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Coldshooter
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that plane is going to be a beauty finished enjoy flying it.
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Wenzomatic
US Veteran
Check out a Sport License I believe there is no physical required...
Mike Wenzel
Oklahoma City
Mike Wenzel
Oklahoma City
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
My son-in-law had a lovely little 1946 Luscomb, but pranged it a couple of years ago. He and the passenger walked away with a few bruises, but the bird was less fortunate.
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
My plane is too heavy and fast to be considered sport . My plan is to pass the physical if possible, fly for a short while and sell it as sort of a ego thing I guess as its been so long. I want to fly over a lot of the country around me as sort of a scouting thing as my main love is exploring with atv besides flying. For me, that plane while a two seater is really a one seater at our weight and taking gas along would be nice. We are already at 6,000 ft and it gets over 10 K around us. My wife wont fly anyway and its kind of selfish going a lot by myself. Plan to sell it and buy a high end side by side UTV. Want to fly and scout this country. Many years ago I did do just that seeing places to explore with 4X4`s. Used to talk to buddys on the ground with a CB, find a place to land and they would come and get me. Those old friends are all dead or older than me now.
Bullzaye
US Veteran
zzzippper
Member
Reminds me of the day a Korean contractor took out the ejection seat of an F15 without using a counter weight. It gently tipped back and sat o it's exhausts.
Or the day the Kuwaiti army tipped an M1 Abrams on it's back from a transporter. With the engine running.
Or the day the Kuwaiti army tipped an M1 Abrams on it's back from a transporter. With the engine running.
BobC357
Member
Tricycles are easy to tip. Thanks for a good story.
ChuckS1
US Veteran
Kuwaitis aren't the only soldiers who do that. I've seen M1s upside down and one their sides, courtesy of US Army hotrodders. My favorite one was actually a M163 Vulcan at FT Hood. My driver pulled at a ford where there was a SGT standing in fast moving water over his boots. Said he was standing on his M163 and got caught in the flash flood. We had that one in my fire control maintenance shop for 4 months getting the radar to run right.
Here's a similar result:
F-16 Tipped Over Accident - YouTube
An F-16 taxis behind a B-1 and gets tipped over by the jet blast form the B-1.
F-16 Tipped Over Accident - YouTube
An F-16 taxis behind a B-1 and gets tipped over by the jet blast form the B-1.
Big Cholla
Member
Alaska CB Air to Ground
Many years ago, I lived in Alaska and owned a Super Cub, I put a CB radio in it and did some air to game hunting coordination with my hunter buddies while hunting moose. We were not trophy hunting, just looking for a youn'n to put a lot of good red meat in the freezer. The AK F&G got wind of someone else doing that and notified the Federal Government's FCC. CB's were a relatively new radio system to the FCC and they were all over them and their use. It was illegal to fly and to hunt the same day in AK and the F&G guys thought the use of a CB was a violation of that regulation. It probably was, but Alaskans have a healthy disrespect for all authority and we continued to use the air to ground CB when we felt it was necessary. The FCC threatened to perform an inspection on all privately owned planes in Anchorage. I just pulled my CB and put in push/pull connectors for the power and antenna and would lay it on the seat behind me upside down so the speaker was open. I carried the CB back and forth to the Cub in my Brain Bag. The four of us in on this never failed to put one or two young moose into our collective freezers for four years in a row.
My house was near the line of where most small aircraft landing Merrill Field turn 'Base Leg' to land on the East to West runway. One day I made a mistake and used the CB to call my wife while on the base leg while landing. I just said, "Her Name, I'm on base and will be home in about 30 minutes." A friend of mine who just happened to be an AK F&G officer heard the broadcast. He called me later that night and told me that it was a good thing that it was him that heard that broadcast and not one of the "badge heavy" guys. I agreed.
Alaskans wholeheartedly took to CBs. Most of us had at least a base set at home and it would be on most of the time. I also had one in every vehicle. Lots of us went in to it big time. I used the CB to coordinate with my construction foremen on jobs all around Anchorage. With my base set directional antenna, I could listen to 'skip' from all over the Western World. That worked best during the winter and at night. I once talked to a ships radio operator while his ship was pulling into Adak, AK. I also talked to a guy in Oregon for a few minutes. I listened to a ship's radio operator talk to his girl friend who was on Guam while he was onboard ship about 6 hours out from Guam.
