Fury! The last Tiger.

[kaaskop49]

Attn: Harley Fan, Good show going with your Dad to the reunions. Admirable.

Attn: Will Carry, OP, Thanks for the heads-up on the Tiger. On one of the TV promos, I swore I saw that T-34 mock-up of the Tiger from Kelly's Heroes and Saving Private Ryan. I could be mistaken. Can someone help here?

What a thread!

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[Will Carry]

Attn: Harley Fan, Good show going with your Dad to the reunions. Admirable.

Attn: Will Carry, OP, Thanks for the heads-up on the Tiger. On one of the TV promos, I swore I saw that T-34 mock-up of the Tiger from Kelly's Heroes and Saving Private Ryan. I could be mistaken. Can someone help here?

What a thread!

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

I didn't know that! Thanks for the info. I know there is supposed to be a functional King Tiger in a museum in France and some Russians have built a replica of a Tiger that runs.
The French took some Panzers after the war to establish an armored corps but I think they used Panzer Vs.

 

[the ringo kid]

Group Von Luck......he pulled out his pistol and pointed it at the head of the commander of the 88mm AA battery. "You can be a dead Luftwaffe AA gunner, or a hero of the Reich!" This quote from the book Panzer Commander written by Hans Von Luck (with a ghost writer's help).
This happened during Operation Goodwood where Hans gathered a rag tag group of 88mm AA guns and Tiger tanks after the allies carpet bombed a swath through German lines. Hans stopped the British break through. He was captured outside Berlin trying to fight his way to American lines. The Soviets kept him for ten years. He kept himself alive by building houses for communist party members. He was found working at a hotel in in West Germany, in the 1960s, where a historian recognized his name. They wrote the book.

Hans von Luck's Knights Cross is still missing too. After the war--he had a wooden box that he kept that a fellow PW gave to him while in captivity. The box had a secret compartment and von Luck kept his KC in it. Well, after the war--he had an apt and I think had gone out looking for work?came back and discovered someone broke in his place--took that box and most likely never discovered his Knights Cross.

BTW--Erich Topps golden presentation dagger (given to him by either Adm Raeder or Adm Donitz?) and his decorations--are also still missing.

 

[the ringo kid]

Attn: Harley Fan, Good show going with your Dad to the reunions. Admirable.

Attn: Will Carry, OP, Thanks for the heads-up on the Tiger. On one of the TV promos, I swore I saw that T-34 mock-up of the Tiger from Kelly's Heroes and Saving Private Ryan. I could be mistaken. Can someone help here?

What a thread!

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

Its possible but--i doubt it. The SPR "Tiger" resides at the Bovington Tank Museum.My good friend Paul--who lives in Durham (London) sent me a nice pic of it years ago. I dont know if its on any of my photo bucket accounts but-if so? ill try getting it posted her. It also has a sign in front of it saying it was the Tiger used in SPR.

 

[Cpo1944]

My Dad was a machine gunner in the 3RD inf div- the same outfit as Audi Murphy- He did not care for "tankers". When ever they encountered a difficult road block or fire fight, the tanks pulled back and the call was "Infantry up front"! He always like to say " do you know why infantry men have to be smarter than tankers? ans. Because there`s nothing between their chest and German bullet , but a GI shirt"! I am looking forward to the movie too.

 

[Engineer1911]

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/browse.php?s=0&t=2&u=10&era=5,6

Here is a link that has scale models of lots of stuff, this one is the TANKS section. I have spent several hours thinking the 'Little Boy' in me wants to build some models: Atomic Cannon, German 88 mm gun, and half-track that towed it.

Second thought was "This gets expensive" and "Where do I put them?" Third thought, "Go to the range and shoot something you already own!"

 

[GatorFarmer]

If you have an older PC laying around, seek out the classic armor game "Steel Panthers World at War". I spent over a decade playing it.

The Tiger apparently was more manueverable than many give it credit for, some sources claim it had better cross country mobility than pre "easy eight" Sermans.

The French put the Panther tank s 75/L70 gun into the first of the Amx13 light tanks. They also used it to upgun some Shermans, as well as just making use directly of some Panthers post war. Some of those upgunned Shermans ended up in Israeli hands.

 

[Cyrano]

I know there is supposed to be a functional King Tiger in a museum in France .

If so, it is probably in the Musée des Blindées at Saumur, France. That's their Armor Museum and former Cavalry HQ.

 

[dswancutt]

The Panther was considered by many to be the best tank in the world into the 1950's. Overall it was a better all-around tank than the Tiger or that behemoth King Tiger.

As much as I hate to say this, the Russian T-34 was the best tank of the war. The appearance of the t-34 forced the creation of the Panther. The T-34 was simple to maintain, well armed and introduced the concept of sloped armor. The Tiger, Panther, King Tigers where heavy, complex, and notoriously unreliable. I know the tiger and king tiger required a special set of narrow tracks just to transport by train.

I have read that the Panzer IV was he the backbone of German Panzer divisions. Throughout it life it was continuously upgraded and up gunned (50mm to the potent 75mm). It was also the base for many of the German mobile artillery and tank destroyers.

