Bug Out Facts, Fables and Fairy Tales.

Not a survivalist BUT!
As a person that lives out in the boonies and is sort of prepared for many different scenarios let me add. People that live in these areas know each other well, they hunt and fish together they help each other out year around, you "buggers" are outsiders and that is the way most people will consider you.

For me being prepared is a year around thing as we get extremely bad weather mostly in the winter and having necessary supplies around to be self sufficient for a long time is mandatory. Necessary includes lots of stored food, gas /generator (assuming a Atomic blast does not fry electronics) and plenty of wood for fire and a couple streams on property.

O as this is a gun forum very well prepared in that department.:D

In a real bad SHTF incident hopefully my two sons and their kids can make it up here, they will be welcomed, and others depending on how they act will be treated as needed!
Pretty much the same thing here in small town West Virginia.
We've got a month or so of supplies, a generator and gas.
There's a river within walking distance and we have a hand operated water purifier.
We've been snowed in, lost power for a week or so and rode it out.
 
I feel the same as mulepacker. I as well live a hundred miles from the city, and am backed up to national forest. I so often hear people say they are "goin to the mountains" and planning on living on fish and deer. Without refrigeration you could only get about 5 days of eats from a deer or elk. Wont be long before they become scarcer than an honest used car dealer. Water will be the killer. There aren't limitless streams and rivers. If you ever experienced beaver fever you wont ever drink from a creek again. My best advise would be to stay put and start preparing for an extended stay at home. A scoped high power air gun would be priceless in the city, where pigeons, stray cats and various cridders could supplement your food rations.
 
Ματθιας;138090766 said:
Too all the people who think they can live off the land, Good Luck!!

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What he said. BTW... Ματθιας... your name sure is hard to pronounce. (No offence meant... but that's the first letter "c" I ever saw that has a man-gland hangin' down off'n it.)

This is the danger... when folks with hungry kids get desperate to feed 'em... they gonna risk all safety to get that food. As a matter of fact... some are gonna do awful and heinous stuff that they would not even consider durin' normal times.

At all costs... they're gonna feed them kids.
 
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What he said. BTW... Ματθιας... your name sure is hard to pronounce. (No offence meant... but that's the first letter "c" I ever saw that has a man-gland hangin' down off'n it.)

This is the danger... when folks with hungry kids get desperate to feed 'em... they gonna risk all safety to get that food. As a matter of fact... some are gonna do awful and heinous stuff that they would not even consider durin' normal times.

At all costs... they're gonna feed them kids.
LOL! His keyboard must look different than mine.:D
 
I live out in the country, and it's still 30 miles maybe from any city and less tow large town. But I wouldn't suggest bugging out to my part of the country. We all got land, fences, and quite frankly everyone in the house has a hunting rifle, shotgun and handgun at the very east and we'uns are used to shooting squatters or trespassers. Folks around here don't have a lot but they do have amo and usually a tractor to burry the bodies.


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Be prepared yep, have a plan yep, have some supplies yep BUT most people in a lot of the US will have to at some point deal with a major interstate highway to go on or get across or away from when they are bugging out. You can bet you bippi that the other 50,000 people bugging will be bugging the same direction.

So you better be listen to the news or radio and be way in front of the curve on this one. In fact you better be already bugged! before the masses hit the road.

Vehicle of choice for bug out...dump truck/snow plow with the blade down. Just my economy inflated .02 worth.
 
Well when you figure there are around 300 million people in this country and maybe a quarter of them really try to "bug out" that's going to be in excess of 70 million people. Now I don't know how many mountains there are exactly but there's gonna be a lot of people in those mountains.

It won't take long for all the game to be killed off so I don't know what they're gonna eat. And if you check the streams a lot of them are now carrying some sort of pollutants and that will make most of the buggers sick or even dead. Not to mention all the fights and killing over the water.

And then you have to think about what the reason is for bugging out to start with. If we've been invaded, by terrorists or aliens from space or whatever, do you really think they're not gonna hunt you down?

Well I think I'll just stay close to home and shootem till the ammo runs out and then we'll see what happens.
 
Chip, you have to remember that these hardcore preppers and bug out folks are living in their own deluded little corner of reality. I don't know if they think they are going to be welcomed with open arms, or if they mistakenly believe that they can just role in a take whatever they want. I spent enough time in the semi-rural western U.S. to know that the latter is not going to happen. Those folks been taking care of business for 100's of years.
As for myself the only place I'm bugging out to is my home. We've accumulated enough supplies to get us by for a time, and more than enough ammo to get by.
I have a feeling I'm like you and many here. If you need something and I can share it I will. But in a "bug out" situation, try and take something that my family HAS to have and one of us is going to die.

P.s. I'm convinced that so many prepper experts are only interested in making a fast buck on folks fear. Remember all the Y2K sales experts?
 
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I say 50% of the city folks who go to the forest will die right at the wood line. The coyote's will make out jut fine.

Oh, that is a very conservative estimate.
Six years ago, this country boy moved to the city, and married a city girl.
It's been an interesting 6 years, with several moments where the self sufficient country boy ways put an end to the crisis.
City folk tend to call a professional, even over the most trivial of matters.
The country way is to crack it open and have a look.
Last time in the clutch, I had the heat pump diagnosed, repaired and in its pre start standby mode by the time the HVAC guy showed up.
I had him check the refrigerant while I put the covers back on.
If they can't solve a problem more complex than dead batteries in a TV remote, they will start dieing a quarter mile past the city limits.
 
Someone asked me my definition of a big city once. I told them that it is where the well off buy school clothes. In Lima, MT they go to Dillon, Dillon goes to Butte, Butte goes to Missoula, Missoula goes to Spokane, Spokane goes to Seattle, Seattle goes to San Francisco, SF goes to Hong Kong. If you take each step up in population as the "big city" then one step down is where the city folks want to bug out to. They will be surprised at what they find.
 
Mule Packer brought up a point that has always bugged me. If you look at the prepper boards or worse, the companies that sell "survival supplies" they almost always recommend having things like 50lb bags of rice or dried beans or the ever popular buckets with 90 days of dehydrated food. I see this and think just where do you plan to get all this needed water from? :confused:
In a real SHTF scenario potable water will very quickly become one of the most precious, desired and needed commodities to be found. I'll wager to guess that a large number of deaths will be from dehydration and/or drinking bad water.

Another item that always makes me laugh are the people who say "I have a gun and I'll just take what I need". Guess what dummy, many of us are better armed, better shots and better trained than you. We'll be happy to add your weapons to our supply when we take them off your dead body.

In all honesty, if TEOTWAWKI should happen, I will probably wind up dead. I want to believe I'll last a lot longer than most and I'll go down fighting. More likely, I'll be murdered when I have to sleep.
 
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