Watch Robin Williams "The Survivors". It'll teach you everything you need to know.
Bug Out Facts, Fables and Fairy Tales.
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Wasn't there a movie about some plague that wiped out most of civilization and the main character had to take his family and escape from Los Angeles?
They ended up in some little town in Idaho and the father died from an infected paper cut.
They ended up in some little town in Idaho and the father died from an infected paper cut.
venomballistics
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nah .. the looters will be easier than you think.
They already are part of the criminal element and have taken up home invasion as a primary means of procurement.
if it's working for em now, why change?
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I'm pretty sure I could bug out and wander around lost in the woods for a day before I collapsed.
jlrhiner
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For me, thats it in a nutshell. I can do all the fancy woodcraft, and probably be a fair to great hunter gatherer. I could probably wander around un-supervised for a long time.
But not if I had to provide for anyone else. (Wives, children, grandchildren, close friends etc.) That requires a base, and group cooperation.
68lemans462
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Preppers... 
JJEH
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Being prepared and staying where you are rather than bugging out might be, in some instances, the better solution.
We recently watched the movie Goodbye World and were disappointed at first. But then we thought about it and it might be not that far from what we could face in the near future... who knows?!
We recently watched the movie Goodbye World and were disappointed at first. But then we thought about it and it might be not that far from what we could face in the near future... who knows?!
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This thread is making me hungry and Ive picked 10 gallons of apples this morning,roasted a couple pounds of chilies yesterday.Im thinkin apple pie with some bite [emoji28]
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Some people take this stuff seriously. I have seen several of these on my trail rides.
We all have many times over what we REALLY need to survive. Look at your stuff. Most of us older people have pills that we are told we cant live without. With prescriptions you cant rathole too much. Illegal drugs are probley easier to get! Gas lasts only so long. I am reminded of a old cartoon that showed the last solider alive. He is standing in the middle of ashs far as you could see on the planet, smiling and gloating saying, I won!
Want to spend the remainder of your life in that world? Its fun to think about though.
We all have many times over what we REALLY need to survive. Look at your stuff. Most of us older people have pills that we are told we cant live without. With prescriptions you cant rathole too much. Illegal drugs are probley easier to get! Gas lasts only so long. I am reminded of a old cartoon that showed the last solider alive. He is standing in the middle of ashs far as you could see on the planet, smiling and gloating saying, I won!
Want to spend the remainder of your life in that world? Its fun to think about though.
The above will be the first and one of the largest challenges many of will face; total panic and gridlock. My biggest SHTF prep is having the ability to get to my wife and then getting us home SAFELY. I believe I've done a decent job of this.
Remember the best laid plans, generally go SOUTH, the second the first shot is fired.
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Great idea, one I think most of us are MORE than willing to aim for. Yet everyone of us has to remember that not everyone will be in tune with that, and sadly more than a few will believe it is ok to take what they want.
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venomballistics
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I doubt the city folk understand the take care of your own attitude we have.
Read Mel Tappan's books from the 70 and 80s for some interesting history.
My God Son was in the mix during Katina in Mississippi. He and some locals were armed on horseback keeping the peace in his neck of the woods. CELL PHONES were kaput for much of the time.
I really don't want or need nor will tolerate an invasion.
An old friend once remarked," I know where I'm going for food if I ever need it." The guy was a teacher with 2x incomes.
I told him he would be welcome to ask. Take any and he would be feeding my dog.
I left the east coast in 76 to avoid the mentality of city folks.
I don't miss it.
Some times the welcome mat is not down for strangers.
Oh ZOMBIES TOO
In times of trouble ya best have a plan and share the information with those who will be impacted.
Lord knows what it is like deer season with all the yuppies heading north.
yeah I know the general area your from, I was raised there.
Its certain death for virtually any outsider without strong connections to the area.
This is a given anywhere, However, Behind the cheddar curtain, its a whole new level.
On the WI tundra, you have 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad sledding.
During those three months of bad sledding, efforts are geared towards preparations, and reparations for the return of good sledding.
Also, economically, it is first to pay for bad times, last to play in good times.
Keep this in mind. even if it is the bad sledding season, they know they can ill afford to part with anything at all. They are earning their survival year after year.