 

[the ringo kid]

Speaking of Fury, did anyone notice that one of the crew is either or--the guy who played one of the two deputy sheriffs in the first 3 seasons of: The Walking Dead.. Ive only seen a quick second glimpse of him but--to me--if he isnt (Shane) he sure reminds me of him.

 

[Aguila9]

Speaking of Fury, did anyone notice that one of the crew is either or--the guy who played one of the two deputy sheriffs in the first 3 seasons of: The Walking Dead.. Ive only seen a quick second glimpse of him but--to me--if he isnt (Shane) he sure reminds me of him.

Yes, its him. His name is Berenthal orr something.

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[Arik]

Speaking of Fury, did anyone notice that one of the crew is either or--the guy who played one of the two deputy sheriffs in the first 3 seasons of: The Walking Dead.. Ive only seen a quick second glimpse of him but--to me--if he isnt (Shane) he sure reminds me of him.

Yes and the Transformers guy too

 

[Arik]

As much as I hate to say this, the Russian T-34 was the best tank of the war. The appearance of the t-34 forced the creation of the Panther. The T-34 was simple to maintain, well armed and introduced the concept of sloped armor. The Tiger, Panther, King Tigers where heavy, complex, and notoriously unreliable. I know the tiger and king tiger required a special set of narrow tracks just to transport by train.

I have read that the Panzer IV was he the backbone of German Panzer divisions. Throughout it life it was continuously upgraded and up gunned (50mm to the potent 75mm). It was also the base for many of the German mobile artillery and tank destroyers.

Have you guys ever seen the German mouse tank? 200 tons. 128mm main gun and a 75mm secondary.

 

[Sconnie]

If you have an older PC laying around, seek out the classic armor game "Steel Panthers World at War". I spent over a decade playing it.

A bit off topic but I loved that game. My older brother used to play a game called 1944 (I think) with miniatures and Steel Panthers was just like it without all of the model making. Not sure if my old Win 98 PC would fire up anymore but I should try it for Steel Panthers alone.

Fury does look like a must go for me too. I had not seen the Tiger tank footage until now. I too always thought the Panther was a better tank but that is mostly because it just looked better to me.

 

[the ringo kid]

Yes, its him. His name is Berenthal orr something.

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Mucho gracias. I couldnt think of his name for the life of me. I liked him in the Walking Dead--and hated that they made him"turn."

 

[the ringo kid]

Yes and the Transformers guy too

I havent seen but part to a transformer movie--I dont know which one? Is he a good or a badguy in it?

 

[Arik]

I havent seen but part to a transformer movie--I dont know which one? Is he a good or a badguy in it?

The main kid. Shia Top left

2nd top right....in the hat is the guy who played in Shooter with Wahlberg

 

[kaaskop49]

If you have an older PC laying around, seek out the classic armor game "Steel Panthers World at War". I spent over a decade playing it.

The Tiger apparently was more manueverable than many give it credit for, some sources claim it had better cross country mobility than pre "easy eight" Sermans.

The French put the Panther tank s 75/L70 gun into the first of the Amx13 light tanks. They also used it to upgun some Shermans, as well as just making use directly of some Panthers post war. Some of those upgunned Shermans ended up in Israeli hands.

GatorFarmer, you're a savvy hombre! The Tiger I had very responsive steering: a wheel, not the track braking levers of other tanks. It could turn on its axis just by turning the steering wheel, no forward motion needed. Right after the war, U.S. testers of the Panther found it to be as agile as the light M-24 Chaffee, remarkable, given it's recognized engine and transmission shortcomings.

You are correct as to the Panther's gun: a tank-killing gun pure and simple. Tests at Aberdeen PG in 1946 showed MOA accuracy out to 1,000 yds and the gunner did not have to correct for elevation until past 2,000 yds.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[mac2]

Have you guys ever seen the German mouse tank? 200 tons. 128mm main gun and a 75mm secondary.

Think it was nearer 100 tons. There's one in the Russian Kubinka tank museum, along with a 600mm Karl mortar:

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(The link does work).

Looks like quite a place to visit...

 

[V1 Rotate]

GatorFarmer, you're a savvy hombre! The Tiger I had very responsive steering: a wheel, not the track braking levers of other tanks. It could turn on its axis just by turning the steering wheel, no forward motion needed. Right after the war, U.S. testers of the Panther found it to be as agile as the light M-24 Chaffee, remarkable, given it's recognized engine and transmission shortcomings.

You are correct as to the Panther's gun: a tank-killing gun pure and simple. Tests at Aberdeen PG in 1946 showed MOA accuracy out to 1,000 yds and the gunner did not have to correct for elevation until past 2,000 yds.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

During the war, the 88 was so accurate and flat shooting that the Germans literally used it as a sniper rifle, sort of like a giant Barrett .50, to take out high value targets at long range. Our military didn't believe this when they heard it until it was confirmed and demonstrated by German gun crews after the war. Bill S