remington golden bullets?

[cyphertext]

OK, on page 10 it's not listed as a recommended ammo. On page 11 it says not recommended. If you want to say it doesn't say don't do it, ok fine, but if it's not on the list, what's the practical difference.?

We have covered that list, when it was created, and why it is no longer valid.

If you want to limit yourself to the small selection of ammo that is "recommended", then by all means, suit yourself. Your money, your rifle. However, you will not damage your rifle by using GB. At worst, you may find that your rifle does not feed them reliably, or they are less accurate than other bulk rounds. You could have the same result with the recommended rounds... notice it says to try several boxes of the recommended ammo and if you get failure to fire or other issues, try a different brand.

This has not been my experience with them though. They cycle and shoot fine from my rifles.

 

[Smitty357]

If any of the GB lovers have some CCI they would like to trade. I will gladly walk in the store and buy some GBs to trade with u.

 

[cyphertext]

If any of the GB lovers have some CCI they would like to trade. I will gladly walk in the store and buy some GBs to trade with u.

Nobody said that they were better than CCI, and CCI costs at least twice as much. You willing to trade 2 for 1 and cover shipping?

 

[cxwrench]

I bought 3 525 round boxes of the stuff this weekend. I just got done shooting 100 rounds through my new to me 15-22. Not one issue, every round shot great. I am still sighting in my red dot sight at 25 yards. I have a nice grouping left to right as I adjusted the dot. My elevation was about an inch tall in the left to right grouping. I think a few more clicks and my left to right calibration should be right on and then I can work on my elevation. I would not hesitate shooting all 3 of the 525 round boxes through my rifle.

Wait...100 rounds fired and still sighting in?

 

[Smitty357]

Nobody said that they were better than CCI, and CCI costs at least twice as much. You willing to trade 2 for 1 and cover shipping?

LoL those GBs should ship free as useless as they are.

 

[AGoyette]

Wait...100 rounds fired and still sighting in?

Yes. I am making little tweaks at a time.. Fire approx. 5 rounds, roll the target that is at 25 yards in, look at it, tweak the red dot a smidgen more, send the target back out, fire a few more rounds. At first I was turning the right to left adjustment the wrong way. I had to correct that mistake and move the red dot more in the correct direction. While most people would say that it is sighted in fine (bad guy would be dead based on holes in target) it is not perfect (or close to perfect yet) yet. I am not one who shoots 20 rounds and says, Yeah, it looks close enough. If it is not hitting where I want it to, shooting from a rest, then it needs adjusting, IMO.

 

[gm272gs]

I typically only shoot Federal 510s in my 22s, but my Smith 15-22 and Ruger 10/22 shoot everything reliably. I mean there's nothing those rifles won't shoot.

 

[bhayles]

... most likely come from user reports and not any testing by S&W....

So...S&W is lying? The manual CLEARLY states they tested them.

 

[Majorlk]

Yes. I am making little tweaks at a time.. Fire approx. 5 rounds, roll the target that is at 25 yards in, look at it, tweak the red dot a smidgen more, send the target back out, fire a few more rounds. At first I was turning the right to left adjustment the wrong way. I had to correct that mistake and move the red dot more in the correct direction. While most people would say that it is sighted in fine (bad guy would be dead based on holes in target) it is not perfect (or close to perfect yet) yet. I am not one who shoots 20 rounds and says, Yeah, it looks close enough. If it is not hitting where I want it to, shooting from a rest, then it needs adjusting, IMO.

Other than enjoying the shooting, you are wasting ammo taking that much time and effort to sight in. You can do it in less than 10 rounds, if you do it right.

Shoot from a solid rest - either an actual rest or over sandbags
Aim at the center of the target (cross hairs are best) and fire one round.
Center your sight on the resulting bullet hole
Adjust the sight to place the aiming dot back on the center of the target
Fire another round.
Repeat the above step, if necessary.

I've never taken more than 10 shots to zero any set of sights using the above method.

 

[Majorlk]

So...S&W is lying? The manual CLEARLY states they tested them.

Yea, they say that ... and that so-called testing, if done, was done several years ago and nothing more has been done since. The manual has not changed in at least four years.

