Thinking of supressing my 15-22

[les strat]

Yesterday I was at my LGS and was checking out a .22 suppressor. After all is said and done, I'd be out about $550 including the tax stamp, passport photos, fingerprinting, and the suppressor itself. It would be May 2014 or so before I could take it home.

I have watched several YT videos where the 15-22 was suppressed, and it seems that click click click is about all the noise it is left with.

Anyone here with a suppressed 15-22, and if so, any issues you have encountered?

 

[vipermd]

Yes: It is quieter when suppressed. You covered cost and time. No problem. Be Safe,

 

[SpicyTunaRoll]

its already very-very quiet.
why spend the money you could spend on another gun - simply to make an already quiet gun, quieter?

 

[Gunslinger808]

I have one I run with a YHM Wraith, great shooter and very quiet, truly one of those movie quiet rifles.

A couple of considerations:
In order for it to be as effective as possible you must run subsonic ammo, I use either Aguila, CCI, or Remington subsonics.
If you use regular .22 you'll still get a sonic "crack" as the round breaks the sound barrier.

It's just as accurate with or without the suppressor, as a matter of fact, I don't have to resight in the scope when I remove or put it (the suppressor) on.

You need some type of spacer when using the suppressor, otherwise the length of the threads will butt up against the first baffle, rather than just extend into the expansion chamber.
I use Two crush washers just hand tightened.

It will get dirtier quicker, all that trapped gas/powder residue has to go somewhere.

All in all, it's a great set up and I love it, plus it actually helps train new shooters that might have issues with loud firearms.

 

[les strat]

its already very-very quiet.
why spend the money you could spend on another gun - simply to make an already quiet gun, quieter?

TO go from pow to click

I think in a true SHTF situ, hunting with it would not cause the disturbance that even a .22LR can. It really cuts it down to only hearing the action cycle.

 

[les strat]

I have one I run with a YHM Wraith, great shooter and very quiet, truly one of those movie quiet rifles.

A couple of considerations:
In order for it to be as effective as possible you must run subsonic ammo, I use either Aguila, CCI, or Remington subsonics.
If you use regular .22 you'll still get a sonic "crack" as the round breaks the sound barrier.

It's just as accurate with or without the suppressor, as a matter of fact, I don't have to resight in the scope when I remove or put it (the suppressor) on.

You need some type of spacer when using the suppressor, otherwise the length of the threads will butt up against the first baffle, rather than just extend into the expansion chamber.
I use Two crush washers just hand tightened.

It will get dirtier quicker, all that trapped gas/powder residue has to go somewhere.

All in all, it's a great set up and I love it, plus it actually helps train new shooters that might have issues with loud firearms.

(insert drool smiley)

The shop owner said that it never needs to be cleaned to "like-new" condition as it is quieter with a little fouling in the suppressor. IDK, but he said it will get quieter after it gets a little dirty.

Nice rig!

 

[Gunslinger808]

but he said it will get quieter after it gets a little dirty

To a certain extent they will get a little quieter, and the suppressors don't really need much cleaning.

If you get one that can be dis assembled, before you shoot it, take it apart and coat the internals with anti sieze, otherwise all the fouling will pretty much weld the baffle stack in place.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

its already very-very quiet.
why spend the money you could spend on another gun - simply to make an already quiet gun, quieter?

Because a 22 is not very-very quiet. Sure it is quieter than a .223 or other guns but it is still loud enough to require hearing protection. In my situation, it is still loud enough to spook my horses and some of my dogs. Looks like .22lr runs around 140-150 db.

I am in my 7th month of waiting for my stamp. Until it comes in, I shoot off my property. When it comes in, the now quiet gun will be shot on my home range. For me, I'd much rather shoot suppressed on my own property than have another gun... especially when the one suppressor will fit on 3 of my existing guns.

 

[farmerted]

Yesterday I was at my LGS and was checking out a .22 suppressor. After all is said and done, I'd be out about $550 including the tax stamp, passport photos, fingerprinting, and the suppressor itself. It would be May 2014 or so before I could take it home.

First, make a revocable living trust using Quicken, no need for fingerprints, photos, CLEO sign off. Also, using a trust, your FFL can electronically submit the Form 4 online, just make a scan of your trust. This cuts out the time just to get to the first pending status, right now, that's 2-3 months that would be cut off your wait time.

