another one crying about the price of ammo

I timed it awful and started running REAL low on 22's last year. Hadn't bought in years.

Also bought 1006 and paid $42 for one box of ammo. Found stuff cheaper but got a used press and need to start learning to reload quick!
 
Many are claiming supply and demand is what's increasing the prices. That may be true but supply and demand works both ways. If enough of us refuse to pay the inflated prices eventually there will be an excess of supply driving the price back down again.

Now, do I have any faith this will happen, no. Too many people these days have that "hooray for me and the heck with everyone else" attitude so I'm guessing we will be stuck with these higher prices for a good long while. (if they ever come down) :mad:
 
personally I doubt you will see much of a decrease in price.....look into reloading,you get what you want,when you want it...and save a LOT
 
I think we're looking at the new "normal" as long as the nut cases like the guy that just shot up the LAX airport Friday, keep crawling out of the woodwork and serve to stir up the pot and perpetuate a panicky climate about bans. Especially here in CA.

The anti-gun sentiment ping-pong ball will continue to bounce around and prices will not have a chance to drop because of incidents like that giving the politicians more fodder/excuses (if they really needed any) for yet another round of trying to legislate us back to slingshots.

Yeah... I can hardy wait for the 2014 legislative session to commence, so yes.. in the meantime, I buying whatever I can, while I can. If that makes me part of the problem, well I'm sorry, because for the foreseeable future I can't realistically see how normal "supply and demand" rules/conditions can return under the prevailing climate.

Trying to reload as a means of counter acting the ammo prices is also a challenge here... pistol primers, popular powders like Aliant Unique, hollow point bullets like Hornady XTP and lead bullets... all in constant short supply.
 
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Even if a person has been reloading the price of components now equals what we were paying for factory ammo just a short time ago. As well, the price of ammo has never gone down that I can remember. It's here to stay.
 
You really need to look into reloading. With the current Extreme Bullets 15% discount on plated bullets the 125 grain pills I prefer to use for reloading my 38 special cost me a tick under 8 cents each. Add in 3.5 cents for primers and 2.5 cents for powder and my cost per round for 38 special is currently 14 cents a round, or 7 dollars per box. Because of the costlier bullets 45 ACP currently comes to about 18 cents per round or 9 dollars for a box of 50.

PS: sure hope that Extreme Bullets keeps that discount going for a while so I can stock up a bit more.
 
Prices will continue to climb. Not sure how many of you know this but the US government just forced the closing of the last lead smelting operation in the USA. This means lead will now have to be imported and it will cost more due to shipping expenses.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/a...ast-us-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december.aspx

I seriously doubt we will ever see the price of ammo drop unless it goes on sale.
 
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Ever consider reloading? Components are becoming available again and you can load your own for less than store bought and it will (usually) be better ammunition. You can also load types of ammo that isn't available from the manufacturers, like powder puff .44mags.

Besides, handloading gives me something to do during the 8-9 months the range is snowed in. :D


Handloading being cheaper than factory ammo is simply a MYTH. You simply cannot go out today and buy what you need for reloading and save money. What handloading does do is allow you to customize a loading to your firearm to achive better performance.
 
Handloading being cheaper than factory ammo is simply a MYTH. You simply cannot go out today and buy what you need for reloading and save money. What handloading does do is allow you to customize a loading to your firearm to achive better performance.

I disagree that handloading to save money is a myth. If you buy new brass the first round may be close to what a factory round would cost but after that the cost saving is huge as you reuse the brass. I have as many as 15 reloads on 44 mag and 45 acp and the cases are still in great shape.
If I load for one of my rifles and use premium bullets that cost $1 a piece then add 4 cents for a primer and maybe 30-40 cents for powder. You are looking at most 1.35 per round. And that is for premium bullets. Similar savings for handguns.

Equipment costs money as well but since I have been reloading for the last 48 years its not an issue. Add to the fact I can reload anytime I want and not rely on stores to have it in stock.