An aside; I have flown my Cessna 180 all over Southern Utah and the Grand Canyon area. While I was flying for my Police Agency, I flew their Cessna 180 all over Zion, Bryce Canyon and Panguitch area while loaned out to BLM while looking for pot growers. You already know of the air density problem. When you get back into flying please be very careful. That high mountain area is an easy place to run out of airspeed, altitude and ideas all at the wrong time. ........ Big Cholla
Many years ago, I lived in Alaska and owned a Super Cub, I put a CB radio in it and did some air to game hunting coordination with my hunter buddies while hunting moose. We were not trophy hunting, just looking for a youn'n to put a lot of good red meat in the freezer. The AK F&G got wind of someone else doing that and notified the Federal Government's FCC. CB's were a relatively new radio system to the FCC and they were all over them and their use. It was illegal to fly and to hunt the same day in AK and the F&G guys thought the use of a CB was a violation of that regulation. It probably was, but Alaskans have a healthy disrespect for all authority and we continued to use the air to ground CB when we felt it was necessary. The FCC threatened to perform an inspection on all privately owned planes in Anchorage. I just pulled my CB and put in push/pull connectors for the power and antenna and would lay it on the seat behind me upside down so the speaker was open. I carried the CB back and forth to the Cub in my Brain Bag. The four of us in on this never failed to put one or two young moose into our collective freezers for four years in a row.
My house was near the line of where most small aircraft landing Merrill Field turn 'Base Leg' to land on the East to West runway. One day I made a mistake and used the CB to call my wife while on the base leg while landing. I just said, "Her Name, I'm on base and will be home in about 30 minutes." A friend of mine who just happened to be an AK F&G officer heard the broadcast. He called me later that night and told me that it was a good thing that it was him that heard that broadcast and not one of the "badge heavy" guys. I agreed.
Alaskans wholeheartedly took to CBs. Most of us had at least a base set at home and it would be on most of the time. I also had one in every vehicle. Lots of us went in to it big time. I used the CB to coordinate with my construction foremen on jobs all around Anchorage. With my base set directional antenna, I could listen to 'skip' from all over the Western World. That worked best during the winter and at night. I once talked to a ships radio operator while his ship was pulling into Adak, AK. I also talked to a guy in Oregon for a few minutes. I listened to a ship's radio operator talk to his girl friend who was on Guam while he was onboard ship about 6 hours out from Guam.
An aside; I have flown my Cessna 180 all over Southern Utah and the Grand Canyon area. While I was flying for my Police Agency, I flew their Cessna 180 all over Zion, Bryce Canyon and Panguitch area while loaned out to BLM while looking for pot growers. You already know of the air density problem. When you get back into flying please be very careful. That high mountain area is an easy place to run out of airspeed, altitude and ideas all at the wrong time. ........ Big Cholla
Thunderhawk88
Member
I can't tell an A/B from an E, so that's either a $30 million or $45 million aircraft. Either way, it's an expensive screwup.
At least they put the cover over the air intake. You don't want one of these.
(that guy lived).
THAT was a major piece of FOD!
steveno
Member
the learning curve about doing things on a flightline can be hard. before I got out in 1973 I worked with PanAm on the other side of the airport at Frankfurt their avionics shop had a VW bus for use on the flightline. when I started there I noticed a bunch of scraps on the side of the bus and the roof. when the 747's first started coming out they never gave it much of a thought and drove a little to close to back of a 747 that was underway and it rolled the bus a couple of times. luckily the chewing out he got was worse than the bumps and scratches he got from rolling around in the bus
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Big Cholla, you might know of a airstrip called Hart Mine strip about 25 miles SW of searchlight? Christmas of I think, 1976 I found a drugger C-45 that had ground looped. I had just left some friends at searchlight in my piper tri pacer and was still talking to them on the CB. I landed by the plane, got info, the door was unlocked. It turned out to be quite a adventure. I posted the story here a couple years ago and I am looking for it, think I have it stored on my computer. Hope to find it and repost it. It was interesting and I got involved.