Do you seriously believe S&W just tested those few brands? They didn't begin to touch all the brands on the market at the time those additions were made to the manual.

Believe what you want; Users here have shot everything on the so-called "do not recommend" list with performance pretty much equal to the results on the recommended list. None of it is going to damage the 15-22; it just may not function well.

Every single .22 LR is a law unto itself; some with digest anything you feed them (mine, for instance) and some are very picky (my match High Standard pistol). You shoot whatever you can get your hands on and see you your particular firearm likes it.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I don't know what S&W did or did not test, but during the era of OOBs Rem GB was the culprit in a great many. Now I don't know if that was due to the popularity of GB or not, but it was what it was. My guess is that tons of folks continue to use GB with their 15-22 but we rarely see anyone posting about an OOB anymore. So that pretty well answers that. I don't worry about it.

S&W is a great company but I would not hang on their every word. The 15-22 used to be advertised as having a "Match Grade Precision Barrel".

 

[azcabal]

GB is the only ammo i've ever had issues with. doesn't matter if it's the sig 1911-22, 15-22 or ruger 22/45. it's been a few years since i shot it, so i can't remember if it was FTE or FTF, but it got annoying enough that i swore i'll never buy more (and that's one of a very few times i haven't gone back on my word - even in these desperate ammo times!)

i'm no bullet snob, but it's not for me. plus, after shooting a brick, my hands are all sparkly gold like i was at a rave party the night before...

 

[BlueOvalBandit]

I love it when "armchair engineers" think they know better than the folks who design them.

Not an armchair engineer by any stretch of the imagination. Just a shooter who have been shooting longer than a good percentage of the people on this forum have been alive.

I long ago lost track of how much ammo I have sent downrange in the last 50 years, but it's probably well north of a couple of million rounds. I guess that gives me some expertise on the subject of what's real and what's legal, CYA, verbiage.

I am actually a mechanical engineer and Majorlk is right. It's just legal CYA from long ago when OOB firings were prevalent.

Back on topic, I have run several thousand GBs without a hitch. Out of all of them only had a few failure to fires and one that made an off sound, barrel was clear and I continued blasting away. I've had less problems with GBs than Winchester bulk, which for comparison had a few more (but not much more) failure to fires.

For reference all my GBs are of recent make from the last year or 2.

 

[cxwrench]

I am not one who shoots 20 rounds and says, Yeah, it looks close enough.

I'm not either. Usually more like 5...

 

[cyphertext]

I'm not either. Usually more like 5...

sometimes only 2!

 

[Rundover]

Times are tough and I say just shoot what you can find because if you are limiting your ammo choices you are limiting your fun quota.

 

[dannybot]

I have had feed issues with them in my 15-22. My wife uses them in her MK III without issue though.

Occasionally she'll empty her mags into my ammo box, and I wind up up getting a stray GB mixed up in my mags. The blunted nose of the Rem HP gets caught on the feed ramp of the 15-22.

 

[Majorlk]

I have had feed issues with them in my 15-22. My wife uses them in her MK III without issue though.

Occasionally she'll empty her mags into my ammo box, and I wind up up getting a stray GB mixed up in my mags. The blunted nose of the Rem HP gets caught on the feed ramp of the 15-22.

Good reason to keep the feed ramp clean.

Seriously, polish the feed ramp and that problem will go away. The factory finish looks smooth, but really isn't.

 

[GerryB]

Major, how would you recommend I polish the feed ramp? I have a Dremel tool. Maybe some kind of polishing compound and the right wheel? Maybe a Cratex stick? It's just a bear of angle to get to it...

 

[Majorlk]

Major, how would you recommend I polish the feed ramp? I have a Dremel tool. Maybe some kind of polishing compound and the right wheel? Maybe a Cratex stick? It's just a bear of angle to get to it...

Yea, without removing the barrel from the upper, it is somewhat of a dog to work on.

I used a cone (tapered?) felt dremel tip and some Flitz polish. It really doesn't take more than a minute or so to do the polishing. Another possibility is the smallest wheel in your kit. That works, too.