Bug Out Facts, Fables and Fairy Tales.

Joined
Feb 5, 2013
Messages
4,720
Reaction score
29,619
Location
Northern Utah
Just got back in from my annual task of stringing electric fence wire around the vegetable garden to keep the raccoons out of the corn and happened to check out one of those survival forums.

It was pretty interesting, if not downright entertaining. I noticed that an awful lot of folks plan on "bugging out" to the country when the proverbial "ship hits the sand." I can certainly understand their feelings, but being an ol' guy who happens to live out in the country, I couldn't help but wonder...where in the heck do these people plan on going?

I may be wrong, but I think a lot of them see the "country" as that being portrayed in the old Shirley Temple movie, Rebecca of Sunny Brook Farm....where there's an endless bounty and everyone is eager to share all their produce, smoked hams, and homemade peach chutney.

Do they realize that the "country" just isn't out in the middle of nowhere, for the most part. I mean, we have neighbors, too...we just have a little more elbow room than those folks who live in urban areas. Also, the standard of living is usually a little bit lower in rural areas than in the major metropolitan areas. Many folks out here just don't have an endless supply of commodities they can just magnanimously dish out.

Do these people who are bugging out to the country just plan on squatting on someone's land without some repercussions? Let's face it, the folks in the country probably have had more experience in dealing with trespassers than these urban folks have had in breaking the law.

If, by some chance, they do find some land they can squat on, and manage to plant their garden and raise a few animals, how do they plan on getting water? To those in urban areas, they probably don't give that much thought. They just turn on the tap and Presto!!!...water comes out.

In the West and Southwest, it's a different story. You have water shares. That's right...shares. That means you own so much water. And, to throw another wrench in the works, you just can't go out any time you want and turn on the water to water your fields, crops, gardens, animals, etc. Nope...you have to wait your turn, and sometimes your turn (which might only be an hour long) might come every other week at two o'clock in the morning. And there's a designated water master who has the job of patrolling to make sure everybody plays fair.

It doesn't matter if the creek runs right through your property or not. If you're caught diverting that creek water onto your crops during an unscheduled time, you're in a heap of trouble...up to $5,000 for the first offense. You think I'm kidding? People have gotten themselves killed over water rights, and fairly recently, too. Can everybody say, "drought"?

So, if by some chance, these folks find a quaint little spot with a creek running through it, and figure the creek is their emergency water supply, they might find themselves facing a bunch of angry country boys with guns.

Anyway...sorry to ramble on with this rant. I just found some of their remarks rather amusing. Oh well, enough of this and let's just hope we'll never have to face such catastrophes.
 
Last edited:
Register to hide this ad
I suspect some of the more serious folks have specific locations in mind which may be uninhabited or perhaps they own (possibly collectively) a patch of land somewhere. I also suspect that many more have a plan more along the lines of 1. Get out of Dodge, 2. figure the rest out along the way.
I mentioned to my sister one day that we would bug out to her 40 acres (or 30 or whatever it is) - I was a bit surprised when she said she would bug out of there. When I asked, her reason was a nearby nuclear power plant. Of course, not all EOTWAWKI scenarios involved attacks on or failure of nuclear plants.
 
"The country" is someplace you drive your convertible or motorcycle through on sunny Sunday afternoons to get ice cream and not someplace you "bug out" to. Even in times of (relative) calm our boundaries are being encroached upon. So I often wonder if we'll be some sort of destination in times of distress. I don't think I have anything overly attractive at my place to the fleeing masses. but that won't stop me from defending it.

If circumstances arise that make me fearful for the health and well-being of my family and it is possible, We're stayin' put. That means unless you are family or friend, you're a trespasser. And again, if circumstances dictate, being a squater in my yard may not be a plausible or wise destination.
 
Well, there are some who are hardcore, many who are not. Some have locations already in mind, as was mentioned above, many have no clue what it would take to live in a SHTF (or better yet, TEOTWAWKI) without resources. Most think it will be like a picnic. For the most part, the skill sets needed for living off the land don't exist anymore, except for a few people.

BTW, check out Dave Canterbury's videos on YouTube. IMO, he is very knowledgeable and practical.
 
Mule Packer and others. I agree, being a "Bug out" is one thing. Being a survivalist is another. Knowing how to plant a potato and store it, or taking small game or fish and knowing how to preserve them....for any length of time. That's what most of the bug out folks are not going to have a clue.

There's a whole lot more to being able to survive too, than just eating.

Oh well, what do I know. I guess I'll worry about it when the time comes. (Which I really don't think it will)


WuzzFuzz
 
I own a fairly good sized piece of property far out in the country, and to some, it would be the perfect "bug out place". I'm a country boy, a hunter, and a camper. I wouldn't fare any better out there, than staying close to a city. Living off the land is just a modern day pipe dream to all but the most experienced survivalists.
 