You mentioned looking for pot. I didnt read too much about it last summer but in 2012 they found about 8 gardens in the boonies around here that I had read of. I had been riding quad around almost all of them at one time or another. Wondered what those black PC pipes running all around on the ground in the middle of nowhere were about! Sounds like you have had your share of fun!
You mentioned looking for pot. I didnt read too much about it last summer but in 2012 they found about 8 gardens in the boonies around here that I had read of. I had been riding quad around almost all of them at one time or another. Wondered what those black PC pipes running all around on the ground in the middle of nowhere were about! Sounds like you have had your share of fun!
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feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Found my old story:
FINDING THE C-45
The best thing I found was a beachcraft twin airplane, better known as a C-45 or beach 18. Right after christmass of 1976 I was flying from searchlight nevada towards southern california. I spotted it groundlooped on a remote desert strip that really wasnt much more than a gravel trail or road. Soon as I spotted it I knew it was a drug runner. I buzzed it, checking the area and was satisfied there was no activity or a human in many miles and decided to land and check it out. I had spotted vehicle tracks going to and away from it before I landed. I was in CB contact with a couple of friends I had just left at a strip just south of searchlight and let them know what I was doing. I could see where the pilot had to land long due to a rain washed gully or ditch about a quarter way down the strip. That caused him to "run out" of strip and he had to ground loop it on purpose. He knocked down a jousha tree just in front of the rudder and emperage area when he spun it around. It bent the fueslage sort of like a broken wrist. The door was unlocked and I got in the plane. The dirt tracks all looked fresh and the 8 day clock was still running. The passenger seats were gone to just haul cargo. I got info off the paperwork and the plane was registered to a female in burbank california.
One of my pals that I dropped off at searchlight was also a pilot. My other friend was a aircraft mechanic and inspector and we all worked for lockheed aircraft at palmdale. We had been on a lark just boondocking over the holidays. They had a 4 WD with a camper. About a week prior we had flew the area known as the old woman mountains etc. They had a fantacy about exploreing, finding old buidings or a mine or whatever else. Really they were just getting away from their wives for a few days to do a little boondocking, gambling and drinking and had talked me into this adventure. The plan was they drove out first and was going to flnd a spot I could land in. I was working OT on christmass eve and going to fly out to them christmass day. Christmass eve before I was going to work (security guard) they called me and said they couldnt find a suitabel place for me to land as it had been raining hard and there were rain gullys all over. They said for me to just land near the town of searchlight and they would pick me up.
I took down the info on the plane and got up in the air and radio`ed them. They had the same flight sectional I did. I flew back to lancaster and reported my find to the FAA. They hadnt a report on it. My buddys got into it latter that night. They even fired up one engine. They were drunk and one fell into a cactus and the other pulled spines out of his butt! They were leaveing the area the next morning and met a truck with 2 men and a woman about 10 miles out headed towards the plane.
They turned around, gave them some time and drove back. They said they had the nose cone removed and was takeing stuff out!
They yelled over to them that they should leave the plane alone as they had a buddy that reported it. They said the people were armed and swore at them so they left. They drove out to I think essex and called the sheriffs. They had to wait hours on the sheriff to show and make a report.
The next day I got ahold of some FAA offical and asked about fileing salvage on the plane. He put me in touch with a los vegas detective. After a number of back and forth calls the detective told me he had been following this drug gang for over 6 months and that they had killed people etc. We went to a lawyer and basicly she said there was no "paperwork" to file! She pulled out a book on shipwreck laws and basicly said we could recover the wreckage and if the owners showed up we could charge them storage!
We did get back to plane a few times. I figured the first time our best bet would be new years eve, and 4 of us went in at midnight armed to the teeth. I even walked in the last mile or so by myself to see if there was any activity. Never will forget that hike! I did have a AR-15 though. No one was there. All the instruments were already removed! My buddy with the truck built a hoist on the back and we went again about a week latter at night again, another hike in and out by myself the last mile. I was dissapointed to find the plane laying on its belly with the engines gone! Oil was still dripping out of cut lines!
A few years latter I was at california city and spotted a similar plane. I made some joke to the FOB that I once owned one like it for a day! I told him the story and he told me he got burned on the deal too! Someone had hired him to recover the airplane and he did get it and got stiffed on his work!
