Negligent Discharge - Happens in an instant!

[TexasArmed]

Yep, I've stopped dry firing at home...

I got two more ND I know about too, one with a man I grew up around who was an old country boy and another that was the same age. Both those ND's happened with Shotguns. In all the years I hunted with one of them it never happened.
One of them set a shotgun down on the floor with it loaded and
his hand over the barrel. He lost his arm.

The other happened after I left home, he was hunting in the
woods crossing a fence and somehow shot his arm off when
the shotgun fell as he was crossing the fence.

Us old country boys never dry fired, but it happened to some
old country boys too.

 

[LVSteve]

I knew texting and driving was hazardous, but it seems texting and gun cleaning is worse.

 

[kbm6893]

March 20, 1994. Watching TV and dry firing my issued Glock 19. Guess I was still fascinated with it after going from a revolver. Had loaded mag out of gun behind me as I racked the slide and pulled the trigger. I remember getting tired of it so I put the mag back in and left the gun to the side. About a half hour later, I picked it up again and racked the slide. In that one second I distinctly remember registering the different sound the gun made as it chambered a round, but it didn't click why it was different. BAMMM! Shot went through the bedroom wall and into the bathroom behind the room. Thankfully exited at the air vent so it just bent the metal vent rather then blow out a tile. Hit the toilet and water everywhere. Thankfully nobody sitting on it! Empty shell did not eject. I remember being stunned and clearing the gun and the casing popping out. I was watching Quantum Leap on tv. I remember the episode and the exact point of the episode that I happened.


I was wrong and I was unsafe. And everytime I pick up a gun that moment flashes before my eyes. Which is why in semi autos I prefer a S&W third gen. Manual safety and mag disconnect are OK in my book. We are ALL human.

 

[kbm6893]

On Gun and Shield Day, the day recruits about to graduate get their guns and shields, a 20 year veteran firearm instructor took to the stage and pointed at the 1200 recruits. He said "which one of you will it be?" Every graduating class has the one idiot who was playing with his newly issued gun and let's a round go. I'm sure it's more then one since nobody is calling the cops for a non injury incident. The instructor, who is used to carrying a red barrel non- functional weapon in that environment, must have forgotten he was carrying his duty weapon since everybody else was armed. He holstered and BAMM! Shot himself in the foot

Bill Jordan, legendary Marine and Border Patrolmen, and survivor of countless shootouts, shot and killed an officer with his Model 19 that he thought was empty. Shot through a wall and killed him

 

[boatboy]

I was getting ready for Deer season and sighting my muzzle loader and I went answered my phone,when I got done I couldnt rember if I loaded it. So I put a primer in and acted exactly like I was shooting it for sight in and BAM she went off
Yes I did Thank God I didnt double load it

I now leave my phone in the car when I shoot

Thanks for an honest reminder story
Hank

 

[RalphMP9FS]

Everyone, I mean everyone has a brain fart every now and then. I just don't understand why there are so many concealed carry forum members that won't concede that there's an elevated risk for a ND when carrying a hot semi auto that doesn't have a manual safety or at least a DA pull. Must be arrogance I guess.

 

[kbm6893]

Everyone, I mean everyone has a brain fart every now and then. I just don't understand why there are so many concealed carry forum members that won't concede that there's an elevated risk for a ND when carrying a hot semi auto that doesn't have a manual safety or at least a DA pull. Must be arrogance I guess.

They're just gonna repeat the same mantra. "my safety is between my ears" and "keep your booger hook off the trigger until you're ready to fire". Guess Bill Jordan missed that memo in his years of shooting and actual shootouts.

 

[Old cop]

It happened to me a couple of years ago, no one hurt but it really scared me. It was a 1911 style 9MM that had the mag out and I was "testing" the trigger while on the way to my basement to work on the thing.

There is a site about ND that I've bookmarked and I visit it fairly often, http://negligentdischarge.com That person was seriously injured and posted every step of his recovery w/photos. It's cured my desire for another race gun.

 

[Pef]

640 pro with .357 mag 125 gr Speer Gold dots. March 16, 2013. In a gun safe closet, with about 0 db sound attenuation. Nobody was injured, fortunately, unless you count high frequency cillia hairs in my cocleas - I am sure they are laid flat like so many timbers after the Tunguska event. Instant tinnitus that will be with me until the day my brain stops firing.

But the lemonade from the lemons - the slight ringing is a constant reminder of the four rules of gun safety, especially the one about the finger on the trigger.

AZ_M&P, live and learn. Glad you brought this up, too, reminders are important.

 

[Rick_A]

I have killed a pane of glass due to a ND.

Similar situation. ..checking out the trigger of a revolver after some work. Took a nap, forgot the snap caps had been swapped for carry ammo, and BAM!

 

[Hodgin]

Snap caps for dry firing would help minimize the chances of that type of ND.

I had a ND when I was about 12-13 yrs old. It was with a semi-auto shotgun while shooting trap. My dad, a friend of his, and I were shooting. My dad was behind me and the friend was in the trap house. The friend needed to do some housecleaning, opening new box of clays or clearing out some broken ones, and told me to wait. I didn't put the gun back on safety and must have had my finger on the trigger as I supported the gun on my thigh. When I put it on my thigh it went off. Luckily it was pointed at about a 45 degree or so angle.