Not a survivalist BUT!
As a person that lives out in the boonies and is sort of prepared for many different scenarios let me add. People that live in these areas know each other well, they hunt and fish together they help each other out year around, you "buggers" are outsiders and that is the way most people will consider you.

For me being prepared is a year around thing as we get extremely bad weather mostly in the winter and having necessary supplies around to be self sufficient for a long time is mandatory. Necessary includes lots of stored food, gas /generator (assuming a Atomic blast does not fry electronics) and plenty of wood for fire and a couple streams on property.

O as this is a gun forum very well prepared in that department.:D

In a real bad SHTF incident hopefully my two sons and their kids can make it up here, they will be welcomed, and others depending on how they act will be treated as needed!
 
Fresh Peach Chutney

ingredients
1/2 cup cider vinegar
1/2 cup loosely packed brown sugar
1/2 cup white sugar
1 large sweet red pepper, seeded, diced 1/4 inch, about 1/2 cup
1 small white onion, peeled and diced, about 1/2 cup
1 small jalapeño pepper, seeded and diced, 2 tablespoons
1/3 cup white raisins
1 tablespoon finely chopped garlic
1 tablespoon grated ginger
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 pounds firm, fresh peaches, blanched to remove the skin, pit removed, sliced into wedges
preparation

Put the vinegar and both sugars into a non-reactive pot, place over medium heat and bring to a boil. Add the red pepper, onion, jalapeño, raisins, garlic, ginger, salt and simmer 10 minutes. Add the peach segments and simmer an additional 5-10 minutes. If the peaches are still firm allow to cook several minutes more. If you would like the syrup thicker you may also allow to cook for a minute or two to reduce liquid.

Remove from the heat and allow to cool for 15 minutes in the pot. Serve at room temperature. Transfer all excess to a clean container and refrigerate, covered, for up to one week.
 
Caj...does your receipt make you a prepper, or a survivalist then?:D:D:D Looks like you could go either way.......


WuzzFuzz
 
My impression of most preppers is that they have very little experience in roughing it and would head back to civilization within a week or two unless it was winter which would kill them fairly fast [emoji57]

ive lived both rural and urban, and probably would fare a good bit better than most in a bug out.
That said, Id rather not bug out.
I'd rather invite some of the good old boys out for the looter shoot, which would offer me a chance to catch some shut eye.
break out of the looter shoot in rotations for some good old headlight hunting and make a good fun week of it.
 
I've read similar threads on gun forums for quite some time now.

They are usually entertaining. The only commonality the bugout folks share seems to be that they've all seen the movie "Red Dawn."

If something like that happens, I'll stay here and collect the supplies they are able to carry on their back on their way here.:D
 
I'm bugging in.

Like the old saying, I do t have to be faster than the bear, just faster than YOU! ;-)

My home will be a hard target and looters will be dealt with... They'll get the message and go to a softer target, like the anti's that live down my street.
 
I agree with what most have said. I have a bug out bag and my thought of bugging out is going to be driven natural events, hurricanes, tornadoes, bad ice storms....and the like. My bags, I have 2 to keep them light, have a couple of days worth of food and water, a few medical things, some fresh underwear and cleanup stuff. Just the basic things you will need to exist for a couple of days until you can return or find somewhere to stay.

Now if the world is going to **** I think I'll be staying home. I know my homebase and surrounding area very well. Been living here 20 plus years. I know a lot of my neighbors and if things get bad for an extended amount of time it's going to take a group effort to survive. I can't guard the fence 24 hours a day. How many of my neighbors are prepared? A hopeful wish would be 25% to 30%.

I don't see how any one person or family can survive alone for an extended amount of time. Some how you have to gather food, cook it, sleep and protect. And I think protect is the big one. Where there is smoke there is food and there will be plenty of customers at your door.
 
Well, first off to only plan for bugging out or only planning to bug in is a prep fail, you need to prep for both.
I've known two families who had to bug out of their homes because they were on fire. "I'm bugging in" would be a fail there. People in New Orleans bugged out without any place to go but bugging out was still a better option then drowning.
I have farm land in WV and live in Ohio. If the situation were bad enough that I had to leave my home here and cant just crash in a hotel or park the camper somewhere then the land in WV is the destination.
I've also bugged in through storms and power outages.
I plan for either and practice both.
 
The country........I'm already here ;):D



As the rich old rancher brag'd to his neighbors at Sunday dinner one time,
"I been raisin beef for seventy years and I never even tasted not one of my own beef steaks!"

The neighbor's wife blurted out, "Well ya have now!"


I don't know what that has to do with 'Buggin Out'

I just like the story! :D


.
 
Last edited:

Latest posts

Back
Top