My Rant! TIP jars at fast food joints!

The way I figure, fast food workers do not warrants tips. Maybe that is just me, but I always thought tips are for when you sit down and are served a meal, or the meal is delivered to your home. In those cases I tip well. If you cannot afford to tip, then go to drive through or make a meal at home.
 
I tip very well and even leave some kind of tip for lousy service. I am buying a product (my food) and the tip goes to the waitperson that takes care of me during my meal. A tip is earned, not to be demanded or taken out of my change. I'll determine the amount, thank you.
 
Tips are Rewards for the Service Provided

To me tips are payment for the service which was provided. If the waiter/waitress is attentive and provides service I have no problem with a 15% to 20% tip. However, if the service was "non-existent" then the tip is a quarter just to show that I didn't forget to tip. Case in point, a few months my wife and I were at a restaurant and the girl (won't call her a waitress) took our order and delivered the food. We never saw her again. She never came back to check on us. I had to get the water pitcher and refill my own water glass and I had to do it twice! When we were done, I had to get the attention of another waitress and asked her to have our girl deliver the check. Lack of service, begets lack of tip.
 
I get five-dollar foot longs at least once a week in my local S****y. I also chat with the ladies behind the counter and they chat with me. I will usually tip them for their service and their attitude.

YMMV.
 
With so many people content to sit on their butts or stand on the street corner taking unemployment... I am more than happy to tip folks working in fast food or waiting tables (That is if their service and attitude are OK.)

I can afford it and hope that in some little way it motivates them to continue to do productive work and stay off the dole.

I have a lot of other things to get upset about. But that's just me. (Things are a lot different than when I was a kid...)
 
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I'm not a rich man but feel lucky to have alittle money in my pocket.I feel for the fast food workers who take a low wage/hard/always knocked on job.Because I am fortunate I always tip well,it helps the person maybe not so fortunate,in some way I think it helps us both.

BUT,to take a 3$ plus tip w/out asking is abit over the line,I would have told him to fish out the cash and keep the coin.Most likely eat somewhere else in the future.
 
Alpo, yes its still $2, or thereabouts, even at the fancy place. Waitress jobs are all tip based regardless of restaurant. Of course it's possible that a restaurant has their own rule for paying employees but it's highly unlikely. It's like car or home salesmen. ...they make % commission on the sale. There might be a company that pays salary but it's unlikely. That's how these jobs are structured. Another thing, I don't buy into that "get a better job" if it was that easy we would all be Bill Gates. Someone has to be a driver, salesman, waitress, hostess, barber....etc...etc.. Also this might be their version of getting a better job. One has to pay for school somehow right?

I see it like this. If I have to have things brought to me I can pay for it. Otherwise I can get up and get/do it myself.

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I don't tip at fast food places when they have a jar out. I guess I consider it a new practice that I don't want to participate in. Maybe that makes me cheap but I do tip well at places that have waitress's. I'd be upset too if someone took my change and put it in a tip jar.
 
Re: OP. "Unkind" word? Your lucky you didn't have to pick it up off the floor. If you don't want to tip, that's fine. They'll get along fine without your tip. But, they are not in any way obligated to have to listen to anyone at all who wants to address them with "unkind" remarks.

As to "ingrates..." is that merely an assumption or is it based in fact?

Now, as to tipping. I tip. I've got no complaints with tipping. This isn't old europe. Tipping is the norm for most restaurants. Given that most fast-food restaurants pay minimum wage, it is not unreasonable that tipping would be expected. If a tip make the meal to expensive, then one cannot afford to eat out. So, there are sandwiches at home. Absolute bare bones minimum is 15% at the very least with 20% the norm for good service. Again, if the tip makes the meal to expensive, one can't really afford to eat out.

Tips for fast food workers? It is no different than Walmart or any other business paying their employees minimum wage... and then giving those employees directions on how to access various welfare programs, etc. These companies pay the minimum and expect the taxpayer to subsidize their business operation. It is the same with companies that want to move into a area and expect to be cut slack on taxes in return for locating in that area, i.e., they want the tax payer to subsidize their operation. At least with the tips for fast food workers the people paying the subsidy are the ones actually receiving the product/service rendered. It would be appropriate to speak with the owner of the fast food restaurant and ask them why they are not paying a better wage to their employees. Once upon a time baggers at grocery stores were tipped. Then that custom went away as the grocery stores began to pay more than minimum wage. Cool.
 