We got next to nothing, but it was a good adventure!
Were it to happen again I would have put guards on it, get friends to repair it and fly it out! Some of that I did plan, but ran into trouble convinceing my friends in time.
Both of my friends are dead.
FINDING THE C-45
The best thing I found was a beachcraft twin airplane, better known as a C-45 or beach 18. Right after christmass of 1976 I was flying from searchlight nevada towards southern california. I spotted it groundlooped on a remote desert strip that really wasnt much more than a gravel trail or road. Soon as I spotted it I knew it was a drug runner. I buzzed it, checking the area and was satisfied there was no activity or a human in many miles and decided to land and check it out. I had spotted vehicle tracks going to and away from it before I landed. I was in CB contact with a couple of friends I had just left at a strip just south of searchlight and let them know what I was doing. I could see where the pilot had to land long due to a rain washed gully or ditch about a quarter way down the strip. That caused him to "run out" of strip and he had to ground loop it on purpose. He knocked down a jousha tree just in front of the rudder and emperage area when he spun it around. It bent the fueslage sort of like a broken wrist. The door was unlocked and I got in the plane. The dirt tracks all looked fresh and the 8 day clock was still running. The passenger seats were gone to just haul cargo. I got info off the paperwork and the plane was registered to a female in burbank california.
One of my pals that I dropped off at searchlight was also a pilot. My other friend was a aircraft mechanic and inspector and we all worked for lockheed aircraft at palmdale. We had been on a lark just boondocking over the holidays. They had a 4 WD with a camper. About a week prior we had flew the area known as the old woman mountains etc. They had a fantacy about exploreing, finding old buidings or a mine or whatever else. Really they were just getting away from their wives for a few days to do a little boondocking, gambling and drinking and had talked me into this adventure. The plan was they drove out first and was going to flnd a spot I could land in. I was working OT on christmass eve and going to fly out to them christmass day. Christmass eve before I was going to work (security guard) they called me and said they couldnt find a suitabel place for me to land as it had been raining hard and there were rain gullys all over. They said for me to just land near the town of searchlight and they would pick me up.
I took down the info on the plane and got up in the air and radio`ed them. They had the same flight sectional I did. I flew back to lancaster and reported my find to the FAA. They hadnt a report on it. My buddys got into it latter that night. They even fired up one engine. They were drunk and one fell into a cactus and the other pulled spines out of his butt! They were leaveing the area the next morning and met a truck with 2 men and a woman about 10 miles out headed towards the plane.
They turned around, gave them some time and drove back. They said they had the nose cone removed and was takeing stuff out!
They yelled over to them that they should leave the plane alone as they had a buddy that reported it. They said the people were armed and swore at them so they left. They drove out to I think essex and called the sheriffs. They had to wait hours on the sheriff to show and make a report.
The next day I got ahold of some FAA offical and asked about fileing salvage on the plane. He put me in touch with a los vegas detective. After a number of back and forth calls the detective told me he had been following this drug gang for over 6 months and that they had killed people etc. We went to a lawyer and basicly she said there was no "paperwork" to file! She pulled out a book on shipwreck laws and basicly said we could recover the wreckage and if the owners showed up we could charge them storage!
We did get back to plane a few times. I figured the first time our best bet would be new years eve, and 4 of us went in at midnight armed to the teeth. I even walked in the last mile or so by myself to see if there was any activity. Never will forget that hike! I did have a AR-15 though. No one was there. All the instruments were already removed! My buddy with the truck built a hoist on the back and we went again about a week latter at night again, another hike in and out by myself the last mile. I was dissapointed to find the plane laying on its belly with the engines gone! Oil was still dripping out of cut lines!
A few years latter I was at california city and spotted a similar plane. I made some joke to the FOB that I once owned one like it for a day! I told him the story and he told me he got burned on the deal too! Someone had hired him to recover the airplane and he did get it and got stiffed on his work!
We got next to nothing, but it was a good adventure!
Were it to happen again I would have put guards on it, get friends to repair it and fly it out! Some of that I did plan, but ran into trouble convinceing my friends in time.
Both of my friends are dead.