Other than a sore thigh and a lot of verbal abuse I made it. Fortunately, that experience may have prevented a more serious ND on down the road. If I ever have another one (at my age), my gun slinging days are over.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Everyone, I mean everyone has a brain fart every now and then. I just don't understand why there are so many concealed carry forum members that won't concede that there's an elevated risk for a ND when carrying a hot semi auto that doesn't have a manual safety or at least a DA pull. Must be arrogance I guess.

This is a cop out. Gun type doesn't matter. Observe the rules 100% of the time and ND's won't happen.

Elevated risk comes from not paying attention to what you're doing.

I do NOT believe that everyone will have an ND.

 

[Krogen]

Hi, My name is Krogen and I've had a negligent discharge. You are not alone and I respect you for 'fessing up. We can all learn from others' hard lessons. Following the NRA's or Cooper's well-known sets of safety rules can mitigate the effects of an accident when or if something goes wrong.

In my case it was a Contender in .357 Herrett. I was standing at the firing line talking to a buddy. I was holding the gun pointed downrange. It was open and empty. As we got ready to resume firing, I absentmindedly thumbed back the hammer. Upon commence fire, I dropped a round in and snapped the action shut. The jarring dropped the hammer and a bullet sailed downrange. Cooper's rule #2 saved the day. I was never able to get the gun to drop its hammer (on an empty chamber) that way again. I have no idea what happened, but I do know two malfunctions occurred; the sear and my brain. It can and does happen, folks. Just be sure to follow all four rules and we'll all go home at the end of the day.

 

[Protected One]

It happened to me a couple of years ago, no one hurt but it really scared me. It was a 1911 style 9MM that had the mag out and I was "testing" the trigger while on the way to my basement to work on the thing.

There is a site about ND that I've bookmarked and I visit it fairly often, Negligent, not accidental discharge and the resulting gunshot wounds That person was seriously injured and posted every step of his recovery w/photos. It's cured my desire for another race gun.

What is a race gun?

 

[kbm6893]

This is a cop out. Gun type doesn't matter. Observe the rules 100% of the time and ND's won't happen.

Elevated risk comes from not paying attention to what you're doing.

I do NOT believe that everyone will have an ND.

Depends. If you're a casual gun owner who shoots a box a year it's unlikely simply because the gun is rarely out. Bill Jordan had one and killed a guy. Over a dozen on a gun forum, who are not virgins when it comes to guns have. You think you can't? Arrogance is the gun owners worst enemy

 

[kbm6893]

This is a cop out. Gun type doesn't matter. Observe the rules 100% of the time and ND's won't happen.

Elevated risk comes from not paying attention to what you're doing.

I do NOT believe that everyone will have an ND.

And he was stating a gun with no safety or at least a DA trigger raise the odds. That's all. And they do

 

[g8rb8]

Thanks for reinforcing the importance of "THE 4 RULES." I do not think they can be reinforced enough.

I was invited to an estate sale because I knew the family and they had firearms and knew I would be interested. There were about 4 adults and one child in the basement with the firearms. I was advised by a well known trustworthy adult that all the guns were unloaded. I was immediately drawn to a beautiful little semi-auto. I picked it up, started ogling it, and within a couple of seconds realized I was being distracted by it and reminded myself of the 4 rules. Fortunately, by habit, I had not been pointing it near any person and I had kept my finger off the trigger. There was a round in the chamber and the safety was not engaged.

Many of us take for granted everyone knows the 4 rules but in case someone newer to shooting reads this post I want to restate them:
1. EVERY GUN SHOULD BE TREATED AS IF IT IS ALWAYS LOADED.
2. NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT ANYTHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO DESTROY OR KEEP IT ALWAYS POINTED DOWNRANGE.
3. KNOW WHAT IS BEYOND YOUR TARGET.
4. KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER AT ALL TIMES UNTIL THE FIREARM IS ON TARGET AND YOU ARE READY TO SHOOT.

A fifth rule for me is to avoid being distracted by shiny objects.

John
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training

 

[Kanewpadle]

Depends. If you're a casual gun owner who shoots a box a year it's unlikely simply because the gun is rarely out. Bill Jordan had one and killed a guy. Over a dozen on a gun forum, who are not virgins when it comes to guns have. You think you can't? Arrogance is the gun owners worst enemy

I disagree. And it always seems that those that have had one make excuses. I don't buy it.

There is simply no reason to put your finger on the trigger without first checking the gun. No reason.

There are times when we make mistakes both big and small. But when handling a gun, mistakes don't need to happen. It's unacceptable.

This is the mindset that people should have when handling guns. Not wait until you have one and then get serious about it.

 

[kbm6893]

I disagree. And it always seems that those that have had one make excuses. I don't buy it.

There is simply no reason to put your finger on the trigger without first checking the gun. No reason.

There are times when we make mistakes both big and small. But when handling a gun, mistakes don't need to happen. It's unacceptable.

This is the mindset that people should have when handling guns. Not wait until you have one and then get serious about it.

They taught he same thing to us when crossing the street. How many people get hit every year?

You prove me point. You say accidents "should" never happen. But you ignore the human factor. And you are not immune to it even though you are so sure you are

 

[vytoland]

firearms and texting DONT mix................