the price will go down. It's basic economics supply and demand.::

 

[blujax01]

... Based on a MN murder rate of 1.4/100,000, I can expect to need my weapon for defense once every 100,000 years. ....

You do know that this is not how statistics work, don't you?

Did you stop payments on your homeowners insurance as well? After all, the chances of fire, flood or burglary being 1:2000 or so means that you will be dead a couple of millennia before it would be required.

What about auto insurance? You won't need it until the year 2525 or there about.

Recreational shooting has indeed become a luxury for some. But please do not replace it with some misguided sense of security.

You are safe until you are not. And at that point, you will have no time to explain to the bad guy why he is several thousand years early!

 

[smokindog]

This morning while out and about, avoiding the Mrs SDog honey-do list, I frequented a coffee shop, 2 Walmart stores, a greasy spoon diner, a Cabelas, 2 more Walmart stores, and a Bass Pro. In each establishment, I found for purchase something I wanted. It went like this. Coffee black, 22LR, 40SW, sausage gravy biscuits with grits, W231, 45ACP, 9MM, large pistol primers.

That means I had 100% success in entering a retail establishment and getting something I needed. According to doctrine/theory, there is no shortage

You do know that this is not how statistics work, don't you?

Did you stop payments on your homeowners insurance as well? After all, the chances of fire, flood or burglary being 1:2000 or so means that you will be dead a couple of millennia before it would be required.

What about auto insurance? You won't need it until the year 2525 or there about.

Recreational shooting has indeed become a luxury for some. But please do not replace it with some misguided sense of security.

You are safe until you are not. And at that point, you will have no time to explain to the bad guy why he is several thousand years early!

 

[arjay]

I'm still finding bulk 22 at 5 cents a round and the better quality stuff at 7-10 cents a round,but I'm not actively searching for it,as that's still a waste of time.
Center fire,I've been reloading for 30 years and learned to stock up long ago.
People are buying ammo when they see it for a "reasonable" price now,rather than trying to hunt it down when they need it.Theres lots of ammo about,it's sitting in closets rather than on store shelves.Thats the only difference.

 

[forestswin]

Like said above, time to reload!

As for 22LR ammo, I don't care what it costs because I haven't seen any for sale locally for at least 6 months now so price means nothing. Not crying, just stating the facts!

Oh yeah, I forgot. Cheaper Than Dirt had 500 round 22LR bricks in stock if you're willing to pay $199.59/brick. (Armscor) If 500 rounds are too much for you they are also selling 100 rounds of CCI Mini Mags for only $59.59!!!!!

Arch has it right! reload

and if price is too high - cast your vote - say "no I won't buy at that price"

dealers will have to adjust prices to sell at prices that he gets the buyer traffic he wants in his store.

sure there are buyers who will pay extreme high prices and the dealers will make a killer profit on that sale- but eventually those buyers will dry up or wise-up

the free market is like nature - it will take care of itself - if we can keep it free - we'll see what happens to places like CTD

 

[blujax01]

... According to doctrine/theory, there is no shortage

You may be right. I spent yesterday and today in the basement and I can state without fear of contradiction that there is zero shortage of 9mm in this household.

Ammo box shortages however, are another subject entirely!

(The cost for a couple K of 124 grain hollow points worked out to about $0.13 per round.)

 

[W.E.G.]

Maybe things are starting to calm down after all.

Ammo is HEAVY and BULKY.

There is only so much you can hoard until you go, "Uh-oh... what was I thinking?"

I guess if you think you can flip it real fast (and you TIME is worth next-to-nothing), it makes sense to grab a whole bunch and try to make a few dollars.

The ones who still have it stashed under their twin bed in the trailer, have gotta to be about ready to check themselves in about now.

Stock-ahead for what you will ACTUALLY USE for three years. No more. No less. Beyond that, you're gonna end up stuck with it for sure. For those of you who live in a hole, and who are prepared to be buried with it, please disregard my remarks.