Big Cholla
Member
Hart Mine, CA
Feral: Yes, I know that strip well. I landed there once to pickup a fellow LEO that was in that area on a manhunt and started exhibiting signs of a medical problem. Then later I went back in my personal C-180 to hunt coyotes. Later I landed on top of the tailing pile of that mine. I was not here in '75. I was living near Phoenix at the time. I did find a Beechcraft D-18 abandoned for a few days after a wheels up landing on the Pierce's Ferry airstrip in 1990. It turned out it was a legit Grand Canyon tour flight that ran out of fuel and the pilot did a dead stick landing on that strip. The pilot had to retract the wheels after touchdown to prevent going off the end of the mesa. The owners came back in a couple of days with a salvage crew and took the wings off and loaded it all on a flatbed trailer. You kind of pushed "The Envelope" of that Tri-Pacer, didn't you? The very first private airplane that I ever flew or even had flown in was a Tri-Pacer. I flew one in Alaska that had been converted into what was a great floatplane. They re-engined it with a more powerful engine that had a constant speed prop, extended the wings one rib and put super tips on the wings. I really liked it, but only got to fly it a couple of times. ........... Big Cholla
Feral: Yes, I know that strip well. I landed there once to pickup a fellow LEO that was in that area on a manhunt and started exhibiting signs of a medical problem. Then later I went back in my personal C-180 to hunt coyotes. Later I landed on top of the tailing pile of that mine. I was not here in '75. I was living near Phoenix at the time. I did find a Beechcraft D-18 abandoned for a few days after a wheels up landing on the Pierce's Ferry airstrip in 1990. It turned out it was a legit Grand Canyon tour flight that ran out of fuel and the pilot did a dead stick landing on that strip. The pilot had to retract the wheels after touchdown to prevent going off the end of the mesa. The owners came back in a couple of days with a salvage crew and took the wings off and loaded it all on a flatbed trailer. You kind of pushed "The Envelope" of that Tri-Pacer, didn't you? The very first private airplane that I ever flew or even had flown in was a Tri-Pacer. I flew one in Alaska that had been converted into what was a great floatplane. They re-engined it with a more powerful engine that had a constant speed prop, extended the wings one rib and put super tips on the wings. I really liked it, but only got to fly it a couple of times. ........... Big Cholla
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
My tri pacer was metalized. It was a great airplane and I didnt realize what I had lucked into! I later cracked it up but thats another story. I had a bachelor uncle that had died. (Actually committed suicide). He had told me he was going to leave me some money and told me not to save it but blow it on something I always wanted to do. Said he wished he had. I had already started and stopped flying lessons but had quit due to lack of money. I took the money and bought that tri pacer for $5,000s! Got my license in it.
Cracked it up and bought my citabria. Someone else badly ground looped it and I have been out of the flying thing for many years. Now its just about done and I am getting ready for my physical. Still have to get some time and get a bi annual etc. Its a long sad story but basicly I want to fly for awhile to feed my ego and prove to myself I can still fly. And then sell it and buy a new UTV side by side etc. I havent flown in ages, have about 400 hours. Years ago I did fly the citabria to wisconsin and back and lived. Merril
Cracked it up and bought my citabria. Someone else badly ground looped it and I have been out of the flying thing for many years. Now its just about done and I am getting ready for my physical. Still have to get some time and get a bi annual etc. Its a long sad story but basicly I want to fly for awhile to feed my ego and prove to myself I can still fly. And then sell it and buy a new UTV side by side etc. I havent flown in ages, have about 400 hours. Years ago I did fly the citabria to wisconsin and back and lived. Merril
Doug M.
Member
I suspect that the 3 photos in the first post are in the encyclopedia entry for "negative NCOER" as an illustration. That entry is probably also cross referenced to "career limiting maneuver".
Big Cholla
Member
No, Anchorage would be far too good of duty for him. More like Creech AFB, NV. Have you ever seen Creech? ............ Big Cholla
I remember a co-worker of mine was pre-flighting an F-14B to take up and had a caution light for the nose gear. The Plane Captain told him to cycle the gear switch as it was probably a bad reading. Well, when he hit the switch the nose gear worked as advertised, retracted, and smashed the nose and AWG-9 radar right into the deck! Oops. Several $Million in damages.