Its hard work and not a whole heck of a lot of time to do it.
If you have not invested any sweat equity into it, you are not going to make it. Don't even try any of that new age entitlement mentality stuff on the Wi Tundra. Its a threat to their survival in good times leave alone times that might drive you there.
Give those folks some time and they'll figure out what to do with your corpse.
fertilizer feed or food, don't expect a hug from anything other than the arms of death and the dirt shirt.
I killed more than a few deer up that way as an act of mercy.
when an indigenous species has trouble, you have no chance at all.
Fact is, if "civilization" ceased at the end of business today, Darwin's law would go into effect immediately. Some of us would fare better than others, for differing lengths of time. In 5 years life would resemble the stone age with concomitant reality extant. Myself, I'm stocking up on "Positive Waves." Joe
City boy.
WuzzFuzz
Corncobs! An outhouse staple for decades They can do double duty first you eat the good stuf then later they can serve another vital function.
Gas stations....
If it's a situation where everybody bugs out at once, don't expect to get too far stuck in traffic for hours. Gas and lodging would be scarce or none. We had to bug out from the threat of a hurricane. The last one was awful and a lot of people bugged out. We felt more like refugees than survivors, that's for sure. The only way I would bug out is if there were impending danger to us in our home.
If it's a situation where everybody bugs out at once, don't expect to get too far stuck in traffic for hours. Gas and lodging would be scarce or none. We had to bug out from the threat of a hurricane. The last one was awful and a lot of people bugged out. We felt more like refugees than survivors, that's for sure. The only way I would bug out is if there were impending danger to us in our home.
gregintenn
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Not sure if it's the same thing, but there a weed around here that seems soft and comforting at the outset, but has a lingering effect similar to fiberglass insulation!City boy.
WuzzFuzz
I've warned my kids about this.
I watched evacuees from a hurricane not so many years ago pile into hotels as far north as Missouri. An LEO friend in Little Rock told of the gangs that started breaking into cars on hotel parking lots. Anything with LA or TX plates was a target, figuring the families had brought all the valuables. They rounded up a few dozen suspects, but recovered very little.
There was all the news of highways blocked with people running out of gas when Houston evacuated.
Anyone remember trying to get out of the big cities once the 9/11 situation became recognized as an attack? Looking down on a major freeway from an office building window, you could see there was no hope to move a car in the city I was visiting, much less actually get home. I stopped at a WalMart on the way to the hotel to grab a box of .45, as I only had 2 mags with me. Counter guy already had stories of fights over how much ammo people could buy. He had a couple stashed under the counter for people who were polite. Guess I was, as he pulled out one for me. But it was not a good feeling to look out at blocked traffic even late in the evening, and wonder what it might take to get home.
There was all the news of highways blocked with people running out of gas when Houston evacuated.
Anyone remember trying to get out of the big cities once the 9/11 situation became recognized as an attack? Looking down on a major freeway from an office building window, you could see there was no hope to move a car in the city I was visiting, much less actually get home. I stopped at a WalMart on the way to the hotel to grab a box of .45, as I only had 2 mags with me. Counter guy already had stories of fights over how much ammo people could buy. He had a couple stashed under the counter for people who were polite. Guess I was, as he pulled out one for me. But it was not a good feeling to look out at blocked traffic even late in the evening, and wonder what it might take to get home.
One apple cinnamon and one apple chili
Make sure you bug out on a full belly [emoji1]
Make sure you bug out on a full belly [emoji1]
cass
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There's a couple of things I've tried to express to my kids about leaving the city. One, most, or all the stores will be closed - they have families too - so having a full tank of gas and another full can is mandatory. Also, they have Google Earth maps printed up that clearly show all the little back roads to our property. The interstate, and any major highway is not where you want to be. Mostly, don't expect any help, or services along the way.
When hurricane Ike went through Cincinnati, I had no power for 3 days, some over a week. I had enough gas in my car to get out of the area so I stayed with a friend in Indianapolis. But I did have a little taste of the paranoia that can result, worrying if someone would steal my gas and leave me stranded. I do my grocery shopping on the weekend, when the hurricane hit I had no food prepared for the week. Staying put wasn't much of an option. I had no food, the restaurants were all closed.