The only people who think reloading is to expensive are people who don't reload
 
The cheapest I can find 9mm ammo is $16 a box of 50 (or $.32 a round and that's not including 10% sales tax). I reload for around $.13 a round (including shipping, hazmat, etc.) I don't have to buy brass, there is plenty lying around the range. Even if the price was the same I would reload just to get the consistency and performance that I want (and this doesn't even consider the spotty availability). Prices on components have gone up and one has to look harder to find what you need, but I buy in bulk when I find it.
 
Don't feel bad. One round for my 9.3x74r, rifle costs $5.00 give or take a quarter or so. That is American made ammo. The European made ammo can cost even more. When you have to cough up a C note for a box of 20, you know ammo is expensive.

OH, cry me a river! :D Thats not all that much.

Just under 16 years ago, I turned 50. And I realized I needed a new gun for my birthday. At the time I worked a lot of hours, but was salaried so it didn't make much difference. My office was directly across the hall from the owner, who had a reputation for being a grouch and mean. Well, we'd become kind of friends by then. So that day I stuck my head in and told him I was taking a long lunch. He was almost 90 then. He wanted to know what I was going to do. So I always felt honesty was the best policy, at least if it involved something he'd sanction. So I told him I was going to a gun store and was going to buy myself a new rifle! His only comment was "Good". That also gave me cover for however long I wanted.

What I bought that day was a Weatherby in .30-378 caliber. I kind of had to fight with the store to even get 2 boxes of ammo with it. The clerk was holding the ammo for a friend (who I presume wanted to rechamber a rifle he had). The store manager heard my threat and came over. If you want to sell a $1500 rifle, you've got to allow me to buy ammo for it. He agreed because he wanted to sell the gun. So I managed to buy 2 boxes of ammo for $80 a box. Do the math, 1998, $80 for 20 rounds = $4 each. But prices have gone up a "tad". Today the on-line prices are between $112.50 and $120. Thats $6 a shot.

Anyway, I bought it and went back to work. It seems someone was rude and commented loudly about my terrible work ethic, taking over an hour for lunch. The company owner blew a fuse! Everyone was afraid to even whisper when I got back. I had an ally. Worse, I stuck my head in the owners door and asked if anything happened. He laughed and said they all learned a lesson in manners. Then he wanted to know what I bought! So I told him and he said "that won't do it, go get the gun and show it to me." So I marched out to the Jeep and brought in the rifle (with one box of shells!) So after the dust up when I was gone, they saw me walking back inside carrying a rifle and ammo! :D Yes, someone called the cops. They were making the run, but the owner had built the place in 1952 and also lived in the village. He was feared by everyone, employees and neighbors and well respected because of the tax base by the PD. So they very meekly came in and asked for him (and me I guess). We were back across the hall with my rifle, BSing with him holding the thing across his lap. They asked if everything was alright, and he said he was alright, he was the one with the gun (he didn't consider police handguns as worthy.)

But I can reload it for just about the same cost as a .30-06. The only real difference is it burns twice as much powder in the cases the size of old fashioned brake fluid cans. Some guns you just can't shoot unless you reload. Along the last 15 years I've picked up a couple more boxes of ammo and a couple of boxes of virgin brass.

Yes, premium bullets are getting expensive. I'll buy more when I run low on the ones I bought at the old prices. I'm sorely tempted to just cause more trouble and spend a bundle at current prices for components. I could use a 1000 large magnum rifle primers. I've got everything else, but maybe a 4# or 8# of suitable magnum powder would be nice. And a pot full of premium bullets just aren't going to ever be cheaper. When I up and croak, my son's will make a special trip just to try to clean out my gun room. Bad news, it'll take more than one trip.

I"ve been profiteering on the 22s. I've sold off maybe 20,000 of them I'd been getting from Walmart. I don't care, I'd never shoot that many. The only big users in the family are my grandsons.

How much ammo does an old man need?

I bought a new pistol Thursday. Its a .380 and I've got a few boxes of it. I'm turning over a new leaf. I haven't been dumping the ammo when I sell a gun. I have no idea how available the 100 bulk pack is, but I remember the self defense box was $25 for 20 of them. See, being a grumpy old man pays off.
 
