Bug Out Facts, Fables and Fairy Tales.

Wasn't there a movie about some plague that wiped out most of civilization and the main character had to take his family and escape from Los Angeles?

They ended up in some little town in Idaho and the father died from an infected paper cut.
 
I live in the country and plan on staying here. The only ones welcome here are family and tell them don't worry so much about guns but bring as much food as you can.
My problem would be water.......too much of it. Without a sump pump my basement would start getting water. I could use it for flushing toilets and my battery backup sump pump would last as long as my batteries hold up. I've been talking about adding solar to them and should do that one day.
I've thought about parents with kids that would come begging and get mean when hungry enough. I'd probably feed the kids something and turn them away. Looters would be another thing. Problem is they wouldn't show up wearing a looter sign either. Hardcore from the city would probably try and BS you first then kill you. Sorting out who is who would be the problem. Maybe rejecting all would be best policy.
nah .. the looters will be easier than you think.
They already are part of the criminal element and have taken up home invasion as a primary means of procurement.
if it's working for em now, why change?
 
I'm pretty sure I could bug out and wander around lost in the woods for a day before I collapsed.

For me, thats it in a nutshell. I can do all the fancy woodcraft, and probably be a fair to great hunter gatherer. I could probably wander around un-supervised for a long time.

But not if I had to provide for anyone else. (Wives, children, grandchildren, close friends etc.) That requires a base, and group cooperation.
 
Being prepared and staying where you are rather than bugging out might be, in some instances, the better solution.

We recently watched the movie Goodbye World and were disappointed at first. But then we thought about it and it might be not that far from what we could face in the near future... who knows?!
 
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Some people take this stuff seriously. I have seen several of these on my trail rides.

We all have many times over what we REALLY need to survive. Look at your stuff. Most of us older people have pills that we are told we cant live without. With prescriptions you cant rathole too much. Illegal drugs are probley easier to get! Gas lasts only so long. I am reminded of a old cartoon that showed the last solider alive. He is standing in the middle of ashs far as you could see on the planet, smiling and gloating saying, I won!
Want to spend the remainder of your life in that world? Its fun to think about though.
 
I've considered it and if things go down that way then I am hosed. My wife does not drive and works in a direction away from home. So I would have to fight my way to her, rendesvous, and then fight our way home. Not a good scenario.

The above will be the first and one of the largest challenges many of will face; total panic and gridlock. My biggest SHTF prep is having the ability to get to my wife and then getting us home SAFELY. I believe I've done a decent job of this.

Remember the best laid plans, generally go SOUTH, the second the first shot is fired.
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It may be a cliche, but instead of spending so much effort and treasure working out how to be violent and fight it, how about working for peace and cooperation?
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Great idea, one I think most of us are MORE than willing to aim for. Yet everyone of us has to remember that not everyone will be in tune with that, and sadly more than a few will believe it is ok to take what they want.
 
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I doubt the city folk understand the take care of your own attitude we have.
Read Mel Tappan's books from the 70 and 80s for some interesting history.

My God Son was in the mix during Katina in Mississippi. He and some locals were armed on horseback keeping the peace in his neck of the woods. CELL PHONES were kaput for much of the time.

I really don't want or need nor will tolerate an invasion.
An old friend once remarked," I know where I'm going for food if I ever need it." The guy was a teacher with 2x incomes.
I told him he would be welcome to ask. Take any and he would be feeding my dog.
I left the east coast in 76 to avoid the mentality of city folks.
I don't miss it.

Some times the welcome mat is not down for strangers.
Oh ZOMBIES TOO :)

In times of trouble ya best have a plan and share the information with those who will be impacted.
Lord knows what it is like deer season with all the yuppies heading north.

yeah I know the general area your from, I was raised there.
Its certain death for virtually any outsider without strong connections to the area.
This is a given anywhere, However, Behind the cheddar curtain, its a whole new level.
On the WI tundra, you have 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad sledding.
During those three months of bad sledding, efforts are geared towards preparations, and reparations for the return of good sledding.
Also, economically, it is first to pay for bad times, last to play in good times.
Keep this in mind. even if it is the bad sledding season, they know they can ill afford to part with anything at all. They are earning their survival year after year.
Its hard work and not a whole heck of a lot of time to do it.
If you have not invested any sweat equity into it, you are not going to make it. Don't even try any of that new age entitlement mentality stuff on the Wi Tundra. Its a threat to their survival in good times leave alone times that might drive you there.
Give those folks some time and they'll figure out what to do with your corpse.
fertilizer feed or food, don't expect a hug from anything other than the arms of death and the dirt shirt.
I killed more than a few deer up that way as an act of mercy.
when an indigenous species has trouble, you have no chance at all.
 
Fact is, if "civilization" ceased at the end of business today, Darwin's law would go into effect immediately. Some of us would fare better than others, for differing lengths of time. In 5 years life would resemble the stone age with concomitant reality extant. Myself, I'm stocking up on "Positive Waves." Joe
 
Gas stations....

Be prepared yep, have a plan yep, have some supplies yep BUT most people in a lot of the US will have to at some point deal with a major interstate highway to go on or get across or away from when they are bugging out. You can bet you bippi that the other 50,000 people bugging will be bugging the same direction.

So you better be listen to the news or radio and be way in front of the curve on this one. In fact you better be already bugged! before the masses hit the road.

Vehicle of choice for bug out...dump truck/snow plow with the blade down. Just my economy inflated .02 worth.

If it's a situation where everybody bugs out at once, don't expect to get too far stuck in traffic for hours. Gas and lodging would be scarce or none. We had to bug out from the threat of a hurricane. The last one was awful and a lot of people bugged out. We felt more like refugees than survivors, that's for sure. The only way I would bug out is if there were impending danger to us in our home.
 
I watched evacuees from a hurricane not so many years ago pile into hotels as far north as Missouri. An LEO friend in Little Rock told of the gangs that started breaking into cars on hotel parking lots. Anything with LA or TX plates was a target, figuring the families had brought all the valuables. They rounded up a few dozen suspects, but recovered very little.

There was all the news of highways blocked with people running out of gas when Houston evacuated.

Anyone remember trying to get out of the big cities once the 9/11 situation became recognized as an attack? Looking down on a major freeway from an office building window, you could see there was no hope to move a car in the city I was visiting, much less actually get home. I stopped at a WalMart on the way to the hotel to grab a box of .45, as I only had 2 mags with me. Counter guy already had stories of fights over how much ammo people could buy. He had a couple stashed under the counter for people who were polite. Guess I was, as he pulled out one for me. But it was not a good feeling to look out at blocked traffic even late in the evening, and wonder what it might take to get home.
 
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