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And everybody.....
And when you go 20 miles in about 4-6 hours people start piling out to pee and other things on the side of the road. Now that's roughing it.
And when you go 20 miles in about 4-6 hours people start piling out to pee and other things on the side of the road. Now that's roughing it.
Corncobs! An outhouse staple for decades They can do double duty first you eat the good stuf then later they can serve another vital function.
Only if you soak them first..Got to soft'n them up, don't you know?????
Also, young corn works best, or the smaller sweet corn, cobs..
Seriously, back when, the corn that was grown was not as large as it is today....Count the rows of corn on the cob, before the corn is stripped off the cob. All corn rows are even..8-10-12-14. maybe up to 24 rows on today's hybrid corn. But sweet corn is smaller rows, and early corn is better yet.
WuzzFuzz
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Besides the people who aren't prepared, the chronically ill and dependent on medical services and the elderly will suffer greatly
I have no choice but to bug in. My mom and dad are elderly and while mentally they are tough people, physically they are very frail. They both have health issues depend on meds to frankly keep them going like insulin and BP meds. Once those are gone the clock starts ticking. I wouldn't leave them to fend for themselves.
I have no choice but to bug in. My mom and dad are elderly and while mentally they are tough people, physically they are very frail. They both have health issues depend on meds to frankly keep them going like insulin and BP meds. Once those are gone the clock starts ticking. I wouldn't leave them to fend for themselves.
Not sure if it's the same thing, but there a weed around here that seems soft and comforting at the outset, but has a lingering effect similar to fiberglass insulation!
I've warned my kids about this.
It most likely is the same...Appears in early to mid spring, matures during the hotter summer months. The spring time is not so noxious, but the summer stuff.......better not, like you said.
I don't have as good as knowledge on some of the plants. What are good to eat, what not...What plants can be used for medicine, and so forth.
A good book that would contain stuff like this, is probably the one over looked item that should be in a survivalists back pack, if they plan on spending any time out....Stuff like Willow tree bark, is what makes asprin. Down in the southwest...aleo verde plants are used for many, many remedies...especially burns.
WuzzFuzz
My Y2K prep consisted of laying in a few extra lbs of my favorite powders, a bag of shot and some extra primers and percussion caps. That and I bought a hand pump for our well, which is only 25' and a few extra gallons of chlorine. Still have tghe pump so I don't worry about water.
I have an acquaintance who lived through the civil war in Sarajevo. he once commented that if he had it to do all over again he would have take a rock, broke all the windows out of his house and spent the day out front crying and begging. That would have been the best camouflage.
I have an acquaintance who lived through the civil war in Sarajevo. he once commented that if he had it to do all over again he would have take a rock, broke all the windows out of his house and spent the day out front crying and begging. That would have been the best camouflage.
G.T. Smith
US Veteran
I do!
peace,
gordon
On 9-11 I was welding away for a defense contractor. The news traveled throughout the plant and then we were sent home due to a bomb threat. I did not have a firearm in my car and felt kind of naked on the trip (25 Miles), home. It will not happen again. Didn't like that feeling. Always have some type of firearm handy while driving.
peace,
gordon
Well now, a person has to think ahead.....Right now it's apple picking time. So unless a person has a press, just go to the local apple orchard, if you have one close, and get some good fresh apple cider...Several gallons would be good. Take those home, and begin your making of some hard cider for the winter months, because to make some good stuff for November and December, you're going to need to start now.
It's sort of time consuming to make, is why it's not made at home much any more. But, IMO it's easier to make than wine, or especially beer. But it tastes good, and is good for you...Hic!!!!
It ain't all work and no play you know, even in a bug out or survivalist situation.
Oh, I guess your better have a pardner to stand guard, while you fall off into slumber land!!!!!!!
WuzzFuzz
It's sort of time consuming to make, is why it's not made at home much any more. But, IMO it's easier to make than wine, or especially beer. But it tastes good, and is good for you...Hic!!!!
It ain't all work and no play you know, even in a bug out or survivalist situation.
Oh, I guess your better have a pardner to stand guard, while you fall off into slumber land!!!!!!!
WuzzFuzz