The prices you see now are about as low as it will get . THIS IS the new normal ,for now, and , a year from now, we will only be able to wish we could buy ammo at Nov 2013 prices. It will go up from here.
5 years from now, you will not be able to walk into a store and buy ammo, at ANY price . Gov.and UN regulations have infiltrated the ammunition industry . No more lead in the US, no more importing of ammo making componants (lead) from overseas (UN small arms treaty)
etc. Things are about to get REAL bad . Right now, this is what is known as the 'calm before the storm'
You heard it here first.

The Alabama Patriot
 
Yeah they are. :( However, some of us remember .22 LR at a penny each and the store would break a box and sell you as few as you wanted. :)

Did the same store break open a pack of Marlboro's and sell you one of those for a nickel? The country grocery store by the gravel pit where we shot did that. He had open boxes of shotgun shells, too. If you were going hunting, how many rounds did you really need? Eggs, you could buy as many as you needed, not just a dozen. Hint: The lady in the farm up the land behind the store would sell eggs cheaper. But you might have to go find them. She knew where the hens laid them if not in the hen house. The old guy in the store would also make you a sandwich. He'd charge you for the bread, for the ham or roast beef, or lunchmeat. If you wanted mustard or ketchup, it was extra. Not a lot, maybe a penny or two. Kind of depended on if he liked you and you were a regular or not.

We're too used to big business and the way they operate. Old Howie made a passable living in his store. It was about 5 miles from home. When we were young teens, like pre-driving, we'd ride our bicycles over to shoot. Then to go back up the enormous hill toward home, we'd need a soft drink. He never charged us the 2 cent deposit because we always just left the empty with him. Imagine today if a "gang" of hoodlums were seen on a country road on bikes, each carrying a rifle! And then going into a store!
 
I disagree that handloading to save money is a myth. If you buy new brass the first round may be close to what a factory round would cost but after that the cost saving is huge as you reuse the brass. I have as many as 15 reloads on 44 mag and 45 acp and the cases are still in great shape.
If I load for one of my rifles and use premium bullets that cost $1 a piece then add 4 cents for a primer and maybe 30-40 cents for powder. You are looking at most 1.35 per round. And that is for premium bullets. Similar savings for handguns.

Equipment costs money as well but since I have been reloading for the last 48 years its not an issue. Add to the fact I can reload anytime I want and not rely on stores to have it in stock.

The only people who think reloading is to expensive are people who don't reload

Where LadyT is located (somewhere in Texas, if I remember correctly), it may be true. I've heard some horror stories about the prices some folks have to pay either locally or on line because components simply aren't available. Those hazmat fees alone are enough to make you cry!

I will say that saving money reloading is a myth simply because none of the reloaders I know can keep their mitts off the trigger. I may "save" 1/2 to 2/3 the cost by loading but I'm shooting 2x to 3x more. The net effect is that the same money per month goes out the door as before.;)
 
I looked into reloading but after pricing components, just didn't see the big savings. Not for 9mm anyway which is mostly what I shoot. I could see it for the larger calibers such as .44 and rifle calibers.
I've been able to find about any caliber I want (9mm, .38,.45,.380) at Walmart. .22 I've been able to get on-line for 4 - 5 cents a round.
 
.22 I've been able to get on-line for 4 - 5 cents a round.


Please post some links showing where the rest of us can purchase .22LR for 4-5 cents per round. I am certain many would appreciate it. That turns out to be $20 - $25 for a brick of 500.
 
I looked into reloading but after pricing components, just didn't see the big savings. Not for 9mm anyway which is mostly what I shoot. I could see it for the larger calibers such as .44 and rifle calibers.
I've been able to find about any caliber I want (9mm, .38,.45,.380) at Walmart. .22 I've been able to get on-line for 4 - 5 cents a round.

I make 9mm 124 grain hollow points, using plated bullets, (which are indoor range friendly), for $12/100.

158 grain 38 Special costs about the same to make and 45 ACP runs me about $18/100.

Of course, I shoot two to three times as much as I did before so the monthly money outlay is about the same! ;)
 

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