Whoever thinks a 22lr is quiet, has hearing damage.

 

[SpicyTunaRoll]

TO go from pow to click

I think in a true SHTF situ, hunting with it would not cause the disturbance that even a .22LR can. It really cuts it down to only hearing the action cycle.

trust me, i too am thinking about quiet food gathering under an SHTF situation. thats why i bought a sick crossbow.

In an SHTF what are you gonna hunt with a suppressed .22? squirrels, rabbits? id much rather suppress a .223/5.56.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

In an SHTF what are you gonna hunt with a suppressed .22? squirrels, rabbits? id much rather suppress a .223/5.56.

However, unlike in the movies, a suppressed .223 is not all that quiet. A suppressor can only reduce so much of the sound, so the quieter you start... the quieter the end result. The .22lr has much less powder... thus a much quieter suppressed end result.

I live in the country, and see squirrels and rabbits every day. It is a rare day I don't see a herd of deer and without hiding or trying to be quiet, they often are within 100 yards. In a SHTF situation, I consider my .22s to be my go to guns... especially for putting meat on the table. I have many thousands of rounds of ammo and will soon have a suppressor. My CZ 455, which has a threaded barrel, shoots sub MOA, which means at 100 yards, it groups within 1 inch. Since it has a Leupold Mark 4 on it, I would feel very comfortable in humanely taking down deer with a head shot. Sure, my AR has more power but in a SHTF situation, it would be reserved for more pressing situations.

I think my wife might disown me if I were to add a crossbow to my inventory.

 

[SpicyTunaRoll]

However, unlike in the movies, a suppressed .223 is not all that quiet. A suppressor can only reduce so much of the sound, so the quieter you start... the quieter the end result. The .22lr has much less powder... thus a much quieter suppressed end result.

thats why i spent the money on a great crossbow. i got a brand new PSE Tac15 that can be extremely deadly, yet quiet. similar performance can be had within the $500-$1000 range. spending $500 on silencing a .22lr can be (in my opinion) better spent on an even more silent weapon = crossbow or compound bow[which is fully capable of taking down a deer]

I live in the country, and see squirrels and rabbits every day.

i see those every day too, and don't live in the "country". i live in a populated area, within a subdivision. so whats your point? your gonna feed your family on rabbits & squirrels? your best bet is to take that $500 and buy something along the lines of WISE foods that can store up to 25years. that $500 in food will last you for at least a few months; which will be plenty of time to take down a deer in the meantime.

It is a rare day I don't see a herd of deer and without hiding or trying to be quiet, they often are within 100 yards.

i am not a hunter, (i am literally just getting into it as of the recent crossbow purchase) but a subsonic .22lr from a silenced .22 wont be enough to bring down a deer = correct?
i too see plenty deer in my area (my subdivision is surrounded by woods, so i figured a crossbow will help me be silent in the event i need to kill a deer during SHTF).

In a SHTF situation, I consider my .22s to be my go to guns... especially for putting meat on the table.

again, a silenced 22 will need to run subsonic .22lr in order to be "silent". so you are limited to small game for survival.
idk how many squirrel and rabbits you plan on killing, but that will mean you are spending MORE calories hunting daily, than you are taking in by eating rabbits & squirrel (and whatever else you are doing between eating/sleeping/hunting).

My CZ 455, which has a threaded barrel, shoots sub MOA, which means at 100 yards, it groups within 1 inch. Since it has a Leupold Mark 4 on it, I would feel very comfortable in humanely taking down deer with a head shot.

i am almost positive in order for you to get a good headshot you will need .22lr to be at least 1400fps (which will break the sound barrier) and will need to be at least around 50-75 yards.
Also, it is illegal in most places that I know of to take a deer with a rimfire cartridge or with a caliber as small as a .22. so if you are ready to break the law during SHTF = just grab an oil filter and call it a day(saving you $500). LOL

I think my wife might disown me if I were to add a crossbow to my inventory.

why is that? she might wanna know the percentage of deer taken down with a crossbow & compound bow every season is actually pretty large(at least where i'm from)

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Spicy, the 22lr has been used for generations for hunting small game and for harvesting animals on the farm. The suppressor will only aid in that task. If you wish to do so with a crossbow or battle ax, go for it. I will not ever be strapping on a potato or oil filter to one of my guns.