Well I live in Vegas which is a big service industry city. I don't mind a tip for good service but when I have to pay $9 for a shot of Patron for my wife that p@##@s me off!! Being a local we get shafted more times than I can count. Then the service union members have the B@#@S to picket in front of an upscale hotel & call the customers names when they go in. On Sat. nights we go to the same place & we get the same meal all the time & the tip is the same for poor or good service.

BW
 
Tips are for service.... your gun store "serves" you when they hand you a box of ammo, or even check you out if its a get your own ammo situation. Even circle K gas stations have tip jars out now... this is silly... especially when circle K folks (and subway folks) get paid more than the "waitress rate"... This is solicitation.... I do not frequent places with tip jars, and I do not appreciate the pizza guy asking "do you want your change"? It is rude. I slung pizzas for many years and i NEVER asked someone if they wanted their change, I simply counted it out! That was my job.... If I did it well, people may be gratuitous.... if not I didn't fret about it, just did my job. I found that most folks did tip when they were treated well, and not subjected to my proverbial "hand out".
 
There's a lot of reminiscing in this thread, which is interesting.

Interesting, because the times being reminisced had higher minimum wages, lower cost of living, lower cost of housing, and access to family-supporting jobs with a high school diploma.

Today's America is not the same, people on the bottom rungs really are worse off than they would have been 40 years ago. We can argue about the whys and hows until we are blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact that it is harder to survive in America today than it used to be. It may be hard to imagine, but young folks today have it harder than their parents did--a first in American history--and deriding them for it is misplaced, counterproductive, and out of touch with reality.
 
We eat out at least once a week at decent restaurants and we tip according to the ability of the sever. Normally if there on the ball and pleasant 20%, have left much more than that if circumstances warrant.

As far as these fast food places at least in my state they get paid decent. (Some real restaurants can pay a couple bucks a hour and tips make up the rest of the servers pay) You can tell these places as the servers are very attentive and go out of their way to please you. (My son did that gig for a while and a good waiter can make a very good living)

Lately it’s getting to the point that any quick place that has anything to do with food has a tip jar displayed at the counter. (Tacky, VERY TACKY) That is referring to sub shops, pizza joints in the good weather those frozen ice cream shops, where they hand you your item though a sliding door above the counter and back you go to your car...

Sorry folks for a few seconds in a ice cream stand to a couple minutes in a sub shop you have done nothing to garner a tip and as far as I and many other fell that tip jar is inappropriate.

I have never had anyone just dump change in jar or ask "do you want your change back"
 
I'm certainly not knocking you but another pet peeve of mine is people thinking that if a fast food place has tables they must also have busboys.

The change from $10 on a $6+ sandwich was over $3. Do you often tip 50%?

At issue here is the presumption of a tip and how much. I object to both. My choice on both issues.
 
Some states permit a lower pay scale for jobs where tips are normal. Some of the pay scales are really low. No tip=no takehome. If the server has your food outside your line of sight for any length of time, you may want to treat them nicely.
 
A friend of mine grew up in Japan. She told me that if you leave a tip in a Japanese restaurant, they will chase you down the street in order to give you your money back. They pay their waitstaff a fair wage and it's folded into the price.

I think their system is better.
 
Sorry but YOU are the rude one. Unless the kid is a grease ball with boogers hanging out then he probably deserves at least the coin from your change.
If you are too poor or too chintzy to give a tip then say say Pardon me but I need that back. People in the service industry are stomped on all too often.
Get bullied in HS? Taking it out on the service people? All ya gotta do is yell MANAGER! Make you feel like big ****? Probably!

I suppose, since you included the "MANAGER!" comment, this was directed at me.

>If you are too poor or too chintzy to give a tip then say say Pardon me but I need that back. People in the service industry are stomped on all too often.<

The counter kid at Subway gets paid the same as the counter kid at Walmart. So if you were at Wallyworld and bought a box of 9mm, for 16 bucks, and handed the kid a 20, and he put the 4 dollars change in his pocket, you'd just think, "Well, he's in a service industry and NEEDS that money - I can afford it"? You would not get upset with the Walmart clerk stealing your four dollars?

How about if you paid with a 50? Would you be upset with his stealing your 34 dollars?

At what point would you become upset with his stealing from you?

Stealing is stealing. If you get caught shoplifting a fifty-cent candy bar at Walmart, they call the cops and take you to jail. Why do you see no problem with the Subway guy stealing 4 dollars change?
 
The change from $10 on a $6+ sandwich was over $3. Do you often tip 50%?

At issue here is the presumption of a tip and how much. I object to both. My choice on both issues.

And someone on here said you would have to pick your meal up off the floor if the check came to $120.00 and they added an $80.00 tip to your credit card and the customer said (dam or ****).

REALLY????
 
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