I guess we have different definitions of SHTF. I would expect it to be a long term to very long term situation, where I would not expect to have to deal with game wardens, worrying about which caliber I'm hunting with.

 

[Kayback]

More animals are lost to .22 poaching than any other caliber - at least this was a report from the US forestry agency a couple of years ago.

A suppressed .22 is more than capable of taking down an animal like a buck, if you know what you are doing and able to set up the shot. The problem with using it in a non SHTF scenario is it doesn't allow much in the way of error correction. A solid shoulder shot with a center fire cartridge is MUCH more reliable, and allows you some error in shot placement. Not so much with a .22. This is why most common hunting laws are center fire and greater than .22, lowest common denominator and all that. That being said as much as I like the semi auto goodness which will also allow rapid follow up shots, I will not be hunting with a 15-22 in a SHTF scenario either.

I haven't shot crossbows in a couple of years, but I don't remember them being all that silent. Less than a rifle? Sure. Less than a 15-22? Not so much.

A nice suppressor is a good investment. Besides the hearing safe shooting without ear muffs, it is nice for beginners and first time shooters to not have to worry about muzzle blast or report, even from a .22. It can also be used for report sensitive people. It is also just plain out fun.

A good .22 suppressor will be something you can give to your kids. I've got a Parker Hayle style suppressor that was my gramps.

A suppressor does not NEED sub sonic ammo. I've got a video around somewhere of shooting HV and Subs, the subs are quieter but even the HV's are quieter compared to an non-suppressed rifle. I don't know your ammo prices, but locally sub sonic and bulk HVHP cost the same. (within a couple of cents a round anyway).

This is my wife shooting the 15-22 with a basic suppressor, you can see me go "Duh, why'd I put my ear protection on" just as the video finishes.

Jacqui Suppressed 1522 - YouTube

 

[RedNeck Jim]

A suppressed .22 is more than capable of taking down an animal like a buck, if you know what you are doing and able to set up the shot. The problem with using it in a non SHTF scenario is it doesn't allow much in the way of error correction.

Agree 100%. I would only hunt large mammals with a 22 during extreme times... such as SHTF.

That being said as much as I like the semi auto goodness which will also allow rapid follow up shots, I will not be hunting with a 15-22 in a SHTF scenario either.

Agree again. As much as I love the 15-22, it makes a rather poor hunting rifle. Acceptable for small game inside 25-50 yards but the inherent inaccuracy of being a 3 MOA gun means no way for head shots out beyond that range. That is where a sub MOA gun, such as my CZ, comes in handy.

A good .22 suppressor will be something you can give to your kids.

Can you do so without a new stamp?

 

[telero]

Can you do so without a new stamp?

There is a tax free transfer when your kid inherits it from your estate. At least for an item registered to an individual. With a trust, it might depend on how the trust is set up. Lawyer question for sure.

 

[Dirt Dart]

As noted above, many deer are poached every year from hunters using a 22LR round.

Granted, a center fire cartridge will do the job more effectively, but a suppressed 5.56 still produces a very audible report. If you are looking for something that will produce not much more than the sound of the bolt cycling; a 15-22 with sub-sonic ammo and a good can will fit the bill nicely.

 

[Dirt Dart]

Can you do so without a new stamp?

I'm not a lawyer; but generally, in a trust, you would include your children as trustees.

 

[roadkill45]

my trust goes down through my daughter then 4 grand kids, no transfer fee. i'm a pretty avent 'stamp' collector and my first was a Pilot II. now i ALWAYS buy user serviceable cans, before i got my first one 'jail broken' it was 3 times as heavy as original. at least with the breakdowns i can put them in my harbor freight blast box and hit them with corn cob and they come out sparkling. i don't use the 'dip'.

.223/5.56 cans are quiet but still crack. i'm a predator hunter only so it lets me get consecutive shots off w/o the dog knowing where the sound is coming from, whereas one unsuppressed shot and they are out of the county.

 

[telero]

I'm not a lawyer; but generally, in a trust, you would include your children as trustees.

my trust goes down through my daughter then 4 grand kids, no transfer fee.

I think there is a limit on how far the trust can go for individuals -- can't be perpetual, but it is around 120 years or something like that. So as long as the trust stays going, there shouldn't need to be a transfer, but that assumes the trust is well written. What I was getting at is that I don't think an item in a trust can go tax free from that trust to an individual or another trust...but I'm not sure.